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Arlo and Janis by Jimmy Johnson for April 20, 2016
April 19, 2016
April 21, 2016
Transcript:
Arlo: What is the difference in jam and jelly?
Janis: I'm not sure!
Arlo: Tsk, tsk! What would your old granny say?
Janis: That old bat can go suck eggs! She's dead anyway!
Arlo: I meant the granny you liked!
Janis: Oh! She didn't know either, I'll bet!
Jam is thicker. Jelly is ārunnierā.Ā Thatās because jam has more of the agent that thickens it, which usually is pectin, if I understand correctly.Ā Then there is marmalade, which I understand is made from fruits that are naturally rich in pectin, so no extra pectin is added. Thus you normally find marmalade made of citruses like oranges, since they have a lot of pectin in the rind. That is also why orange marmalade normally has little strips of orange peel in it.Ā I learned this when I first got to the US and couldnāt figure out (nor anyone could tell me) the difference between the three. In Spanish we call them all āmermeladaā and just complain about it having the wrong consistency.
Jelly is made from the Juice of the fruit only. No fruit pulp or body in the final result. Which is why most Jellies tend to be āsee throughā in small quantities. Jam is both juice and pulp and therefore thicker. Conserves have juice pulp and pieces of fruit in the final product.
Used to help my mother make all three types when I was a kid. Got to āPlayā with liquid parafin under very close supervision both for everyoneās safety and to keep stupid āguyā stuff from occurring.
It the last panel it appears that Janis has her trusty smart device in her hands and is about to see what the difference is. We should all know tomorrow.
I am not sure, but I believe that jam has pieces of the actual fruit in it, such as chunks of strawberries, blueberries, etc., while jelly is kind of like a thick Jello like substance, with only the flavor & color of the fruits.
In Britain and Australia, jam comes in a jar and is spread on bread. Jelly is a gelatine-based dessert for children. I thought that, since American singer Jelly Roll Morton used to sing āit must be jelly ācause jam donāt shake like thatā, it was the same in the USA. Then I lived there for a while and found out that Americans are totally confused about the matter. They have resorted to calling jelly āJelloā, after a brand name.
Robin Harwood āweāre not confused at allā¦we simply have different names for things in different parts of the world.When you buy a product in a jar, for instance, it is supposed to conform to the description of that termā¦. To expand on what Ken the C.D. saidā¦.In the US, ājellyā is a clear, sweet, spread usually made from fruit juice and sugarā¦. though it can be made from other things, like wine, vegetable juice, or liquid in which mint leaves, or other herbs, have been steeped.
āJamā is the most commonā¦. made from sugar and crushed or cut fruit, cooked till it all breaks down together.
āPreservesā are made with mostly whole fruit, cooked with sugar till the juices run out and the whole thing turns into a sort of jelly containing large pieces of fruit.
āMarmaladeā usually refers to a citrus jam containing the fruit peel along with the pulp, some water, and more sugar than jam made from soft fruits.āConserveā is usually similar to jam, but used as a condimentā¦ it may contain ingredients like dried fruits, cranberries, nuts or spices.
Some may be made with other sweeteners such as honey (which doesnāt set up well, in my experience) or artificial sweeteners.The stuff called ājellyā in the UK and Oz was never called that hereā¦ it was called gelatine dessertā¦but the Jello brand is very old, and the name, to their chagrin, caught on long ago as a generic termā¦much like ākleenexā and āscotch tape.ā
In Britain, a similarly co-opted brand name is biroā¦ most Americans wouldnāt know what is meant by it.
Dr. McCoy, thanks for the reminder of āJam Up and Jelly Tightāā¦I have no idea what it means, but I remember itā¦And didnāt Tommy Roe also do āOh, Sweet Peaā?
CharlieGirlā¦ thanksā¦. and youāre welcome, Sue Lester.
While I_do_ look up a lot of things on my computer and my smartphone, I didnāt so it this timeā¦I wrote what I know, from years of eating and making those thingsā¦and from when I used to volunteer at the County Fair, and sometimes watched the judging.
A biro is what we call a ballpoint in the USā¦.but we donāt use that word.An English friend many years ago got annoyed with me, when he wanted to borrow a biro and I said I didnāt know what that wasā¦. He thought I was being disingenuous, so I wouldnāt have to lend one.
Bill Spencerā¦ in some parts of the (mostly Southern) US and Mexico any soft drink is called a Cokeā¦then youāre asked what kind of Coke youād like, ie, Coke, Dr. Pepper, Orange soda?
Sure, itās wrongā¦. but itās also wrong to call all cellophane tape Scotch tape but we all do it. āWhat brand of kleenex do you buy?ā
Varnes, if you like pea soup, and I doā¦.start with a ham bone and some onions, and NOT so much water you dilute the flavorā¦add some peeled carrots and dried peas and itās hard to go wrong. Add more ham chunks laterā¦ along with salt and pepper and whatever spices you like in it, like a bay leaf. Personally I like it pretty plainā¦ā¦.. maybe a bit of garlic.
