Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for November 16, 2011
November 15, 2011
November 17, 2011
Transcript:
Crystal: "So they didn't want you to be Zeye because you're too famous?"
TIffany: "I'll prove it, Crystal"
Tiffany: "Hi. I'm Sheraton St. Louis"
Crystal: "Struck speechless"
Tiffany: "Toldja"
You aren’t that late, it happened back in 2006. What’s funny is that there really is a Sheraton St. Louis, I’ve stayed there.
Tiffany took the name when she entered the Miss Chamber of Commerce pageant. She claimed she could win as ‘Heidi Hanksnot’, but to do the crown justice she needed a “glitzier” name.
http://www.gocomics.com/luann/2006/03/22.What’s even funnier is that Luann and Bernice then suckered her into thinking Steven Speilberg was looking to cast her in his next film, then told her he’d cast Lucy Liu instead – this arc’s sort of a reprise of that one.
On a slightly more serious note, I guess we’ve all noticed that Luann (the character) is becoming a rather rare commodity on Luann (the strip). Formerly marginal characters are now jostling for centre-space. I don’t know if I’m wrong in saying that Luann, as a character, is more or less played out. She can’t really go further forward without entering adulthood, and that would pretty much leave the entire premise of this comic in the dust. Evans can’t have her graduating from school, moving away to college and so on; the strip is set in Pittsville and everyone must remain here, including Brad, which is why he isn’t going somewhere else for another position as a fireman. Not that I mind the marginal characters getting more attention, because I’ve always found people like Crystal or Knute more interesting than Luann or Brad; but Bernice and Delta are also doing the slow, steady vanishing act, aren’t they? I’m pretty sure Crystal’s now a more important character than Delta, and creeping up on Bernice.
About the strip, I think – from the total lack of motion on his part – that the guy IS struck speechless…that someone can have a name as ridiculous as that.
Tiff’s brother must be the slick-skating Martin St. Louis from the Tampa Bay Lightning. Yes, I can see the family resemblance, but she ain’t got his moves. And he scores more.
She’s extreeeeeeme, but have you noticed how the rest of us also live in fantasy worlds? To some extent, we all see reality in a way that fits our own desires, or our preconceptions. Tiff = us.
I do magic and balloon twisting on the side, and Macy’s hired me to perform at their store in conjunction with a kids program they were doing. My first volunteer up on stage was a little girl whose name turned out to be Macy. I told her my name Was Dillard KMart.
I really think you misinterpreted Greg’s statement. Greg regrets naming the comic “Luann” because of the properties of the name itself, not because it’s not “more encompassing” or inclusive of other characters. .Greg stated in an LA Times interview awhile back that he strongly identitfies with Luann, especially now that she’s in high school, not with the others in her universe..“The name “Luann” occurred to me as I was driving around town and spotted a truck from a construction company called “Louetto.” Something about that name had the right clunky sound I was wanting for my title character. But “Louetto” sounded a bit Italian and too masculine so I massaged it into Luann. “DeGroot” was picked from a phone book. As a name for an average, clumpy dumpy teen, Luann DeGroot is fine. As the name of a comic strip, “Luann” is too slippery, hard to spell, tricky to pronounce and remember. “Zits” would have been much better. Or even “DeGroot.” " [11/2/11].He wrote that when he runs a Brad/Toni arc the requests to see more of them spike, as well as requests for other characters, but having other characters share a larger part of the focus isn’t his purpose:.“…the strip IS called “Luann” – even though she may be (to some) the dullest title character in the comics.” [10/25/10]
Dude, I don’t know what’s blowing my mind more, your attitude that any opinions that aren’t 100% Evans-arsekissing or 100% loving the strip aren’t welcome here and, or that you hide behind “opinion” to do it. If you’re allowed to have an opinion like that, it’s more than a little ironic to say that others shoudn’t have the same right to theirs.
I’d far rather have clyde trolling around because when he used “of course, that’s just my opinion” you knew he was being a big fat phony.
Not everyone loves everything about anything, and they should be allowed to say that, and say why they don’t without being told to bugger off and go draw their own strip. There’s a good amount of criticism here from BillTheButcher, mojitobaby, “..” and even me. Not artist is perfect and we should be allowed to point out fhat the Emperor has no clothes on if we think that’s so.
You may feel this is the only way to be loyal to the strip and its creator, but from what I’ve read on his blog, Evans would definitely not agree.
