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Hey letâs look at the allegory in Lioâs action. This can happen at any lab anywhere in the world and spark another crazy virus outbreak like oink-itis. MMmmMmMmMMMm pig slop.
Now Iâll start by saying - everyone deserves some hits and misses â I love Lio, but this one missed the mark. Considering that many people got very sick and that some died, this one isnât funny. One of the few that Iâve found so far on Lio though that I did not enjoy, so Iâll just pass on this one.
If I may say, everyone has their own taste in what is funny or not, but in regards to the H1N1: at this point there have been relatively few deaths world wide attributable to H1N1, indeed one might as well go on to lambaste any cartoon that shows a traffic accident, or someone with the regular flu because both have caused more death, pain and suffering in the same time-frame.
Mexico does continue to be the likely location of the orginal outbreak as per the CDC
Ciji3 and Co.;
While I understand where youâre coming from, the hype about âswine fluâ is really just thatâhype. This is flu season, and a few people always die in flu season. While this isnât my favorite comic of his, I think itâs something that can amuse.
NowâDoes this mean Lio got the swine flu first?
13,000 people died of the regular flu virus this winter. That didnât stop cartoons and sit-coms from depicting people with the flu. Was that any less âwrongâ? The only reason this is such a huge issue is because of the the media frenzy. And it looks like that has run its course. This strip already feels dated to me. And I wasnât making fun of people dyingâŠI thought it might be humorous to show such a world-wide panic at its humble beginnings.
Mark keep up the wonderful work. I agree with you and Knight, the real problem with the H1N1 is the media. Why do we never hear about the long standing pandemic of the common cold?
* while substantial uncertainty remains, clinical severity appears less than that seen in 1918 but comparable with that seen in 1957⊠Transmissibility is therefore substantially higher than seasonal flu, and comparable with lower estimates of R0 obtained from previous influenza pandemics⊠The secondary attack rate of seasonal influenza ranges from 5% to 15%. Current estimates of the secondary attack rate of H1N1 range from 22% to 33%.*
All subject to big margins of error, till firmer data is inputed.
Iâm not going to live in fear of H1N1, but the truth is that we really will not know till the fall flu season is underway.
Is statistical more easy died in a car chase or in a fly accident that for the flu H1N1. The media scary people a lot for the pharmaceutic industry finances blue numbers.
It started in San Diego but Doctors thought it was the regular flu than in Mexico the kid got the swine flu and like liburals stared this media frenzy about H1N1 and the only reason in mexico people got it so fast is that in lot of public places theres not a lot of cleaness and people that got offend by this comic ITS JUST A COMIC TRYING TO PUT THAT LIO THATS CRAZY MADE THE H1M1 FLU VIRES
I donât begrudge anyone their comments, knew mine would draw a few. I truly enjoy Lio, and have recommended it to many others and will continue to do so. Just didnât enjoy this particular one â too close to reality and I sort of prefer the fantasy elements.
did like jestrfylâs comment -
Jestrfyl says:
All we need is Michael Crichtonâs novel lying open and the table and the image would be complete.
Fab3 posted The Science Magazine excerpt: good catch. And it is true that thousands die from ordinary flu each year. However âŠ
âclinical severity appears less than that seen in 1918â
The 1918 flu had three occurrences. The second wave was the worldwide killer.
Charlie wrote: âH1N1 kills mostly younger people, and leaves alone people over 30.â
Not quite. Ordinary flu kills mostly those with weak or underdeveloped respiratory systems: The elderly and infants, as expected. The 1918 pandemic attacked many but killed more of those in the âprime of lifeâ group- like ours now.
Good news: In 1918 much of viral science was in its infancy; in fact, that pandemic spurred much of the biological science we take for granted today.
Bad news: Todayâs medical folks are more worried about a repeat of 1918 because the world is so much smaller; the medicine may be better but will still lag behind the fluâs ability to move. As Science said, âTransmissibility is therefore substantially higher than seasonal fluâ; cf. secondary attack rate comparison.
There is some illustrative dark humor involved with the 1918 second wave: Soon there werenât enough healthy people in many areas to take care of the sick. Soon after, there werenât enough living to bury the dead.
And there is another exacerbating factor, in operation continuously before and since 1918.
