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@NVash Sorry I didnât get back to you sooner. One of the disadvantages of this comment format is that sometimes comments get lost in the fray. The Yahoo group of which I speak is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DickTracy/ which has been around for over a decade now and is run (last I knew) by Beau Kaelin. It boasts some illustrious members, but it could prove difficult to join. I left a few years ago, and reapplied for membership over two weeks ago. That membership is still pending for approval :( Sydney or Jim, if you could poke whoever is the current leadership at that group, Iâd be much obliged. @Everyone, for discussion: Which Tracy stories shaped you into the fan that you are today, your favorite storyline, or perhaps just the most nostalgic one? For me, itâs the Brow which is still my yardstick for measuring all other Tracy tales.
@idesama:Just after Sam Catchem was introduced, there was a nice long story arc about âSleetâ â the Harvey comics chopped it up with editing, but I was able to read the entire story in a book called âAmericaâs Most Famous Detectiveâ put out by Citadel Press. Many classic Tracy elements are in play in this story. The trench coat, the 2-way wrist radio, a long chase, Sam in peril, several eccentric secondary characters that Sleet involves while she is trying to escape Tracy and Sam â plus, Samâs personality really shines in this one.My all-time favorite story, however, is when Tracy and Tess finally get married, and then run in to âWormyâ while on their honeymoon. Harvey called this âThe Case of the Interrupted Honeymoonâ. This was one of the first Dick Tracy stories I had ever seen, and it really grabbed me as a kid. There is a flaw in the continuity â Tracy tells Tess that their cabin is 150 miles up in the mountasins, but when they start chasing Wormy, on foot, he ends up hiding out in the city. But, you know what? That actually contributes to the âmoodâ of the story, and it is something that Chester Gould used to do in his stories from time to time. Plus, I enjoy the art during this period very much.
morrow, I certainly agree. At these lengths the stories are a few whips snaps, there is an arrest and itâs âall overâ ! No room for a Chase sequence, which was always an expected, hard core part of any Gould tale.
I believe from the Kilian days some Editor had the notion that short stories worked better . In late 2001 the Bill Bailey sory lasted 3 weeks and the following 2002 tale, G.R.Eed only 6 weeks *!*Joe Staton in an Interview earlier this year indicated that they were aiming for very short stories, I believe of about *5 weeks** or so
My guess, thatâs TMS driven - although the current people havenât said so, Mike Kilian certainly did.
On the Yahoo DT board Mike says they are likely to adjust future stories to about 8 weeks, but this one and the next are already âcompleteâ in SHORTER form, and canât be adjusted
If readers prefer longer stories they ought to keep on saying SO, until there is some change. I gather they feel that readers donât have long âattention spansâ. Which would seem logical living with Locherâs SLOW (and ârepetativeâ) pacing.
But the current Authors are in a world of a âdifferent classâ !
@allI too wish the stories were a bit longer . But, Mike already said the story arcs will be longer. I donât think Team Tracy will let us down. They havenât really disappointed us yet.
Not to complain (much), but I am ready for longer stories featuring MORE Dick Tracy. Like so many others here have said, the new era of DT is spectacular.
I would like a story to draw out a little more though.
Does anyone know if these stories will be collected ? Who decides, Tribune ?
For me, itâs a matter of the story being just as long as it needs to be. Doubleup, I agree, would benefit from a longer story, but alas, approval from TMS did not come in time to allow it to be any longer than it currently is. In fact, I believe it will not be until the story after the next story that benefits from this longer timeframe. That said, Gould had a number of shorter stories as well, that were very satisfying, and there is nothing wrong with the shorter story, if it is written well. After all, Locher had a number of stories that were long, and none of them any good. Itâs pacing, not length, making sure that the strip has enough details to make sense, but not so many details that it becomes repetitive and dull. So far, Mr. Curtis has avoid the latter, but not quite achieved the former, however he is aware of the problem, has acknowledged the problem, and is working on fixing the problem, three things that I canât say for Mr. Locher or for Mr. Kilian before him. He is also succeeding in being entertaining, another thing I canât really say for Mr. Locher (and only occasionally for Mr. Kilian).Aaron
@idesama:Please elaborate. I am not familiar with âIDWâ that you mentioned in your latest comment. Is this a reprint collection, or what? Thank you for your thoughtful comments, I can tell that you know Dick Tracy history quite well.
