Oh my gosh, I have seen the greatest news about FBOFW. Lynn Johnston is legally allowing people to write Fan Fiction. According to her website, she is going to accept fan fiction writing at fanfiction.net This is huge because as little as five years ago she was threataning to sue people who wanted to write fan fiction about her characters. So if anyone is interested in writing for enjoyment about the Patterson clan, now is the time to do it.
ejcapulet saidMine has learned that “no” means “no” and if she nags me, “no” can turn into “no going to the park until you can behave yourself in public”
Exactly. And Michael has learned that if he begs long enough Elly will always give in. Kids are extremely aware of how well or not an adult will adhere to an edict. Especially when there is no cost to the incessant wheedling. So you really got it right ejcapulet.
Unfortunately, the giving in is what usually happens in real life. And this “life lesson” behavior shows up throughout life.
Oh boy does this take me back to when my lot were little. I practised no meaning no, but that doesn’t stop the ‘incessant wheedling’ as you say. Now they are money earners themselves with part time jobs, it’s interesting to watch them control their spending. It’s a different story depending on whose wallet is being emptied.
Definitely shop when MIchael’s in school. But if you can’t put something he wants in the cart at the beginning. Tell him if he behaves all the way through he will get it. If he acts up you will put it back and stick to your guns.
My parents had a different strategy–as soon as we started, they took us out of the store altogether. If we then couldn’t straighten up our behavior, we either got a few firm spanks on our clothed behinds, or we went home. It really only took once, then it didn’t happen again. The younger kids just heard the story and that was enough!
Now that my oldest is 6, she gets an allowance. So whenever I get the “I waaaant this”, she either has to buy it with her own money or it goes on the Christmas/birthday list. (Her allowance has to be split between “spend”, “save” and “donate” so it takes a while to get what she wants sometimes.)
As My Grand-daughter has learned . It doesn’t matter if she is with me or her Mom. There are corners in all stores. If she acts up she will be standing in the corner. Doesn’t happen that often. She is pretty good.
Never bargain with them, they’re good because they’re supposed to be good. Not because you’ve made a contract. Once you’ve made a contract with a child they can just decide that being good wasnt worth it. They already know you probably won’t punish them anyway. Time out? Big deal. No kid is ever going to say, “Man, when I was a kid we had to be good or my Momma would put us in time out!”
And once you’ve said no the only time to ever change your mind is when you were wrong in the first place. It’s not a matter of who wins or loses. You’re the parent and that means you’re the one with the responsibility of being the teacher. Teach those lessons right when they’re young and you’ll thank yourself when they’re in high school
When the oldest was a tyke (She’s 14 now) no meant NO. When the 2nd came, no was NO. When the 3rd came no meant “If you guys can behave for the rest of the time in the store… When 4 and 5 came (Twins) no meant, well, maybe… OK just stop the chorus of 5!!!
When mine were small and I had to take them grocery shopping I’d take them to the produce aisle and let them pick out any piece of fruit they wanted…so they’d look all over…find the biggest/nicest piece they could…they never bugged me about the candy…
When my Mike was about 6, we took him to the store and he acted like a little beggar. We warned him once and when he didn’t stop, his Dad took him out to the car, strapped him into his car seat and left him there. He stayed out of Mike’s visual range and waited for me to finish shopping. Mike never misbehaved in the supermarket again.
I remember another time when Mike was young enough to sit in the cart seat I told him firmly as we were starting our shopping to sit still, and don’t beg. A few minutes later a lady who had watched me complimented me on being firm with Mike and commented on how many kids were allowed to get away with any kind of behavior. That was roughly 30 years ago. These days, I go into WinCo and watch kids digging in the bulk flour bins with their hands or stealing candy and the parents look the other way.
I have taken many children shopping with me. We have a game we play. If they are so well behaved that someone compliments me on their behavior they get a reward.
It is fun to have people come up and compliment me on the behavior of the 4-7 kids I have with me. This I want to reward.
I can’t stand the parents that let their kids treat the store like a playground….Running around, screaming and climbing on things! >:( We did not do this as kids and we certainly did not ask for anything either! This was in “Elly’s day” too.
Most recently at a store a yong mother was trying to calm her little girl down, her daughter was crying up a storm and had something in her hand the mom couldn’t calm her down. It just so happened the mom pulled her cart behind ours and when we where finished the little girl was screaming /crying so I as a older mom turned around and got to the little girls level, who at the time was in the shopping cart and distracted her in a very nice way speaking simple terms. The little girl stopped crying and the cashier was able to do her job while I spoke nicely to the little girl the mom was amazed and wanted me to go with them. It wound up being a quite event. I do not do this all the time but it was nice helping this young mom out and let the little girl forgot her problems and no one got hurt. I told my daughter who was there the little girt was so surprise wander who that crazy old woman was but at least she got distracted.
Wow kab2rb what a lovely thing you did, you must have seemed a godsend to that young mother! And I’m sure you didn’t appear to be a crazy old woman or the little girl probably would have screamed more and much louder! lol :o)
ComicDetectiveDA almost 15 years ago
Judging by the older strips, “No” must have been Lizzie and Elly’s favorite word.
Wolfdreamer250 almost 15 years ago
Oh my gosh, I have seen the greatest news about FBOFW. Lynn Johnston is legally allowing people to write Fan Fiction. According to her website, she is going to accept fan fiction writing at fanfiction.net This is huge because as little as five years ago she was threataning to sue people who wanted to write fan fiction about her characters. So if anyone is interested in writing for enjoyment about the Patterson clan, now is the time to do it.
http://www.fborfw.com/features/fanfic/
JP Steve Premium Member almost 15 years ago
It’s supposed to be true-to-life first and funny second. Sounds like you understood the cartoon perfectly.
ailenne almost 15 years ago
omg,, I need 8-10 pagEs……..
ejcapulet almost 15 years ago
Mine has learned that “no” means “no” and if she nags me, “no” can turn into “no going to the park until you can behave yourself in public”.
TheSkulker almost 15 years ago
ejcapulet said Mine has learned that “no” means “no” and if she nags me, “no” can turn into “no going to the park until you can behave yourself in public”
Exactly. And Michael has learned that if he begs long enough Elly will always give in. Kids are extremely aware of how well or not an adult will adhere to an edict. Especially when there is no cost to the incessant wheedling. So you really got it right ejcapulet.
Unfortunately, the giving in is what usually happens in real life. And this “life lesson” behavior shows up throughout life.
debrakay56 almost 15 years ago
Oh boy does this take me back to when my lot were little. I practised no meaning no, but that doesn’t stop the ‘incessant wheedling’ as you say. Now they are money earners themselves with part time jobs, it’s interesting to watch them control their spending. It’s a different story depending on whose wallet is being emptied.
lewisbower almost 15 years ago
“If you don’t stop this instant, I’m never taking you out again.”Silence. Of course I knew they meant it
alondra almost 15 years ago
Definitely shop when MIchael’s in school. But if you can’t put something he wants in the cart at the beginning. Tell him if he behaves all the way through he will get it. If he acts up you will put it back and stick to your guns.
PNmom06 almost 15 years ago
We need to go back to “mean” parents - parents who MEAN what they say, the FIRST time!! XD
pibfan868 almost 15 years ago
My parents had a different strategy–as soon as we started, they took us out of the store altogether. If we then couldn’t straighten up our behavior, we either got a few firm spanks on our clothed behinds, or we went home. It really only took once, then it didn’t happen again. The younger kids just heard the story and that was enough!
marionls almost 15 years ago
Two days ago, my comics page was much much better than now!!!!
lightenup Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Now that my oldest is 6, she gets an allowance. So whenever I get the “I waaaant this”, she either has to buy it with her own money or it goes on the Christmas/birthday list. (Her allowance has to be split between “spend”, “save” and “donate” so it takes a while to get what she wants sometimes.)
MermaidStitcher almost 15 years ago
As My Grand-daughter has learned . It doesn’t matter if she is with me or her Mom. There are corners in all stores. If she acts up she will be standing in the corner. Doesn’t happen that often. She is pretty good.
summerdog86 almost 15 years ago
Wolfdreamer, that is really big news. Thanks!
Durak Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Never bargain with them, they’re good because they’re supposed to be good. Not because you’ve made a contract. Once you’ve made a contract with a child they can just decide that being good wasnt worth it. They already know you probably won’t punish them anyway. Time out? Big deal. No kid is ever going to say, “Man, when I was a kid we had to be good or my Momma would put us in time out!”
And once you’ve said no the only time to ever change your mind is when you were wrong in the first place. It’s not a matter of who wins or loses. You’re the parent and that means you’re the one with the responsibility of being the teacher. Teach those lessons right when they’re young and you’ll thank yourself when they’re in high school
shewith5 almost 15 years ago
When the oldest was a tyke (She’s 14 now) no meant NO. When the 2nd came, no was NO. When the 3rd came no meant “If you guys can behave for the rest of the time in the store… When 4 and 5 came (Twins) no meant, well, maybe… OK just stop the chorus of 5!!!
BlondLionS almost 15 years ago
When mine were small and I had to take them grocery shopping I’d take them to the produce aisle and let them pick out any piece of fruit they wanted…so they’d look all over…find the biggest/nicest piece they could…they never bugged me about the candy…
JanLC almost 15 years ago
When my Mike was about 6, we took him to the store and he acted like a little beggar. We warned him once and when he didn’t stop, his Dad took him out to the car, strapped him into his car seat and left him there. He stayed out of Mike’s visual range and waited for me to finish shopping. Mike never misbehaved in the supermarket again.
I remember another time when Mike was young enough to sit in the cart seat I told him firmly as we were starting our shopping to sit still, and don’t beg. A few minutes later a lady who had watched me complimented me on being firm with Mike and commented on how many kids were allowed to get away with any kind of behavior. That was roughly 30 years ago. These days, I go into WinCo and watch kids digging in the bulk flour bins with their hands or stealing candy and the parents look the other way.
ireg almost 15 years ago
I have taken many children shopping with me. We have a game we play. If they are so well behaved that someone compliments me on their behavior they get a reward.
It is fun to have people come up and compliment me on the behavior of the 4-7 kids I have with me. This I want to reward.
mroberts88 almost 15 years ago
Y’know, a little discipline goes a long way in preventing that.
AndiJ almost 15 years ago
I can’t stand the parents that let their kids treat the store like a playground….Running around, screaming and climbing on things! >:( We did not do this as kids and we certainly did not ask for anything either! This was in “Elly’s day” too.
kab2rb almost 15 years ago
Most recently at a store a yong mother was trying to calm her little girl down, her daughter was crying up a storm and had something in her hand the mom couldn’t calm her down. It just so happened the mom pulled her cart behind ours and when we where finished the little girl was screaming /crying so I as a older mom turned around and got to the little girls level, who at the time was in the shopping cart and distracted her in a very nice way speaking simple terms. The little girl stopped crying and the cashier was able to do her job while I spoke nicely to the little girl the mom was amazed and wanted me to go with them. It wound up being a quite event. I do not do this all the time but it was nice helping this young mom out and let the little girl forgot her problems and no one got hurt. I told my daughter who was there the little girt was so surprise wander who that crazy old woman was but at least she got distracted.
OpenWings almost 15 years ago
Wow kab2rb what a lovely thing you did, you must have seemed a godsend to that young mother! And I’m sure you didn’t appear to be a crazy old woman or the little girl probably would have screamed more and much louder! lol :o)