Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for December 09, 2011

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    BE THIS GUY  about 13 years ago

    Roz, the helos are going to a better place…or Afghanistan.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  about 13 years ago

    This is a psychological strip. Roz has a poetic soul, but fears to show it in the military environment. She is afraid to come out of her shell, but wants to. The more “liberated” Mel is amused by Roz and is encouraging her to express herself. This is all creative, symbolic stuff. Neither woman would literally jump on a flatbed and try to “free” a gunship. Why risk getting into trouble? Why is Trudeau doing this? What’s his point?

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    BE THIS GUY  about 13 years ago

    Desert

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    DylanThomas3.14159  about 13 years ago

    LWP (in case you’re still up): What’s the “better place”? It’s obviously not Afghanistan, elsewhere in Iraq or Iran. Is it the USA? Hangar heaven?

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    DylanThomas3.14159  about 13 years ago

    Trouble is, with Obama’s attitude, the “better place” may just be Kuwait! The helos will thus remain “in the region” of the Middle East, awaiting to resume the borderless “war on terror”. If the reich-wing wins major victories in the House, Senate, and maybe even takes the White House, then expect these “killing machines” to go right back into use.

    Sorry, folks.

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    Plods with ...™  about 13 years ago

    My head hurts… I just thought it was funny.

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    Ravenswing  about 13 years ago

    @ Dylan – eeesh. It didn’t escape your notice that this is a COMIC STRIP, I hope and trust, and that every now and then it puts in some humorous situations that might involve characters being ironic or unrealistic?

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    roctor  about 13 years ago

    Its just was a pressure relieving moment. As soon as the birds are gone so are they.

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    jimwill0803  about 13 years ago

    It’s not rocket science folks. GT is trying to get you to think, and look at the deeper meanings in life. Sometimes we see it, and sometimes we don’t. One day you see a beautiful bird darting across the sky. That could mean freedom and being care free. It could mean a lot of things.

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    winsaid  about 13 years ago

    We are reminded that there are souls living this war ; poets, pretenders, patriots, perverts…. just like us. Not just death machines.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  about 13 years ago

     “Much truth is spoken in jest” —Gilda Radner, American comic 

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    tedunn5453  about 13 years ago

    Dandwriter1, where and when did you work on F4s? I was a B43171C early in my AF career.

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    Paladin39  about 13 years ago

    Popular strips are often popular because they can be inserted into our psyche to reinforce our beliefs. GT is a master at this and has lasted 40 years. I’d love to read his interpretation of this particular strip.

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    hawaiidrmr  about 13 years ago

    From 7 years ago, on their way to war, what shrink wrapped birds look like:http://www.msc.navy.mil/sealift/2004/February/graphics/2LMSRsonpier.jpg

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    Buzza Wuzza  about 13 years ago

    There are times when Doonesbury is the most interesting thing in the entire paper much less the comics.

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    Jack Straw  about 13 years ago

    9 Chickweed Lane needs a chat site.

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    MysteryCat  about 13 years ago

    I love the expression on Roz’s face in the last panel.Well drawn, GT!

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    FlyinHeavy  about 13 years ago

    Dylan, sometimes, a comic is just a comic. I’m a pilot and it’s common to anthropomorphize the machines. Even though they are all the same, they develop personalities. We talk about them as such sometimes. While Trudeau does go deep in some stories, sometimes humor is pretty shallow, but still funny.

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    Dtroutma  about 13 years ago

    Hmm, I remember the scenes of the ships we worked hard to keep in the air being pushed off carrier decks into the ocean, or being ditched (with dramatic results!!). I also flashed from the comments on seeing and F-4 coming straight at me, with a full rack of napalm half way to the ground and the sudden urge to dig a hole, well, back to the U.S.!(not China!)

    Of course what is the cost of shipping these ships home, and what is the cost of all the equipment we’re leaving behind, to either be used, or already scrap???? Yes, fly little gunship, fly!!

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    whiteaj  about 13 years ago

    Fly away… to the US border.

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    tigre1  about 13 years ago

    Thanks for the fundiwack. And ‘fly, little’…etc gets them out of her (our?) hair…great sequence. Admire greatly.

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    JoeStoppinghem Premium Member about 13 years ago

    Nice out look, can’t wait for more troops to come home.

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    Rymlianin  about 13 years ago

    Folks, the Republicans signed a bunch of budget cuts . They didn’t notice that hey had not exempted the military in their headlong rush to pass budget cuts. They put their foot in it and now must rely on Obama to extricate them from their dilemma.

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    DylanThomas3.14159  about 13 years ago

    “Is there a point here somewhere?” There is a point. The issue is: Shall we attack Iran? Either directly or by proxy (Israel)? I think “war with Iran” = “war with China”, since that huge, rapidly developing country needs Iran’s oil. This will lead to WWIII, the “unintended consequence”. 

    “I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”—Albert Einstein

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    FriscoLou  about 13 years ago

    The big problem is, Trudeau doesn’t know how to draw cartoon hands, too many fingers.

    Some people would say, “Trudeau is trying to tell us that, ‘the strip is more literal than we can admit’.”

    I on the other hand think it just shows that 40 yrs of mediocre graphics is irrelevant.

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    skeezyx  about 13 years ago

    ````` I was Armorer of an active duty Army Field Artillery unit 1977-79, & confess I TOTALLY identify with coming to love beautifully made, effective, efficient machines for what they are, while mentally diviorcing them from what they do. My M203 40mm grenade launchers and Browning M2 .50-cal HB machineguns were MY BABIES, so much so that I got irationally angry if they were mistreated by the guys who acutally USED them. And I could hardly bear the thought of somebody ever getting actually shot with them.

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    yuggib  about 13 years ago

    Yeppers, The modern military mess hall. Oops! My bad, the “dinning facility.” (Danged PC’ers even got to the Pentagon.)

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