My guess is that the second Scarlet Sting is Haku. Dick Tracy will arrive with his gun drawn and have to guess which one is the real Scarlet Sting. Actually neither of them are really the Scarlet Sting â one is DoubleUp and the other is Haku.I think DoubleUp said âYou canât be the Scarlet Sting. I am! I am!â and Haku said âAre you? Are you?â While Double Up has a psychological speech problem, Haku was merely repeating himself for emphasis.
@everyone Some nice links for Tracy fans: Buy Tracy at IDW Publishing I Love Comix â Vintage Archive The Drex Files â Dick Tracy A source of the original B&W DT version If you have other links, let me know!
Awesome! Thanks. I do like seeing the strips of the current team in its intended B&W. I donât mind the color, but the art and inks look so much better without it. And I like seeing some of the Collins/Locher Sundays, itâs the era and legacy I prefer to think of when I think of Mr. Locher, the stuff that I hope he will be remembered and admired for. @NVash Youâre welcome, again, sorry it took me so long to get back to you, but on the other hand, Iâm still pending. :( Perhaps itâs just as well, an oldâŚhrm, acquaintance, shall we sayâŚhas reared his head, and the messages there lately have been uglyâŚI wish people would just ignore him, we (and he) would be happier, I think. On the plus side, though, the group is frequented by such illuminaries as Andy Feighery of Spec Productions who puts out Dick Tracy Magazine, another wonderful resource for Tracy enthusiastsâŚOfficer Jim Doherty who has been a member of those boards for years, a wonderful contributor and individual (and current creator of the Crimestoppers segments)âŚJeff Kersten, the curator of Dick Tracy Museum and a fine gentleman in his own rightâŚa gentleman you may have heard of by the name of Mike Curtis. I hear heâs a pretty good writer, not sure if youâre familiar with himâŚSo please do not think that the board is usually as ugly as it currently is.Aaron
I agree, the stories seem too short. Preferable to too long, but still too short. Dickâs not been in my local paper for many years, which is a shame since itâs Dick Locherâs hometown. The stories I remember best from my youth are Dick losing his vision and wearing âblindâ glasses, carrying a cane and having little mirrors in the glasses so he could see behind him, being able to see long before he told anyone his vision had returned. That and a kid named Peanut Butter. Then I read a book which collected the first 25 years! That was all in the 70âs.
Wow, it seems that some readers canât be satisfied. Canât be satisfied. It was just four months ago we were whining about the interminable arcs of Locher & Brozeman. Of Locher & Brozeman. I too would like to see stories slightly longer. Slightly longer. But for now, Iâm pleased with good artwork and a coherent story line. A coherent story line.
Author Mike Curtis has clearly stated on several occasions that there will be longer arcs, the current runs were predetermined, etc. I canât understand why people donât get it, and just enjoy the Dick Tracy Renaissance. Dick Tracy Renaissance.
Tarry Plaguer over 13 years ago
Good Evening All! No he isnât! No he isnât!
margueritem over 13 years ago
Iâd say not! Say not!
Vista Bill Raley and Comet⢠over 13 years ago
Good morning allâŚ
That wouldnât be Tracy dressed as The Scarlet Sting, would it?
Wiseking over 13 years ago
It could be. Could Be!
Det.DanDone over 13 years ago
This is awesome! AWESOME!!!.Salutations Everyone!
ARF2 over 13 years ago
Itâs a sting operation. Sting operation.
Steve Bartholomew over 13 years ago
I hope this ainât the end of the story arc already already.
Sisyphos over 13 years ago
Wow! It IS happeningâthe bullwhip versus bullwhip showdown! Crackinâ good action, lads! (Lizz, are you looking to us for help there in panel 3?)
Tarry Plaguer over 13 years ago
Just because. Where thereâs a whip, thereâs a way!
mjmsprt40 over 13 years ago
We have the boots, we have the whips, all we need is the trampoline. Somebody call the cops, this is getting too kinky.