âCrosby [below] writes: âAll the physicians of 1918 were participants in the greatest failure of medical science in the twentieth century or, if absolute numbers of dead are the measure, of all time.â Lest the blame be placed entirely on the medical profession, Barry [below] makes this point: âBack then scientists fully comprehended the threatâs magnitude, knew how to cure many secondary bacterial pneumonias, and gave public-health advice that would have saved tens of thousands of American lives. Politicians ignored that advice.ââ
That deadly parlay is from an Awake magazine article of 2005, âThe Worst Plague in Historyâ
References:
The Great Influenza, John M. Barry, Viking 2004
Americaâs Forgotten Pandemic: The Influenza of 1918, Alfred W. Crosby, Cambridge U. Press, 1989
Like Ciji3, I plotz over LiĆ. But also like Ciji3, I didnât laugh at this one. And if the second wave of flu is like 1918âs, a similar strip is likely to be censored by Govât. (Look it up.)
margueritem almost 16 years ago
So, the truth is revealed⊠A careless bump with your tush, and look what happens.
i_am_the_jam almost 16 years ago
Donât laugh, this just COULD have happenedâŠ
i_am_the_jam almost 16 years ago
No, it started in Texas
ejcapulet almost 16 years ago
Great - so we have Lioâs buns to blame.
cleokaya almost 16 years ago
Okay we know what is in the first jar, but Iâm dreading whatâs in the rest of those containers.
lonewolf77 almost 16 years ago
Hey letâs look at the allegory in Lioâs action. This can happen at any lab anywhere in the world and spark another crazy virus outbreak like oink-itis. MMmmMmMmMMMm pig slop.
carmy almost 16 years ago
How did Lio manage to get some swine in that jar?
Smiley Rmom almost 16 years ago
I just had to change my avatar because of this. It is now a picture of a swine flu victim - and we know who gave it to him.
Ciji3 almost 16 years ago
Now Iâll start by saying - everyone deserves some hits and misses â I love Lio, but this one missed the mark. Considering that many people got very sick and that some died, this one isnât funny. One of the few that Iâve found so far on Lio though that I did not enjoy, so Iâll just pass on this one.
brennanmike511 almost 16 years ago
I agree. Itâs one thing to be macabre and dark, itâs another thing to laugh at someone elseâs misery.
And Lio is my favorite comic. And I know that Mark needs to push the boundaries, but this was too far.
alyssaanne007 almost 16 years ago
ha! i MADE A SLIDE SHOW BOUT THAT!!!!!!
peterbiltman1980 almost 16 years ago
ciji3 & brennanmike511.
You two need to get a life, itâs a bleeep comic strip, either laugh at it or shut the he?? up.
edgeways almost 16 years ago
If I may say, everyone has their own taste in what is funny or not, but in regards to the H1N1: at this point there have been relatively few deaths world wide attributable to H1N1, indeed one might as well go on to lambaste any cartoon that shows a traffic accident, or someone with the regular flu because both have caused more death, pain and suffering in the same time-frame.
Mexico does continue to be the likely location of the orginal outbreak as per the CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm58d0430a2.htm
Digital Frog almost 16 years ago
LOL RRAMom!
Smiley Rmom almost 16 years ago
Iâm glad you liked it DigitalFrog, because I thought of you when I first saw this picture.
sensrule92 almost 16 years ago
LiĆ! How could you?!
Digital Frog almost 16 years ago
I predict that this cartoon strip is about to go viral!
Benedick almost 16 years ago
Ciji3 and Co.; While I understand where youâre coming from, the hype about âswine fluâ is really just thatâhype. This is flu season, and a few people always die in flu season. While this isnât my favorite comic of his, I think itâs something that can amuse. NowâDoes this mean Lio got the swine flu first?
mtatulli Premium Member almost 16 years ago
13,000 people died of the regular flu virus this winter. That didnât stop cartoons and sit-coms from depicting people with the flu. Was that any less âwrongâ? The only reason this is such a huge issue is because of the the media frenzy. And it looks like that has run its course. This strip already feels dated to me. And I wasnât making fun of people dyingâŠI thought it might be humorous to show such a world-wide panic at its humble beginnings.
darwin4139 almost 16 years ago
People overreacted to AH1N1
Digital Frog almost 16 years ago
Mark keep up the wonderful work. I agree with you and Knight, the real problem with the H1N1 is the media. Why do we never hear about the long standing pandemic of the common cold?
FAB3 almost 16 years ago
Published this week in âScienceâ:
* while substantial uncertainty remains, clinical severity appears less than that seen in 1918 but comparable with that seen in 1957⊠Transmissibility is therefore substantially higher than seasonal flu, and comparable with lower estimates of R0 obtained from previous influenza pandemics⊠The secondary attack rate of seasonal influenza ranges from 5% to 15%. Current estimates of the secondary attack rate of H1N1 range from 22% to 33%.*
All subject to big margins of error, till firmer data is inputed.
