Frazz by Jef Mallett for November 06, 2016
Transcript:
Caulfield: Eureka! Mrs. Olsen: Heavens, Caulfield. What? Caulfield: Roman numerals are in alphabetical order only through the number eight. Unless you continue to nine, and then it's alphabetical only through four! But dig this: If you ditch the subtractive principle and write four as IIII and nine as VIIII...you can get all the way to thirty-nine before you lost it. Frazz: How far before Mrs. Olsen lost it? Caulfield: Panel VI.
Bilan about 8 years ago
It took me a minute to get this.
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In binary, it’s only alphabetical through two.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] about 8 years ago
By “losing it” he means before you have to use C, M, and L.
Blackthorne42 about 8 years ago
How rare is it when Caulfield breaks the IVth Wall?
mddshubby2005 about 8 years ago
Caulfield, that’s reverse alphabetical order, i.e.; X comes after V comes after I.
dpatrickryan Premium Member about 8 years ago
I don’t get it – how is XXXIIIIIIIII to XXXX any different than the transition from twenty-nine to thirty (or nineteen to twenty, for that matter)? Now, forty-nine, sure: XXXXIIIIIIIII to L clearly breaks the order.
whiteheron about 8 years ago
So, is VMI = 996 ? Or only on the parade ground?
Nebulous Premium Member about 8 years ago
Doesn’t XXXX come after XXXVIIII?But it breaks when you try to put L after XXXXVIIII
peter about 8 years ago
In fact, I think that, if you ditch the subtractive principe, fourty becomes XXXX, and you can get to fourty nine without losing it! :-)
kaystari Premium Member about 8 years ago
in what universe does “V” come before “I”? Unless we are supposed to be reading right to left, but Latin does not read right to left.
charlp Premium Member about 8 years ago
Gotta agree, if you’re dropping the subtractive principle, then you get to XXXXVIIII before it “breaks”.
The Brooklyn Accent Premium Member about 8 years ago
So in fact, it was Caulfield, or Mallett himself, who lost it (i.e., got it wrong) in panel VI.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] about 8 years ago
Panel VI Mrs. Olsen put a stop to it.
Richard S Russell Premium Member about 8 years ago
Roman numerals make even less sense than daylight savings time, and we’ve all been recently reminded just how stupid that is! I hope the NFL comes to its senses about numbering Super Bowls and keeps going with digits from 50 onward (unless they’re trying to appeal to Chinese audiences with “LI”).
HappyDog/ᵀʳʸ ᴮᵒᶻᵒ ⁴ ᵗʰᵉ ᶠᵘⁿ ᵒᶠ ᶦᵗ Premium Member about 8 years ago
Someone once said that there is no zero in Roman numerals. But since V V is not used anywhere, wouldn’t that mean Zero (using the “subtractive” principle)?
JanLC about 8 years ago
My antique clock face has IIII for four, but IX for nine.
Scoonz about 8 years ago
“Who’s smart enough…? Evidently not you.Frazz was talking about her patience not her intelligence, Tool. (More genteel than”dick" according to you who calls a child a tool)
Go rake your leaves and get up early and take a pick, Dick.
Scoonz about 8 years ago
Pic, not pick that is. Wouldn’t want the Comic Fairy to have to explain that to you. You never disappoint though, that’s for sure.
joey_m about 8 years ago
Can someone explain what “unless you continue to nine” means, please? That’s the only panel I didn’t understand.
FrankTAW 4 months ago
BTW, the Romans didn’t use the subtractive principle. That was a medieval invention. Once they switched to Arabic numerals, saving space became more important than ease of calculation.