Aaron Mimura over 13 years ago
@NVash Sorry I didnât get back to you sooner. One of the disadvantages of this comment format is that sometimes comments get lost in the fray. The Yahoo group of which I speak is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DickTracy/ which has been around for over a decade now and is run (last I knew) by Beau Kaelin. It boasts some illustrious members, but it could prove difficult to join. I left a few years ago, and reapplied for membership over two weeks ago. That membership is still pending for approval :( Sydney or Jim, if you could poke whoever is the current leadership at that group, Iâd be much obliged. @Everyone, for discussion: Which Tracy stories shaped you into the fan that you are today, your favorite storyline, or perhaps just the most nostalgic one? For me, itâs the Brow which is still my yardstick for measuring all other Tracy tales.
sydney over 13 years ago
@barticle35End of story arc ?Itâs one month . . . Itâs one month, already !
FFosdick over 13 years ago
Why would the rescuer talk like Double Up? There would be no mistaking the identies angle.
coratelli over 13 years ago
Itâs tracy??
Ken in Ohio over 13 years ago
@idesama:Just after Sam Catchem was introduced, there was a nice long story arc about âSleetâ â the Harvey comics chopped it up with editing, but I was able to read the entire story in a book called âAmericaâs Most Famous Detectiveâ put out by Citadel Press. Many classic Tracy elements are in play in this story. The trench coat, the 2-way wrist radio, a long chase, Sam in peril, several eccentric secondary characters that Sleet involves while she is trying to escape Tracy and Sam â plus, Samâs personality really shines in this one.My all-time favorite story, however, is when Tracy and Tess finally get married, and then run in to âWormyâ while on their honeymoon. Harvey called this âThe Case of the Interrupted Honeymoonâ. This was one of the first Dick Tracy stories I had ever seen, and it really grabbed me as a kid. There is a flaw in the continuity â Tracy tells Tess that their cabin is 150 miles up in the mountasins, but when they start chasing Wormy, on foot, he ends up hiding out in the city. But, you know what? That actually contributes to the âmoodâ of the story, and it is something that Chester Gould used to do in his stories from time to time. Plus, I enjoy the art during this period very much.
sydney over 13 years ago
morrow, I certainly agree. At these lengths the stories are a few whips snaps, there is an arrest and itâs âall overâ ! No room for a Chase sequence, which was always an expected, hard core part of any Gould tale.
I believe from the Kilian days some Editor had the notion that short stories worked better . In late 2001 the Bill Bailey sory lasted 3 weeks and the following 2002 tale, G.R.Eed only 6 weeks *!*Joe Staton in an Interview earlier this year indicated that they were aiming for very short stories, I believe of about *5 weeks** or so
My guess, thatâs TMS driven - although the current people havenât said so, Mike Kilian certainly did.
On the Yahoo DT board Mike says they are likely to adjust future stories to about 8 weeks, but this one and the next are already âcompleteâ in SHORTER form, and canât be adjusted
If readers prefer longer stories they ought to keep on saying SO, until there is some change. I gather they feel that readers donât have long âattention spansâ. Which would seem logical living with Locherâs SLOW (and ârepetativeâ) pacing.
But the current Authors are in a world of a âdifferent classâ !
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billdi Premium Member over 13 years ago
lizz is looking at us and thinking, what is it with these guys and their whips just because iâm all tied up and helpless?
margueritem over 13 years ago
I was just a little kid. I do remember Flat Top, and Prune Face.
Det.DanDone over 13 years ago
@allI too wish the stories were a bit longer . But, Mike already said the story arcs will be longer. I donât think Team Tracy will let us down. They havenât really disappointed us yet.
marvee over 13 years ago
Since they are both repeating, how will we be able to tell whoâs who? More importantly, can Liz tell?
BuzzyKincaid73 over 13 years ago
Not to complain (much), but I am ready for longer stories featuring MORE Dick Tracy. Like so many others here have said, the new era of DT is spectacular.
I would like a story to draw out a little more though.
Does anyone know if these stories will be collected ? Who decides, Tribune ?
