I quoted the following verse yesterday to show how Calvin in panel 3 “comes up short” in comparison with God.
“For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him…” II Chronicles 16:9a
khpage brought up a verse in a different context below:
Puddleglum - “since all have sinned and come short of the glory of God” perhaps God is looking for someone other than any of us…
If I didn’t know better, I might think that you were trying to trip me up, but I think you are either just being facetious or are looking for a real resolution to an apparent contradiction.
In my quoted verse, the key word is “perfect”. In this context (verses 1-10), It means upright and sincere, but in a general sense and at this particular time. King Asa came up short. In the verse you quoted, it indicates the state or condition of all humans compared to God. None of us is “perfect” because we are all sinners.
I endeavored to be as “brief and pithy” as possible. I’m open to further discussion if my response is insufficient.
“…but there was no joy in Mudville…Mighty Calvin had struck out…” Paraphrasing, of course, but I can see Hobbes hanging his head low, and Calvin slinking back to the dugout.
sadness
I just saw a photo taken by a space telescope of the milky way. in my latest issue of Astronomy.
Somehow, someway, someone had identified a small (very small) yellow dot. Insignificant in comparison to the remaining part of the photo. Which, incidentally, was only several arc degrees in area, which tells how large the Milky
Way really is.
This yellow dot was our solar system! Not just earth,mind you,but our entire solar system! How insignificant we truly are! Surely, we exist not because of any divine intervention but purely as a freak of nature! That’s right Puddleglum2, a freak of nature! Striving to be perfect to appease a divine creator is rather fruitless since he(she or it) never existed in the first place.
twypsi: Do you remember the Russian Cosmonaut, who was asked if he saw God when he was in orbit? He said he saw nothing, there was no God. After John Glen made his first flight, he was asked the same thing, his answer; “I saw God everywhere I looked.” You may look at our position in the Milky Way and see our existance as a freak of nature, but others will look at it and see it as proof of divine intervention.
I am new here to commenting but I LOVE to read the Calvin/Hobbes everyday and some of the comments. As much as I endorse my religion (Mormon), there is a time and place for everything. I do NOT believe this forumn should start religion debates or spam ads. It taints the fun of the comic with touchy issues that do not apply.
Calvin must have hit it straight up ,still hard to catch.
The look on his face when he figures out hes out is priceless .
If you can see a religious meaning in this you and your religion cant understand the book your reading from.
It’s not a debate until the detractors start. It’s a discussion. I am trying to ignore the detractors, but it is sometimes too hard.
@Puddleglum2,
You probably know this already, but ‘perfect’ in many places means ‘mature’, as opposed to ‘without flaw’. Which confuses a lot people in verses like Matt. 5:48 and Phil. 3:15.
dahawk: I agree with you there! I choose to be a believer because the consequences of being a non-believer (if everything I was ever taught as a child are anywhere near true) are pretty frightening indeed!
I can relate all too well to this cartoon, I spent many years playing by myself like Calvin, even though I had a sibling, she preferred to go elsewhere and we didn’t stay together all that much. All due to the efforts of a parent to divide us, in large measure at least. So much for being an ACOA…even in small ways it stays with you for a lifetime. I wish Calvin had more kids his age he could relate to to play with…..
For some of us, our faith is our life. Other’s discuss their lives (vacations, recipes, memories, personal history, etc.) here, and I do not see where this is any different. You do not have to participate in our discussion. If we were proselytizing, I would understand your objection. We view life through the lens of our faith. This is who we are. Please stop insisting that we leave an essential part of ourselves at the door. That is asking us to take our faith out of our lives.
Being an only child growing up I can relate to the game Calvin. Glad I had alot of neighbor boys to play with and three cousins but there are those alone days!
@thebird55… I agree completely. If people want to only discuss the comic, then I would be completely okay with not discussing my relationship with God….
Let’s be realistic here… we can’t JUST discuss the comics, because our life experiences make our discussions… There are times I discuss my friendship with my best friend Sarah in and amidst the conversation about Calvin and Hobbes, but no one says anything about that, so why would they do the same when someone mentions God?
Watch the aardvark comments… some of my best friends are aardvarks. Keep up the anit-aardvark rhetoric and I’m gonna have to flag YOU.
Y’all can discuss whatever you want except your online store and what you got for sale ;) I’m ironically both very religious and very anti-church at the same time, extolling the virtues of one religion being right or wrong kinda bugs me, mostly because no matter what label you affix to yourself, the message of God is the same, so why all the argument? My church is the church of “be one of the good guys”, and no religion I’ve ever seen teaches anything different.
Most of what I see for religious discussion on here is “church neutral” and I for one don’t really see the reason to worry about it. I don’t see people trying to “convert” anyone to a different way of thinking or anything… more just how the topic of the day relates to religion in general. I for one thinkd it’s pretty benign ;)
margueritem over 14 years ago
LOL!
