Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for August 05, 2012

A daydream or nightmare?

I’m good with that.

Also, DT pi was sick and now he’s back, yay, go back a couple of days for details in the comments.

Well, it’s his strip, and he can troll it if he wants to.

Also, too…when did the Archie comix last get any fresh blood? I think there was a redhead…oh, wait…

Disclaimer: they stick this stuff on magazine racks at the grocery store where I wait in line…cannot avert eyes…

You were going to watch your language, remember?

Sorry, that was harsh. I should be more specific.

If people are to have issues about gods damning things, I think we need to get some criteria straight about which gods are recognized as such, which recognized gods are acknowledged as having the capacity to damn, and ultimately why such recognized gods with the capacity damn must not be addressed thusly in public forums. I think we would need some demonstrated proof of harm done by making such public pleas.

DT 3.14; take care, hang in there, don’t eat no bad chilis.

Stripped of its current modern meaning as a epithet, God-damning is actually a form of a prayer. Asking a god (or Yaveh God) to damn someone to hell is a plea. Of course God isn’t going to honor such a request.

@MiepR: I believe Magueritem childed Snoopster because he’s an 11q\-year-old/ In my religion, even saying “Oh My God!” (not “OMG”) can be considered blasphemous and disrespectivful by some, although I may say it spontaneously, but I draw the line on “God Damnit.”

@MiepR The question for me is “Which god, where?” It puzzles me that people assume they are all talking about tthe same entity even though they can not agree on any of the details. In science, the god concept doesn’t explain anything nor solve any problem; it only signals "beyond this point is mystery. "

My English/Lit teacher way back in high school would not let us write a story that ends in “…it was all just a dream.” I usually agree. Today’s an exception. Mike’s dream, spread out over a week, and a punch line I admit I didn’t see coming. A funny story this week, Mr. Trudeau. Good job.

gee trudeau, ya think?

Told you so!

I once woke to that Prometheus vulture, about to eat my liver (metphorically speaking). not having time to get into the right frame of mind, I said: “God? I can’t take it any more!!!! Give me a f-ing break!!!” then felt embarrassed that I had used foul language toward a being/spirit whose existence I wasn’t at all sure of. that noon someone asked me whether I wanted to go fishing. I had “No” all ready, but “yes” popped out. followed 3 hours of peaceful time, someone confiding a secret they’d never spoken of before, threading a hookk in a cricket’s collar (ouch!) and catching 3 fish, I think they were bream (if there is such a fish). returning home to clean & cook them in an atmosphere of marital enmity, I prepared the fish and when I took my first bite I realized that my prayer had been answered. I never make no mind about language or the existence of the Most High since then. try & live as though there were a unifying. merciful beyond-my-imagination Whatit Is. and if it isn’t, doesn’t matter – rather do the really hard stuff (so counterintuitive!) than the eye for an eye retro stuff.

Yeah! I was right! Mike has his summer daydream every year, but I think this was the first time it ran all week and had so many fooled. Way to go, GT!

Now you can all breathe a sigh of relief. Tomorrow its back to attacking Mitt the Twit.

Oh go away. We weren’t even going there!!Can’t you drop your negativity for at least on day a week?

Why not give medals. They aren’t the point of the games in any case.

Here we go round the prickly pearPrickly pear prickly pearHere we go round the prickly pearAt five o’clock in the morning.π—T.S. Idiot, ur, Eliot (sorry) in “The Hollow Men”

Thanx, bud. I hope I’m never stupid enough to bite into a raw habanero chile. But shredded and barely barely sprinkled on Mexican refried beans with cheese on a tortilla . . . . Oh, precious beloved, please do not tempt. It’s too late at night.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I feel sure that in my past lives I was Italian, Cajun, and Mexican because of my passion for cooking in these culinary genres. More than 25yrs in the Southwest, prior to my relocation to the South, has done nothing to diminish my appetite for all things spicy. I grow my own peppers ( including Scotch Bonnets,) which will really get your attention.I’m not sure how digesting hot peppers affects your specific illness, but I do know that there is serious evidence of the efficacy of, for example, cayenne pepper, in lowering blood pressure, aiding digestion and easing arthritis among other things. The more you eat the more your tolerance to the heat builds up . In short, Jalepanos and Jabaneros are your friends. Enjoy them !

“Obama Must Go”πAgreed. GO OBAMA!

Good to see everyone again! Not sure why we wouldn’t be allowed to write about daydreams, since they actually do happen in real life as well in this strip and many other places. It may be that a high school teacher wanted students to avoid an over usage of something. Some teachers in grade school ban kids from starting with “once a upon a time,” since young kids need to find other ways to express beginnings of stories. Lots of us teachers are lefties and we are some of the most positive people anyone could ever meet!

“All the negativity is on the left. I just want an America that is free and growing again.”πAll the negativity is on the left. I just want a Germany that is free and growing again. (In the context of your previous posts, this sounds like the rising young Adolf of the 1920s and ’30s.)

As soon as the GOP gets their candidate back in the White House they will no longer be concerned about the deficit. They will be spending $ on what they want to spend it on.

At least Obama and the Dems have tried a pay as you go approach, and Bush and the GOP did not do the pay as you go approach at all.

What the GOP is trying with voter suppression at the moment amounts to what was going on in the Jim Crow era. It was voter suppression then and it is voter suppression now.