Iâm not going to live in fear of H1N1, but the truth is that we really will not know till the fall flu season is underway.
MotherOfMoses almost 16 years ago
BLAME IT ON LIO!
VancouverRaven almost 16 years ago
I knew it!
caucel almost 16 years ago
Nice Mark ;)
Is statistical more easy died in a car chase or in a fly accident that for the flu H1N1. The media scary people a lot for the pharmaceutic industry finances blue numbers.
Just a business like ever! ; )
mtatulli Premium Member almost 16 years ago
Thanks, caucel, I couldnât have said it better myself.
lilcrazy117 almost 16 years ago
It started in San Diego but Doctors thought it was the regular flu than in Mexico the kid got the swine flu and like liburals stared this media frenzy about H1N1 and the only reason in mexico people got it so fast is that in lot of public places theres not a lot of cleaness and people that got offend by this comic ITS JUST A COMIC TRYING TO PUT THAT LIO THATS CRAZY MADE THE H1M1 FLU VIRES
Daviddeer almost 16 years ago
I Love people who debate over a comic strip. Now I know Iâm not the only that doesnât have a life.
jestrfyl almost 16 years ago
All we need is Michael Crichtonâs novel lying open and the table and the image would be complete.
Ciji3 almost 16 years ago
I donât begrudge anyone their comments, knew mine would draw a few. I truly enjoy Lio, and have recommended it to many others and will continue to do so. Just didnât enjoy this particular one â too close to reality and I sort of prefer the fantasy elements.
did like jestrfylâs comment - Jestrfyl says:
All we need is Michael Crichtonâs novel lying open and the table and the image would be complete.
noprem almost 16 years ago
Fab3 posted The Science Magazine excerpt: good catch. And it is true that thousands die from ordinary flu each year. However âŠ
âclinical severity appears less than that seen in 1918â The 1918 flu had three occurrences. The second wave was the worldwide killer.
Charlie wrote: âH1N1 kills mostly younger people, and leaves alone people over 30.â Not quite. Ordinary flu kills mostly those with weak or underdeveloped respiratory systems: The elderly and infants, as expected. The 1918 pandemic attacked many but killed more of those in the âprime of lifeâ group- like ours now.
Good news: In 1918 much of viral science was in its infancy; in fact, that pandemic spurred much of the biological science we take for granted today. Bad news: Todayâs medical folks are more worried about a repeat of 1918 because the world is so much smaller; the medicine may be better but will still lag behind the fluâs ability to move. As Science said, âTransmissibility is therefore substantially higher than seasonal fluâ; cf. secondary attack rate comparison.
The significant financial cost has been covered quite well in the press IMO: billions of USD so far. This, in a world that is already fighting several military wars on several fronts AND dealing with a 1933-manquĂ© ârecessionâ AND where a large continent is losing a medical war with HIV/AIDS ⊠and like that.
There is some illustrative dark humor involved with the 1918 second wave: Soon there werenât enough healthy people in many areas to take care of the sick. Soon after, there werenât enough living to bury the dead.
And there is another exacerbating factor, in operation continuously before and since 1918. âCrosby [below] writes: âAll the physicians of 1918 were participants in the greatest failure of medical science in the twentieth century or, if absolute numbers of dead are the measure, of all time.â Lest the blame be placed entirely on the medical profession, Barry [below] makes this point: âBack then scientists fully comprehended the threatâs magnitude, knew how to cure many secondary bacterial pneumonias, and gave public-health advice that would have saved tens of thousands of American lives. Politicians ignored that advice.ââ That deadly parlay is from an Awake magazine article of 2005, âThe Worst Plague in Historyâ
References: The Great Influenza, John M. Barry, Viking 2004 Americaâs Forgotten Pandemic: The Influenza of 1918, Alfred W. Crosby, Cambridge U. Press, 1989
Like Ciji3, I plotz over LiĆ. But also like Ciji3, I didnât laugh at this one. And if the second wave of flu is like 1918âs, a similar strip is likely to be censored by Govât. (Look it up.)
Wash them hands, folks. Regards, Doug
diablojack about 15 years ago
Lighten up nopremâŠand stop writing so muchâŠyouâre boring us with your âknowledge.â
laurac5800 over 10 years ago
Whatâs H1N1?