SWEETBILL over 14 years ago
GM earlybird specials
Calvin, LOV IT MADE MY SAT> of course Hobbs isn’t there to see it
mike.firesmith over 14 years ago
**Good morning Marg! Good morning Fran and Kizzzy! Good Morning L’Wolf! Good Morning Grog!**
How’s the face marg? Makes a bleeep poor airbag, huh?
rentier over 14 years ago
Marg is back again! Hallo! I don’t understand anything about cricket!
Sylvannis over 14 years ago
HaHaHa poor calvin…
margueritem over 14 years ago
The face is hurting, Mike. Time for a pain pill.
Ooops! Premium Member over 14 years ago
Yay! Oooops, oh no!
dataweaver over 14 years ago
Sometimes, you just can’t win…
GreatEighthSin over 14 years ago
Hmm.. get better at that, and you might just be able to scratch a little profit on the streets, lol.
Rakkav over 14 years ago
Hi, marg! Welcome back!
Sandfan over 14 years ago
A Pyrrhic victory.
scootch511 over 14 years ago
As an only child I can so relate to this.
whims over 14 years ago
I wonder what solitaire dodgeball would look like?
GROG Premium Member over 14 years ago
Maybe you should have tried to hit it a little farther, Calvin.
Good to see you back at the top of the comments, Marg!
Good Morning, Marg, Mike & ♠Lonewolf♠
Puddleglum2 over 14 years ago
I quoted the following verse yesterday to show how Calvin in panel 3 “comes up short” in comparison with God. “For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him…” II Chronicles 16:9a khpage brought up a verse in a different context below: Puddleglum - “since all have sinned and come short of the glory of God” perhaps God is looking for someone other than any of us… If I didn’t know better, I might think that you were trying to trip me up, but I think you are either just being facetious or are looking for a real resolution to an apparent contradiction. In my quoted verse, the key word is “perfect”. In this context (verses 1-10), It means upright and sincere, but in a general sense and at this particular time. King Asa came up short. In the verse you quoted, it indicates the state or condition of all humans compared to God. None of us is “perfect” because we are all sinners. I endeavored to be as “brief and pithy” as possible. I’m open to further discussion if my response is insufficient.
larney45 over 14 years ago
“…but there was no joy in Mudville…Mighty Calvin had struck out…” Paraphrasing, of course, but I can see Hobbes hanging his head low, and Calvin slinking back to the dugout. sadness
lewisbower over 14 years ago
Page 352, paragraph 4 of the Calvinball handbook, clearly shows that this is a home run as revised 15 seconds ago. PLAY BALL!
thegreatack over 14 years ago
The price of success…
joefish25 over 14 years ago
My cousin Anthony is “out” too
nuqjatlh over 14 years ago
I will flag two things, spam and religion. Both are trying to sell me something I don’t want in my morning comics.
Ray_C over 14 years ago
I didn’t see a sales pitch on religion, nuglath, just a discussion, just part of the normal give and take we see here every day.
mike.firesmith over 14 years ago
I always flag aardvarks.
It seems to be working.
twj0729 over 14 years ago
I just saw a photo taken by a space telescope of the milky way. in my latest issue of Astronomy. Somehow, someway, someone had identified a small (very small) yellow dot. Insignificant in comparison to the remaining part of the photo. Which, incidentally, was only several arc degrees in area, which tells how large the Milky Way really is. This yellow dot was our solar system! Not just earth,mind you,but our entire solar system! How insignificant we truly are! Surely, we exist not because of any divine intervention but purely as a freak of nature! That’s right Puddleglum2, a freak of nature! Striving to be perfect to appease a divine creator is rather fruitless since he(she or it) never existed in the first place.
gjsjr41 over 14 years ago
Welcome back Marg. Hope your injuries heal quickly.
thirdguy over 14 years ago
twypsi: Do you remember the Russian Cosmonaut, who was asked if he saw God when he was in orbit? He said he saw nothing, there was no God. After John Glen made his first flight, he was asked the same thing, his answer; “I saw God everywhere I looked.” You may look at our position in the Milky Way and see our existance as a freak of nature, but others will look at it and see it as proof of divine intervention.
Welcome back Marg!!
lazygrazer over 14 years ago
It’s hard to celebrate self-defeat.
And that goes for religious pettifoggers too.
George Arnold over 14 years ago
Act first - think later.
Jolynn191978 over 14 years ago
I am new here to commenting but I LOVE to read the Calvin/Hobbes everyday and some of the comments. As much as I endorse my religion (Mormon), there is a time and place for everything. I do NOT believe this forumn should start religion debates or spam ads. It taints the fun of the comic with touchy issues that do not apply.
billdi Premium Member over 14 years ago
well said jolynn
twistedhumor over 14 years ago
I think this shows Calvin’s motivation, not only as a batter,but also as a fielder, in-spite of “outing” himself.
anorok2 over 14 years ago
I agree, Jolynn, 1000%!