For decades, Garry’s “dream world”, has pushed the barbecue fork into pomposity, and the wars and idiocy of it’s bloated belly or buttocks, as the day and current condition may require. From “Phred”, who I knew, and held nothing personal against, or he me, to the recent “repulsive raven of race”, the barb has sometimes caused us pain, but always with a wisdom and delight, that not only the good, but bad, in life, can be rendered as a dream, that we as humans, can separate from real life, hopefully, for our betterment.

The barb may be sharp at times, if thrust with wit, but is not the hammer blow of intolerance, hate, and ignorance, that comes down as a heel to the human spirit. The grace is, that like a banana peel, that thick skin, can lubricate the fall, of the true tyrant, physical, mental, or “spiritual”, and break it’s stride, and back.

“BEST IN SHOW”πSorry I had to revise slightly that post, so that it is now chronologically slightly out of order relative to your post, Sharuniboy.

No, I made a comment or two during the Jim Crow couple of weeks. I couldn’t comment much since part of that time I was on vacation with my family. I was only managing to see the script on my cell phone during vacay. I did say at that time that while Governor Wallace was a Democrat, this did not mean that the Jim Crow laws were right. The Democratic party has always had a big tent. Governor Wallace must have known at the time that many Democrats did not agree with his stand on Jim Crow laws, among them were JFK, LBJ, HHH, RFK and many others. LBJ knew that the Democrats would lose the south after the voter rights act was passed and he said so to Bill Moyers, a journalist who has recounted this story many times.

I am sorry to hear of your illness DT. Hang in there! I can’t offer any medical advice, sorry. My husband is an orthopedic surgeon and he is very careful about giving out advice even though as a medical doc he knows more than the average joe. (A surprising number of people have asked him about things which are not related to orthopedics in any way…)Then again, whatever helps…

Jeez, get over yourself. I reviled Bush but I never gave him the status of an evil deity as you are doing our President. After he’s re-elected, will you settle down? Oh, and where are the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Oh, and has Romney paid his taxes? Oh, and is GM bankrupt? Oh, and is Osama bin Laden alive?

Ummm…ouch!!

Let me see…narrow minded, fascist, negative…and by the way, a country can never grow and thrive if people are shackled by an unfair tax system and no medical safety net…I should know, I live in one that seems to work better.

“yep, still hurts. i better lay down for the rest of the day”πI love put-ons too.

Just heard breaking news about a mass shooting in a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. I wonder if GT has an arc about gun control in the works?

Welcome back, pi, I hope you have a speedy and complete recovery (you may not expect it, but it never hurts to be optimistic).I hope you all aren’t disappointed; as I read the strip, Mike did attempt the transition. The dream is that it all went smoothly, but back to reality with Alex quitting. So things go back to normal, with today being the daydream ’til the last frame.

It’s merely a gag - why anyone would have thought that this is a long-term change escapes me. It’s been funny, too. Poking fun at his own strip really worked because the strip and its characters are so good-they have distinct personalities etc. and the logic of the narratives always reflects this sort of thing. More of this is fine by me.

My son’s an atheist. My ex is an atheist. One of my fave authors, Victor J. Stenger, is an atheist. I believe in Ultimate Mystery. The proof of the pudding, though, is in the eating.

“I almost died in 2006.”πwelcome back from your NDE (near-death experience).

Anyone who says don’t control atomic bombs must be using sarcasm, I would assume. :) People who have weapons kill people and the deadlier the weapon, of course, the worse the result. When the 2nd amendment was written, our founding fathers could not have imagined the weapons we now have. Even Justice Scalia admitted that recently.

I saw another report of a mass killing in China where someone killed several people with a knife. Therefore, gun advocates claimed that this shows that guns should not be allowed since we can’t outlaw knives. Of course, it is a hell of a lot harder to kill someone with a knife than with a gun and it is a lot easier to kill lots more people with an assault weapon than with a pistol. So, I think it is time to get a grip on this issue. It isn’t that hard to see that assault weapons should be banned. They were banned until recently when the assault weapon ban expired in 2006 or something around that time.

When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Therefore don’t control guns. When cars are outlawed, only outlaws will have cars. Therefore, don’t control cars. Don’t get upset, folks, it’s only logic.

If gun control is so ineffective, why are there so few deaths related to firearms where far fewer in the population actually have guns? If it were up to me, we would be a country more like England in terms of gun ownership, where there are far fewer deaths related to guns. However, I recognize that I have to settle for a little less than what I would like in terms of gun control. I don’t think it unreasonable to bring back the assault weapon ban. I don’t live in a household with guns. I used to live in areas which were considered a bit rough, but would never consider having a gun. Members of my family have hunting rifles, and I wish they didn’t, since accidents can happen, but I won’t stop them or insist that they get rid of their firearms, even though it isn’t my cup of tea at all. I have two brothers who have always been big rivals and they both hunt. A few years ago one of them accidentally shot the other. I didn’t realize that game shots are different from ammo from a handgun, so when I first heard about it I was very disturbed. My shot bro only received a bit of shrapnel and it was considered superficial, a la Dick Cheney. My 2 bros have never hunted together again, though they both still hunt. Apparently, with game shots, the stuff spreads out all over as if you were throwing sand or something. In some ways, this sounds worse than a pistol with one solid bullet hitting something, but whatever. I remember my sisterinlaw telling me about it— John shot Bob. What, I said. Oh, it’s no big deal, she said. What? I said. (I thought she was next going to say oh, the wake is in 2 days and we will bury Bob on Friday) or something like that…

@miepR re your comment of yesterday:My comment had nothing to do with religion. It had to do with a promise made to stop potty mouthing in his comments. The rest of us use words that are fit for general consumption.. He may learn to increase his vocabulary, in a good way.