4deerinmyyard, cleokaya: Oh, Calvin will get the F–but he’ll then complain that math is a religion (and complain about it being officially promulgated in schools), a point on which Hobbes will be supportive.
What happens when Calvin finds out that Hobbes instincts are not exactly up-to-the-mark?
Look at the fright Calvin gets in panel 3 when Hobbes mentions imaginary numbers. The ‘i’ always gave me the shivers too. I could never comprehend what place imagination had in the science of mathematics. It might as well have been art.
Those who have studied Gödel’s theorem will have encountered Supernatural Numbers. Gödel showed that the axioms, proofs and theorems of Typographical Number Theory could be mapped to integers. He proved that natural numbers could not produce a true theorem he constructed (involving self reference since the theorems were about numbers - now mapped to theorems). Supernatural numbers were introduced to make these self referential theorems reachable, like Imaginary numbers did for Reals. Of course, the new set of Natural plus Supernatural integers could be Gödelized the same way, so the result stands.
ultraman says:
wouldn’t it be funny, if after all of hobbes’ mathematical gyrations, he still came up with the correct answer?…….
I am sure he will, ultraman
Imaginary numbers are just that, imaginary. Stuart Gatham’s rant just serves to illustrate mankind’s efforts to explain what he can’t; that God is the Creator and there are some things that just can’t BE explained, even with imaginary numbers. BTW I STILL love Hobbes’ “fuzzy math”! <:-)
“I thought Calvin would be quite good with imaginary numbers.
“Isn’t ‘i’ the imaginary number? That’s a letter…now I’m confused.”
g-engineer: you should know by now that mathematicians never have enough numbers (or variables) so they always make up more as they go along… ;)
@JonD17, the 4th one is a mathematician, of which there are two types: those who can count, and those who can’t.
#1 redskins fan says:
“Imaginary numbers are just that, imaginary.”
Yes, but they still work, so they can’t be much more imaginary than, say, -1. Who ever saw -1 dollar, or put it in his or her wallet? (Credit cards don’t count!)
i love Hobbes face in the 2nd and last panels! Calvin should stop using Hobbes “math” and start doing his own homework! btw Calvin the answer is 13 hopefully evryone else posting comments on here does…if they dont…well then…i only have one thing to say to them:…go back 2 school!and if u cant even do math how can u read write and type?
Instead of asking Hobbes for help with his math homework, Calvin needs to ask Spaceman Spiff. I’m sure he has run into various types of math in his travels across the known (and unknown) universe.
I could be wrong, but I think that Stuart Gathman’s hypothoses (sp?) is a bit of a spoof, to prove that nothing from nothing is still nothing. (credits to Billy Preston)
midiranger-yes, just keep all the lollipops away as you’re calculating the problem using imaginary numbers like $-1 in your wallet. In DC, that’s the sure sign of a pickpocket,”Bmonk”! <:-)
Stuart Gathman!!! As punishment for bringing up Gödel in a comment about a comic strip, I hereby hex thee. May all the radiators in your particular corner of hell go “Thrump!”. (My thanks to Mr. Thurber for a particularly apropos quote.)
For clarity and accuracy, I also prefer Mr. Hofstadter’s explanation of Gödel’s theorem to your own, just so you know.
@Stuart, I’d heard of inaccessible cardinals (A poet-mathematician friend claims they are the Cardinals for whom even the Pope doesn’t have phone numbers), but not the supernaturals, nor superreals, etc. Thanks!
Hobbs neglects to tell Calvin of the recent discovery of a previously unknown whole number between five and six. Many of my former students were well aware of the existence of this number and as a result, their answers were often different from mine ;-)
margueritem almost 16 years ago
Yep, Hobbes and I share math skills…
TheSpleen almost 16 years ago
margueritem, I’m unclear. Are you saying both your and Hobbes’ math skills are imaginary or instinctive?
cleokaya almost 16 years ago
I see an “F” in Calvin’s future and a full inquiry into a tiger’s instinct.
margueritem almost 16 years ago
TheSpleen says:
margueritem, I’m unclear. Are you saying both your and Hobbes’ math skills are imaginary or instinctive?
~They’re both non exsistant.
black_knight15_au almost 16 years ago
Reading these comments prove that it really is true - 3 out of every two people are bad at maths….
4deerinmyyard almost 16 years ago
Tiger, tiger, teaching math, Leads Calvin down the garden path. Unnecessary obfuscation Can only hinder education.
(Thought I’d beat Warthog to it, for a change.)
green_engineer almost 16 years ago
I thought Calvin would be quite good with imaginary numbers.