Aaron Mimura over 13 years ago
For me, itâs a matter of the story being just as long as it needs to be. Doubleup, I agree, would benefit from a longer story, but alas, approval from TMS did not come in time to allow it to be any longer than it currently is. In fact, I believe it will not be until the story after the next story that benefits from this longer timeframe. That said, Gould had a number of shorter stories as well, that were very satisfying, and there is nothing wrong with the shorter story, if it is written well. After all, Locher had a number of stories that were long, and none of them any good. Itâs pacing, not length, making sure that the strip has enough details to make sense, but not so many details that it becomes repetitive and dull. So far, Mr. Curtis has avoid the latter, but not quite achieved the former, however he is aware of the problem, has acknowledged the problem, and is working on fixing the problem, three things that I canât say for Mr. Locher or for Mr. Kilian before him. He is also succeeding in being entertaining, another thing I canât really say for Mr. Locher (and only occasionally for Mr. Kilian).Aaron
Ken in Ohio over 13 years ago
@idesama:Please elaborate. I am not familiar with âIDWâ that you mentioned in your latest comment. Is this a reprint collection, or what? Thank you for your thoughtful comments, I can tell that you know Dick Tracy history quite well.
rvonluchen over 13 years ago
My guess is that the second Scarlet Sting is Haku. Dick Tracy will arrive with his gun drawn and have to guess which one is the real Scarlet Sting. Actually neither of them are really the Scarlet Sting â one is DoubleUp and the other is Haku.I think DoubleUp said âYou canât be the Scarlet Sting. I am! I am!â and Haku said âAre you? Are you?â While Double Up has a psychological speech problem, Haku was merely repeating himself for emphasis.
alleyoops Premium Member over 13 years ago
Double Up is doubled up!
Tarry Plaguer over 13 years ago
Edit â Remove Cringer from the above comment and replace with Panthro. I had a He-Man hiccup.
Tarry Plaguer over 13 years ago
@everyone Some nice links for Tracy fans: Buy Tracy at IDW Publishing I Love Comix â Vintage Archive The Drex Files â Dick Tracy A source of the original B&W DT version If you have other links, let me know!
Aaron Mimura over 13 years ago
Awesome! Thanks. I do like seeing the strips of the current team in its intended B&W. I donât mind the color, but the art and inks look so much better without it. And I like seeing some of the Collins/Locher Sundays, itâs the era and legacy I prefer to think of when I think of Mr. Locher, the stuff that I hope he will be remembered and admired for. @NVash Youâre welcome, again, sorry it took me so long to get back to you, but on the other hand, Iâm still pending. :( Perhaps itâs just as well, an oldâŚhrm, acquaintance, shall we sayâŚhas reared his head, and the messages there lately have been uglyâŚI wish people would just ignore him, we (and he) would be happier, I think. On the plus side, though, the group is frequented by such illuminaries as Andy Feighery of Spec Productions who puts out Dick Tracy Magazine, another wonderful resource for Tracy enthusiastsâŚOfficer Jim Doherty who has been a member of those boards for years, a wonderful contributor and individual (and current creator of the Crimestoppers segments)âŚJeff Kersten, the curator of Dick Tracy Museum and a fine gentleman in his own rightâŚa gentleman you may have heard of by the name of Mike Curtis. I hear heâs a pretty good writer, not sure if youâre familiar with himâŚSo please do not think that the board is usually as ugly as it currently is.Aaron
admwrlk Premium Member over 13 years ago
I agree, the stories seem too short. Preferable to too long, but still too short. Dickâs not been in my local paper for many years, which is a shame since itâs Dick Locherâs hometown. The stories I remember best from my youth are Dick losing his vision and wearing âblindâ glasses, carrying a cane and having little mirrors in the glasses so he could see behind him, being able to see long before he told anyone his vision had returned. That and a kid named Peanut Butter. Then I read a book which collected the first 25 years! That was all in the 70âs.
pearlboy over 13 years ago
am I I donât know are you
countoftowergrove over 13 years ago
Wow, it seems that some readers canât be satisfied. Canât be satisfied. It was just four months ago we were whining about the interminable arcs of Locher & Brozeman. Of Locher & Brozeman. I too would like to see stories slightly longer. Slightly longer. But for now, Iâm pleased with good artwork and a coherent story line. A coherent story line.
mzkdad over 13 years ago
Author Mike Curtis has clearly stated on several occasions that there will be longer arcs, the current runs were predetermined, etc. I canât understand why people donât get it, and just enjoy the Dick Tracy Renaissance. Dick Tracy Renaissance.
Tarry Plaguer over 13 years ago
I almost forgot to mention. Today is the 100th strip by the new team!