The producers of Eyez saw the fireperson calendar and asked Toni to audition. She’s the uknown star to be. She’s a firefighter, in shape, with a shape. She’d be great advertisment.
I really miss Tiffany’s scheming. She was so out-and-out evil or entitled that it was mindboggling, but that was what was so fun about it, she never blinked. I revisited that bit where she video’d Luann in the locker room and then told her to turn over her A+ Moby Dick book report or it would go viral. I ask you guys, is there anything more perfectly vilanous than that blackmail scheme?
Now all she does is steam when she doesn’t get the lead or else go delusional to comfort herself. I miss Tiffany being in control of things!
Girls love to eat wraps. They think they are saving all of the calories from the bread. I’ve read the packages. One wrap has just as many calories as two pieces of bread.
Heck no, disagree with me all you like, I have no problem with that. What I don’t approve of is “we don’t like it, out it goes”. A lot of good things that don’t conform to the party line get tossed that way. Evans says he likes an open exchange of ideas, so do I.
There’s not a darn thing wrong with provocative criticism and having to defend your opinion if you disagree with someone makes you think about things. Most of the critiques I see here comes with some sort of decent reasoning attached. While one man’s “provocative” is another’s “inflammatory”, I think if you can back up your POV that’s not being inflammatory.
What is, is outright trolling, because there’s no validity in that, the posts are only there for shock value and the outrage they can generate. Comments that totally misrepresent the realities of the strip, deliberately lie about the facts, (even tho Evans has said what the facts are) – “Dirk was never abusive, he’s a good guy, it’s all in your minds” – that sort of stuff. That’s thrown out there for an obvious reason. It’s up to you to either flag it or ignore it.
“Disagreeable” – hmmm – that’s really subjective. There’s no “tone” on the net so sometimes it’s hard to tell whether someone’s being really factual or they’re flaming you. If no one’s calling me names, I’m assuming it’s the first.
BTW, I see now my comment could read as calling you a big fat phony – that was directed at clydefrog for that folksy “opinion” schtick he has, not at you. Hope you didn’t read it that way.
bikenboatn about 13 years ago
I’m not sure whether to laugh at her, or be sorry for her.
FatTonyBalducci about 13 years ago
And I’m Doubletree Cleveland!
FatTonyBalducci about 13 years ago
BikeNBoatN, your avatar scares me…….[uhoh]
DaJellyBelly about 13 years ago
That dude should have answered back. Yeah, well I’m Days Inn Hoboken! LOL
Hank1938 about 13 years ago
Best Western Dumas (Texas)
halestormstopper about 13 years ago
What one must realize is that Tiffany is currently achieving a feat once considered impossible: She’s making Michele Bachmann look smart.
bikenboatn about 13 years ago
Fat Tony, that avatar is Drusilla, from Pibgorn.
lilrabbit about 13 years ago
Hi, Sheraton, I’m Motel 6, North Platte
kfccanada about 13 years ago
@Jordan DeLoatch….that is soooo hillarious!
Rockabore about 13 years ago
Well today’s strip has very little to comment on, but I will say that that thing on the kid’s plate looks like a s’more and now I wish I had a s’more.
Professional Rookie about 13 years ago
I wonder if there will ever be a “reality crashing down upon her” strip.
wiselad about 13 years ago
hey Tiff!!!!!!!!!!! I can give you title to the Golden State Bridge, for only 7 thousand dollars
JerryTheK about 13 years ago
I like his Second bite Katups coming out of the bun.
JerryTheK about 13 years ago
They are in San Diego Ca.
tgilmorex about 13 years ago
I just had a crazy thought – what if Crystal got to be Zeye?? Wouldn’t that get Tiff in a knot!
Chuck373 about 13 years ago
I’ve seen that guy on TV before. But where is his banjo?
mojitobaby about 13 years ago
You aren’t that late, it happened back in 2006. What’s funny is that there really is a Sheraton St. Louis, I’ve stayed there.
Tiffany took the name when she entered the Miss Chamber of Commerce pageant. She claimed she could win as ‘Heidi Hanksnot’, but to do the crown justice she needed a “glitzier” name.
http://www.gocomics.com/luann/2006/03/22.What’s even funnier is that Luann and Bernice then suckered her into thinking Steven Speilberg was looking to cast her in his next film, then told her he’d cast Lucy Liu instead – this arc’s sort of a reprise of that one.
http://www.gocomics.com/luann/2006/07/08
ComicLaff about 13 years ago
Actually Crystal and Tiff are my favorite characters in the strip.