Isn’t ‘i’ the imaginary number? That’s a letter…now I’m confused.
alondra almost 16 years ago
Calvin he’s putting you on and you’re falling for it. Just do your own homework.
prasrinivara almost 16 years ago
4deerinmyyard, cleokaya: Oh, Calvin will get the F–but he’ll then complain that math is a religion (and complain about it being officially promulgated in schools), a point on which Hobbes will be supportive.
Dry and Dusty Premium Member almost 16 years ago
Don’t you just love Hobbes expression in the last panel?
EvilFlo almost 16 years ago
i = square root of -1.
I really like this one… 9+4… calculus…
carmy almost 16 years ago
Oh you proud little Hobbes. You’re a master of thinkology.
BirishB almost 16 years ago
ahhh, grade school. They succeed when so well grounded in the fundamental R’s: readin’. ‘ritin’, and ‘rithmatic …
ultraman almost 16 years ago
wouldn’t it be funny, if after all of hobbes’ mathematical gyrations, he still came up with the correct answer?
grammahotsho almost 16 years ago
Unclear? Clear is my favorite color!
EMandEM almost 16 years ago
What happens when Calvin finds out that Hobbes instincts are not exactly up-to-the-mark? Look at the fright Calvin gets in panel 3 when Hobbes mentions imaginary numbers. The ‘i’ always gave me the shivers too. I could never comprehend what place imagination had in the science of mathematics. It might as well have been art.
Saucy1121 Premium Member almost 16 years ago
BirishB says:
ahhh, grade school. They succeed when so well grounded in the fundamental R’s: readin’. ‘ritin’, and ‘rithmatic …
But not too much on spelling.
allyheartz almost 16 years ago
CALCULUS to figure out 9 + 4. Oh hobbes oh hobbes.
bald almost 16 years ago
calvin is more into life skills rather than school book learning
stuart almost 16 years ago
Those who have studied Gödel’s theorem will have encountered Supernatural Numbers. Gödel showed that the axioms, proofs and theorems of Typographical Number Theory could be mapped to integers. He proved that natural numbers could not produce a true theorem he constructed (involving self reference since the theorems were about numbers - now mapped to theorems). Supernatural numbers were introduced to make these self referential theorems reachable, like Imaginary numbers did for Reals. Of course, the new set of Natural plus Supernatural integers could be Gödelized the same way, so the result stands.
JanLC almost 16 years ago
Where’s Charlie Epps when you need him?
JonD17 almost 16 years ago
margueritem says:
TheSpleen says:
margueritem, I’m unclear. Are you saying both your and Hobbes’ math skills are imaginary or instinctive?
They’re both non exsistant….. Marg, I was thinking they were instinctively imaginary, like mine ;=/
JonD17 almost 16 years ago
BlackKnight15 says: Reading these comments prove that it really is true - 3 out of every two people are bad at maths……… and the 4th one?
JonD17 almost 16 years ago
ultraman says: wouldn’t it be funny, if after all of hobbes’ mathematical gyrations, he still came up with the correct answer?……. I am sure he will, ultraman
TheDOCTOR almost 16 years ago
MISTER WATTERSON:PLEASE COME BACK! WE MISS YOU, CALVIN, HOBBES….and THE INFAMOUS SNOWMEN OF THE INNER PSYCHE.
johnnydoc5 almost 16 years ago
imaginary numbers aren’t all that they are cracked up to be. there is no eleventeen or thirty-twelve, just i.
Silverpearl almost 16 years ago
OOps!! they forgot X!!
Steve_Barker almost 16 years ago
The reality of it all is that everything is imaginary. Do the math. It all adds up.
bleepingdeadalien almost 16 years ago
Tigers are like that…I nominate Hobbes to handle the stimulus package!
briankblough almost 16 years ago
Imaginary numbers are just that, imaginary. Stuart Gatham’s rant just serves to illustrate mankind’s efforts to explain what he can’t; that God is the Creator and there are some things that just can’t BE explained, even with imaginary numbers. BTW I STILL love Hobbes’ “fuzzy math”! <:-)
midiranger almost 16 years ago
bmonk almost 16 years ago
green_engineer says:
“I thought Calvin would be quite good with imaginary numbers.
“Isn’t ‘i’ the imaginary number? That’s a letter…now I’m confused.”
g-engineer: you should know by now that mathematicians never have enough numbers (or variables) so they always make up more as they go along… ;)
@JonD17, the 4th one is a mathematician, of which there are two types: those who can count, and those who can’t.
#1 redskins fan says:
“Imaginary numbers are just that, imaginary.”