The secret is in not trying to make 2 gallons of soup from one bone.
Why did no one mention preserves? Unless itās the same as conserves but not quite as thick, perhaps? Preserves is made with pieces of cut up fruit, such as peach, pear, or apricot.
Thank you Susanā¦..Carrots, huh? I never would have thought of thatā¦..Charlie girl, I freezes wellā¦ā¦.Sir Make-a-lot and Ms. Freeze-a-lot ride togetherā¦..hippogriff, chesterfield?
Strod almost 9 years ago
Jam is thicker. Jelly is ārunnierā.Ā Thatās because jam has more of the agent that thickens it, which usually is pectin, if I understand correctly.Ā Then there is marmalade, which I understand is made from fruits that are naturally rich in pectin, so no extra pectin is added. Thus you normally find marmalade made of citruses like oranges, since they have a lot of pectin in the rind. That is also why orange marmalade normally has little strips of orange peel in it.Ā I learned this when I first got to the US and couldnāt figure out (nor anyone could tell me) the difference between the three. In Spanish we call them all āmermeladaā and just complain about it having the wrong consistency.
KenTheCoffinDweller almost 9 years ago
Jelly is made from the Juice of the fruit only. No fruit pulp or body in the final result. Which is why most Jellies tend to be āsee throughā in small quantities. Jam is both juice and pulp and therefore thicker. Conserves have juice pulp and pieces of fruit in the final product.
Used to help my mother make all three types when I was a kid. Got to āPlayā with liquid parafin under very close supervision both for everyoneās safety and to keep stupid āguyā stuff from occurring.
ralphyork666 almost 9 years ago
It the last panel it appears that Janis has her trusty smart device in her hands and is about to see what the difference is. We should all know tomorrow.
LuvThemPluggers almost 9 years ago
We begged to eat the fpurple foam off the top when Mom made grape jelly and she swore it would kill us. Was olā mom lyinā to us?
charliefarmrhere almost 9 years ago
I am not sure, but I believe that jam has pieces of the actual fruit in it, such as chunks of strawberries, blueberries, etc., while jelly is kind of like a thick Jello like substance, with only the flavor & color of the fruits.
RH3 almost 9 years ago
In Britain and Australia, jam comes in a jar and is spread on bread. Jelly is a gelatine-based dessert for children. I thought that, since American singer Jelly Roll Morton used to sing āit must be jelly ācause jam donāt shake like thatā, it was the same in the USA. Then I lived there for a while and found out that Americans are totally confused about the matter. They have resorted to calling jelly āJelloā, after a brand name.
SusanSunshine Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Robin Harwood āweāre not confused at allā¦we simply have different names for things in different parts of the world.When you buy a product in a jar, for instance, it is supposed to conform to the description of that termā¦. To expand on what Ken the C.D. saidā¦.In the US, ājellyā is a clear, sweet, spread usually made from fruit juice and sugarā¦. though it can be made from other things, like wine, vegetable juice, or liquid in which mint leaves, or other herbs, have been steeped.
āJamā is the most commonā¦. made from sugar and crushed or cut fruit, cooked till it all breaks down together.
āPreservesā are made with mostly whole fruit, cooked with sugar till the juices run out and the whole thing turns into a sort of jelly containing large pieces of fruit.
āMarmaladeā usually refers to a citrus jam containing the fruit peel along with the pulp, some water, and more sugar than jam made from soft fruits.āConserveā is usually similar to jam, but used as a condimentā¦ it may contain ingredients like dried fruits, cranberries, nuts or spices.
Some may be made with other sweeteners such as honey (which doesnāt set up well, in my experience) or artificial sweeteners.The stuff called ājellyā in the UK and Oz was never called that hereā¦ it was called gelatine dessertā¦but the Jello brand is very old, and the name, to their chagrin, caught on long ago as a generic termā¦much like ākleenexā and āscotch tape.ā
In Britain, a similarly co-opted brand name is biroā¦ most Americans wouldnāt know what is meant by it.
Varnes almost 9 years ago
OK, Susan, Iāll biteā¦What is a biro?
OK, and what is the difference between a couch, a sofa and a davenport?
Varnes almost 9 years ago
Dr. McCoy, thanks for the reminder of āJam Up and Jelly Tightāā¦I have no idea what it means, but I remember itā¦And didnāt Tommy Roe also do āOh, Sweet Peaā?
Varnes almost 9 years ago
I like this Janisā¦.I wonder if she has a good pea soup recipe?
DDrazen almost 9 years ago
I wanted to take a stab at making homemade jelly/jam/preserves, but the amount of sugar going in turned me off to the idea.
Nicole ā« ā±āæ āāæāāæā°ā« Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Jam has chunks of fruit and jelly is smooth without any pieces of fruit. Go to the jelly/jam aisle of the store and have a look-see.
nosirrom almost 9 years ago
Maybe Janis should get cooking and serve Arlo some of her sweet jelly roll.
QuietStorm27 almost 9 years ago
The way my kids understand it is that jam spreads easily, jelly does not. