IRAQ? Oh Yeah that’s the war that Bush won, all we are doing now is cleaning out the closets before we head home. Relax our troops will be home as soon as all of the violence is over.
Under Saddam there were no Al Qaeda in Iraq, before Saddam there was no Al Qaeda, because we hadn’t set bin Laden up yet, in cooperation with Pakistan’s secret service.
^ Thanks dtroutma.
…still they go on about Al-Qa’ida in Iraq before the invasion despite the irrefutable proof stating otherwise, the failures…total denial! Arghhh!
They’re in Iraq because of the invasion!
Dolts. :-|
ANandy, no, just plain no. Having a stable democracy may be helpful, only on the grounds that it is easier to work with a democracy because they are more like minded to our ways of running the show, but there is no evidence that the presence of democracies in the middle east are going to have a deterring effect on anyone. The only proven strategy is diplomacy, military cooperation and economic trade (think turkey, azerbaijan, saudi arabia, gulf states as a few examples).
A stable democracy is a PREREQUISITE to diplomacy, military cooperation, and trade.
The reason we did not have diplomacy with Iraq and Afghanistan before their respective invasions, and we don’t have it now with for example North Korea, is not because we don’t want to, or because we prefer things as they are, but because there is no such thing as diplomacy with such an entity. The concept itself does not exist.
Tizzy, no, that is WRONG. Perhaps it has escaped your attention, but many of ourtrading partners do not have a democratic form of government. To name two: Communist China, and Saudi Arabia.
Consider the close ties the US has with Saudi Arabia; heck, Bush was on kissing terms with their Prince.
I just find it interesting that there is less blood shed in Iraq on an average day than our daily carnage on OUR highways. Actually, there is less death in Afghanistan, or Iraq, on average, than the daily toll in the U.S. to gun deaths.
Maybe we should just consider war and terrorism “accidental” so we can totally ignore it, and do nothing about it?
Yes! Bring our troops home and put them on the highways, no roadside bombs, but some god-awful roadside food.
Of course, considering the state of our roads and highways after 8 years of neglect, it is hard to tell which is more dangerous our drivers or the roads we drive on?
Wow Tizzo, you are not only wrong about your theory of democracy being a prerequisit, but you are totally wrong about the diplomatic history of both iraq and afghanistan. I would do a little light reading before posting anything on the internet.
Nick Anderson’s «point» here is absurd - it is the height of hypocrisy to start a war of aggression abroad (the «supreme international crime», according to the International Military Tribunal at Nürnberg) and then protest the occurrence of violence in the invaded country - or indeed, in one’s own….
kennethcwarren64 over 14 years ago
IRAQ? Oh Yeah that’s the war that Bush won, all we are doing now is cleaning out the closets before we head home. Relax our troops will be home as soon as all of the violence is over.
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
Under Saddam there were no Al Qaeda in Iraq, before Saddam there was no Al Qaeda, because we hadn’t set bin Laden up yet, in cooperation with Pakistan’s secret service.
OmqR-IV.0 over 14 years ago
^ Thanks dtroutma. …still they go on about Al-Qa’ida in Iraq before the invasion despite the irrefutable proof stating otherwise, the failures…total denial! Arghhh! They’re in Iraq because of the invasion! Dolts. :-|
parkersinthehouse over 14 years ago
hey what are you guys doin up so early
a.c.d over 14 years ago
ANandy, no, just plain no. Having a stable democracy may be helpful, only on the grounds that it is easier to work with a democracy because they are more like minded to our ways of running the show, but there is no evidence that the presence of democracies in the middle east are going to have a deterring effect on anyone. The only proven strategy is diplomacy, military cooperation and economic trade (think turkey, azerbaijan, saudi arabia, gulf states as a few examples).
reocares over 14 years ago
this is a sad strip
cdward over 14 years ago
So very sad. And you could add Afghanistan violence.
tizzo over 14 years ago
acd,
A stable democracy is a PREREQUISITE to diplomacy, military cooperation, and trade.
The reason we did not have diplomacy with Iraq and Afghanistan before their respective invasions, and we don’t have it now with for example North Korea, is not because we don’t want to, or because we prefer things as they are, but because there is no such thing as diplomacy with such an entity. The concept itself does not exist.
PlainBill over 14 years ago
Tizzy, no, that is WRONG. Perhaps it has escaped your attention, but many of ourtrading partners do not have a democratic form of government. To name two: Communist China, and Saudi Arabia.
Consider the close ties the US has with Saudi Arabia; heck, Bush was on kissing terms with their Prince.
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
I just find it interesting that there is less blood shed in Iraq on an average day than our daily carnage on OUR highways. Actually, there is less death in Afghanistan, or Iraq, on average, than the daily toll in the U.S. to gun deaths.
Maybe we should just consider war and terrorism “accidental” so we can totally ignore it, and do nothing about it?
kennethcwarren64 over 14 years ago
Yes! Bring our troops home and put them on the highways, no roadside bombs, but some god-awful roadside food.
Of course, considering the state of our roads and highways after 8 years of neglect, it is hard to tell which is more dangerous our drivers or the roads we drive on?
a.c.d over 14 years ago
Wow Tizzo, you are not only wrong about your theory of democracy being a prerequisit, but you are totally wrong about the diplomatic history of both iraq and afghanistan. I would do a little light reading before posting anything on the internet.
mhenriday over 14 years ago
Nick Anderson’s «point» here is absurd - it is the height of hypocrisy to start a war of aggression abroad (the «supreme international crime», according to the International Military Tribunal at Nürnberg) and then protest the occurrence of violence in the invaded country - or indeed, in one’s own….
Henri