Yes, but they still work, so they can’t be much more imaginary than, say, -1. Who ever saw -1 dollar, or put it in his or her wallet? (Credit cards don’t count!)
Northwoodser almost 16 years ago
To Stuart Gathman I can only say “Huh?” To Hobbes, “Right on ”
Wildmustang1262 almost 16 years ago
Sorry, the mathematician is not my subject. I am not very good on the mathematician, anyway. Stuart Gatham’s comment is waaay toooo complicated! HUH?
Radical-Knight almost 16 years ago
I think Hobbs is related to some goober I had as a math teacher when I was in grade school. Made perfect sense then. Huh?
LandriSheppard almost 16 years ago
i love Hobbes face in the 2nd and last panels! Calvin should stop using Hobbes “math” and start doing his own homework! btw Calvin the answer is 13 hopefully evryone else posting comments on here does…if they dont…well then…i only have one thing to say to them:…go back 2 school!and if u cant even do math how can u read write and type?
musicnut1986 almost 16 years ago
Instead of asking Hobbes for help with his math homework, Calvin needs to ask Spaceman Spiff. I’m sure he has run into various types of math in his travels across the known (and unknown) universe.
JonD17 almost 16 years ago
I could be wrong, but I think that Stuart Gathman’s hypothoses (sp?) is a bit of a spoof, to prove that nothing from nothing is still nothing. (credits to Billy Preston)
LandriSheppard almost 16 years ago
TheDoctor(whatever ur name is) i agree!!!!
briankblough almost 16 years ago
midiranger-yes, just keep all the lollipops away as you’re calculating the problem using imaginary numbers like $-1 in your wallet. In DC, that’s the sure sign of a pickpocket,”Bmonk”! <:-)
tirnaaisling almost 16 years ago
It’s a shame that mathematicians who obviously have no imagination had to invent an imaginary number just to show the world that they had some.
Go Hobbes!
tirnaaisling almost 16 years ago
Just to prove that supernatural numbers really do exist, here’s what wikipedia has to say about them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_numbers
Oy oy oy!
ChiehHsia almost 16 years ago
Stuart Gathman!!! As punishment for bringing up Gödel in a comment about a comic strip, I hereby hex thee. May all the radiators in your particular corner of hell go “Thrump!”. (My thanks to Mr. Thurber for a particularly apropos quote.)
For clarity and accuracy, I also prefer Mr. Hofstadter’s explanation of Gödel’s theorem to your own, just so you know.
mark.berte almost 16 years ago
This seems all so irrationally complex, me, I vote for surreal numbers like in Dali’s clocks!
BirishB almost 16 years ago
Numbers don’t lie; but mathematicians and statisticians sure do …
KingTHC almost 16 years ago
Calvin is screwed if Hobbes is his math tutor.
cozila almost 16 years ago
Hobbes’ definitely got a french brain for his maths…
unemandarine almost 16 years ago
margueritem says: Yep, Hobbes and I share math skills…
I believe I too have Hobbes math skills…
Poor Clavin, I don’t think he knows Hobbes is messing with his head.
mrprongs almost 16 years ago
Should be an eleventeen. Fits the already established pattern.
tabbylynn almost 16 years ago
calvins face in the 3rd panel looks like me when they say math. love how hobbes is so smart and proud of himself.
bmonk almost 16 years ago
@Stuart, I’d heard of inaccessible cardinals (A poet-mathematician friend claims they are the Cardinals for whom even the Pope doesn’t have phone numbers), but not the supernaturals, nor superreals, etc. Thanks!
mariolink42 almost 16 years ago
wow hobbes is so smart XD
mwachowski almost 16 years ago
maybe hobbes didn’t go to math school, but it seems that he went to LAW school
riddlewk almost 16 years ago
I think that I finally understand the Economic Stimulus Plan now! Thanks Hobbes!
arunraja almost 16 years ago
eleventeen…funny
ARC
cleopv154 almost 16 years ago
that’s why I never got an A in math!! imaginary numbers!!!! gosh I always forgot about those!!!
saguaro_48 over 15 years ago
Hobbs neglects to tell Calvin of the recent discovery of a previously unknown whole number between five and six. Many of my former students were well aware of the existence of this number and as a result, their answers were often different from mine ;-)
dsbairdks over 15 years ago
Making things complicated
Arch_Angel over 15 years ago
You All know the answer right. The answer is D. :D
dsbairdks over 15 years ago
Making simple things complicated
thebawse2020 over 9 years ago
The square root of -1 is i, which is an imaginary number
suwin.supasathian about 3 years ago
Uh calvin, this is a hint : start with 1 ends with 3