Bill the Butcher about 13 years ago
On a slightly more serious note, I guess we’ve all noticed that Luann (the character) is becoming a rather rare commodity on Luann (the strip). Formerly marginal characters are now jostling for centre-space. I don’t know if I’m wrong in saying that Luann, as a character, is more or less played out. She can’t really go further forward without entering adulthood, and that would pretty much leave the entire premise of this comic in the dust. Evans can’t have her graduating from school, moving away to college and so on; the strip is set in Pittsville and everyone must remain here, including Brad, which is why he isn’t going somewhere else for another position as a fireman. Not that I mind the marginal characters getting more attention, because I’ve always found people like Crystal or Knute more interesting than Luann or Brad; but Bernice and Delta are also doing the slow, steady vanishing act, aren’t they? I’m pretty sure Crystal’s now a more important character than Delta, and creeping up on Bernice.
Bill the Butcher about 13 years ago
About the strip, I think – from the total lack of motion on his part – that the guy IS struck speechless…that someone can have a name as ridiculous as that.
slug_queen about 13 years ago
Hi, Sheraton! I’m No-Tell Motel Boring Oregon! (Boring is a real place, BTW.)
Mordock999 about 13 years ago
Wow.Zippy the Pinhead had a kid and he goes to Pitts High.
Hey, and COFFEE left??
Mighty_Mouse about 13 years ago
Maybe she needs more Gusto®.
Sheriff Mordecai Premium Member about 13 years ago
Tiff’s brother must be the slick-skating Martin St. Louis from the Tampa Bay Lightning. Yes, I can see the family resemblance, but she ain’t got his moves. And he scores more.
imbaldeagle about 13 years ago
Ah, YESSSS! Brad’s younger brother – the one they never talk about.
TerBer about 13 years ago
In the musical Annie, didn’t Roosters girlfriend have a name like that? Her place of business I think.
imbaldeagle about 13 years ago
He’s been away at mime school and just returned.
poyer4230 about 13 years ago
Hey…I’ve stayed at the motel six in N Platte!
hwcrescent about 13 years ago
brad shaved his head?
been there about 13 years ago
Some people dont see a open hole till they fall in. An yes i been like this all my life.
Step-Step about 13 years ago
I know somebody like this. It’s not funny; it’s just sad.
Dragongirl2319 about 13 years ago
GO BACK TO TONI AND BRAD!!!!! Or at LEAST something with Luann!!
Dconskjk about 13 years ago
Tiff…I am so jealous of your happy, perky little world. It must be so safe and serene there.
ACTIVIST1234 about 13 years ago
She’s extreeeeeeme, but have you noticed how the rest of us also live in fantasy worlds? To some extent, we all see reality in a way that fits our own desires, or our preconceptions. Tiff = us.
dfowensby about 13 years ago
think about who “gave” her the name. i ran with a guythat nicknamed chicks the same way, based on location . none of them ever “got it” either.
ProfessorKid about 13 years ago
The guy heard her say: “Hi, I’m Sureashell SoClueless!” but was too polite to agree.
lance96816 about 13 years ago
Maybe she wants to be a Sheraton, but she be better to be a Farrells. www.farrellsusa.com/
lance96816 about 13 years ago
btw: I’m Trump Waikiki
chris_weaver about 13 years ago
That guy is clearly on the verge of begging ‘Sheraton’ for her autograph!
TlalocW about 13 years ago
I do magic and balloon twisting on the side, and Macy’s hired me to perform at their store in conjunction with a kids program they were doing. My first volunteer up on stage was a little girl whose name turned out to be Macy. I told her my name Was Dillard KMart.
Lady Nicole about 13 years ago
What a sad life she leads…
Popeyesforearm about 13 years ago
Motel 6 Boring (Oregon)
Sisyphos about 13 years ago
I was having computer woes last night and am late getting my dose of Luann (well, Crystal and Tiffany). Now, for some reason, I feel hungry….