COWBOY7 over 14 years ago
Hi Marg! Welcome back!
Gm, Marg, Mike, Grog & Fran!
rjvjelly over 14 years ago
my life in a nutshell
ratlum over 14 years ago
Calvin must have hit it straight up ,still hard to catch. The look on his face when he figures out hes out is priceless . If you can see a religious meaning in this you and your religion cant understand the book your reading from.
alviebird over 14 years ago
@jolynn191978,
It’s not a debate until the detractors start. It’s a discussion. I am trying to ignore the detractors, but it is sometimes too hard.
@Puddleglum2,
You probably know this already, but ‘perfect’ in many places means ‘mature’, as opposed to ‘without flaw’. Which confuses a lot people in verses like Matt. 5:48 and Phil. 3:15.
dahawk over 14 years ago
I had rather take the chance of believing and being wrong than not believing and being wrong.
dradk over 14 years ago
god, such lengthy discussions! the final punch line was just awesome. no other word. period.
Gretchen's Mom over 14 years ago
dahawk: I agree with you there! I choose to be a believer because the consequences of being a non-believer (if everything I was ever taught as a child are anywhere near true) are pretty frightening indeed!
rotts over 14 years ago
spammerflaggen!
gofinsc over 14 years ago
Only if you believe them.
Save it for Sunday “B.C.“‘s.
Jolynn191978 over 14 years ago
The bird55==
Except there are plenty of places on the internet to “discuss” religion. Here is not a good place for it. Let us just enjoy the comic and the laughs.
ladywolf17 over 14 years ago
Ladies and Gentlemen! What we have here is Calvin, The world’s greatest All-Star baseball fielder.
dmanc33 over 14 years ago
Well said Jolynn!
ladywolf17 over 14 years ago
Good to see you back Marg. :-)
lin4869 over 14 years ago
Welcome, Jolynn!
Dirty Dragon over 14 years ago
He is the Greatest! Who woulda thought that he could pitch like that!
khpage over 14 years ago
I can relate all too well to this cartoon, I spent many years playing by myself like Calvin, even though I had a sibling, she preferred to go elsewhere and we didn’t stay together all that much. All due to the efforts of a parent to divide us, in large measure at least. So much for being an ACOA…even in small ways it stays with you for a lifetime. I wish Calvin had more kids his age he could relate to to play with…..
ladywolf17 over 14 years ago
Adult Children Of Alcoholics, If I looked it up right.
rumplesnitz over 14 years ago
I’ve had those days…
alviebird over 14 years ago
@Jolynn191978, and others,
For some of us, our faith is our life. Other’s discuss their lives (vacations, recipes, memories, personal history, etc.) here, and I do not see where this is any different. You do not have to participate in our discussion. If we were proselytizing, I would understand your objection. We view life through the lens of our faith. This is who we are. Please stop insisting that we leave an essential part of ourselves at the door. That is asking us to take our faith out of our lives.
Not gonna happen.
quanticobaby over 14 years ago
Calvin, I know the feeling. And to all a good night.
Dino-1 over 14 years ago
Being an only child growing up I can relate to the game Calvin. Glad I had alot of neighbor boys to play with and three cousins but there are those alone days!
Marg: Glad to see you’re doing better!
sanjumodi over 14 years ago
Am new here, love reading the comments too! wish you could squeeze the comments so that we could read more on one page
LeslieAnne over 14 years ago
@thebird55… I agree completely. If people want to only discuss the comic, then I would be completely okay with not discussing my relationship with God….
Let’s be realistic here… we can’t JUST discuss the comics, because our life experiences make our discussions… There are times I discuss my friendship with my best friend Sarah in and amidst the conversation about Calvin and Hobbes, but no one says anything about that, so why would they do the same when someone mentions God?
aelwero over 14 years ago
@firesmith-
Watch the aardvark comments… some of my best friends are aardvarks. Keep up the anit-aardvark rhetoric and I’m gonna have to flag YOU.
Y’all can discuss whatever you want except your online store and what you got for sale ;) I’m ironically both very religious and very anti-church at the same time, extolling the virtues of one religion being right or wrong kinda bugs me, mostly because no matter what label you affix to yourself, the message of God is the same, so why all the argument? My church is the church of “be one of the good guys”, and no religion I’ve ever seen teaches anything different.
Most of what I see for religious discussion on here is “church neutral” and I for one don’t really see the reason to worry about it. I don’t see people trying to “convert” anyone to a different way of thinking or anything… more just how the topic of the day relates to religion in general. I for one thinkd it’s pretty benign ;)
primalcoach over 10 years ago
Calvin beat himself.