mojitobaby about 13 years ago
I really think you misinterpreted Greg’s statement. Greg regrets naming the comic “Luann” because of the properties of the name itself, not because it’s not “more encompassing” or inclusive of other characters. .Greg stated in an LA Times interview awhile back that he strongly identitfies with Luann, especially now that she’s in high school, not with the others in her universe..“The name “Luann” occurred to me as I was driving around town and spotted a truck from a construction company called “Louetto.” Something about that name had the right clunky sound I was wanting for my title character. But “Louetto” sounded a bit Italian and too masculine so I massaged it into Luann. “DeGroot” was picked from a phone book. As a name for an average, clumpy dumpy teen, Luann DeGroot is fine. As the name of a comic strip, “Luann” is too slippery, hard to spell, tricky to pronounce and remember. “Zits” would have been much better. Or even “DeGroot.” " [11/2/11].He wrote that when he runs a Brad/Toni arc the requests to see more of them spike, as well as requests for other characters, but having other characters share a larger part of the focus isn’t his purpose:.“…the strip IS called “Luann” – even though she may be (to some) the dullest title character in the comics.” [10/25/10]
flashman.ace about 13 years ago
Just not enough to put down his hamburger. Or drink.
Dr Sheriff MB esq PhD DML about 13 years ago
pretty perky in panel 2…. hubba yubba
flashman.ace about 13 years ago
Dude, I don’t know what’s blowing my mind more, your attitude that any opinions that aren’t 100% Evans-arsekissing or 100% loving the strip aren’t welcome here and, or that you hide behind “opinion” to do it. If you’re allowed to have an opinion like that, it’s more than a little ironic to say that others shoudn’t have the same right to theirs.
I’d far rather have clyde trolling around because when he used “of course, that’s just my opinion” you knew he was being a big fat phony.
Not everyone loves everything about anything, and they should be allowed to say that, and say why they don’t without being told to bugger off and go draw their own strip. There’s a good amount of criticism here from BillTheButcher, mojitobaby, “..” and even me. Not artist is perfect and we should be allowed to point out fhat the Emperor has no clothes on if we think that’s so.
You may feel this is the only way to be loyal to the strip and its creator, but from what I’ve read on his blog, Evans would definitely not agree.
RBLawyer about 13 years ago
The producers of Eyez saw the fireperson calendar and asked Toni to audition. She’s the uknown star to be. She’s a firefighter, in shape, with a shape. She’d be great advertisment.
Tinyman about 13 years ago
It would be so crazy if it was the speechless guy
flashman.ace about 13 years ago
You’re right, she was January!
Gokie5 about 13 years ago
I like Luann fine – don’t think she is boring. She’s Everywoman (or Everyteen).
BillWa about 13 years ago
Tiff picked it as a stage name a few years ago. And Tiffany, welcome to Cluelessnessville, population YOU!
flashman.ace about 13 years ago
I really miss Tiffany’s scheming. She was so out-and-out evil or entitled that it was mindboggling, but that was what was so fun about it, she never blinked. I revisited that bit where she video’d Luann in the locker room and then told her to turn over her A+ Moby Dick book report or it would go viral. I ask you guys, is there anything more perfectly vilanous than that blackmail scheme?
Now all she does is steam when she doesn’t get the lead or else go delusional to comfort herself. I miss Tiffany being in control of things!
Chuck373 about 13 years ago
Girls love to eat wraps. They think they are saving all of the calories from the bread. I’ve read the packages. One wrap has just as many calories as two pieces of bread.
flashman.ace about 13 years ago
Heck no, disagree with me all you like, I have no problem with that. What I don’t approve of is “we don’t like it, out it goes”. A lot of good things that don’t conform to the party line get tossed that way. Evans says he likes an open exchange of ideas, so do I.
There’s not a darn thing wrong with provocative criticism and having to defend your opinion if you disagree with someone makes you think about things. Most of the critiques I see here comes with some sort of decent reasoning attached. While one man’s “provocative” is another’s “inflammatory”, I think if you can back up your POV that’s not being inflammatory.
What is, is outright trolling, because there’s no validity in that, the posts are only there for shock value and the outrage they can generate. Comments that totally misrepresent the realities of the strip, deliberately lie about the facts, (even tho Evans has said what the facts are) – “Dirk was never abusive, he’s a good guy, it’s all in your minds” – that sort of stuff. That’s thrown out there for an obvious reason. It’s up to you to either flag it or ignore it.
“Disagreeable” – hmmm – that’s really subjective. There’s no “tone” on the net so sometimes it’s hard to tell whether someone’s being really factual or they’re flaming you. If no one’s calling me names, I’m assuming it’s the first.
BTW, I see now my comment could read as calling you a big fat phony – that was directed at clydefrog for that folksy “opinion” schtick he has, not at you. Hope you didn’t read it that way.
darkbladepdx about 13 years ago
“Attack of the 50 ft. Ego”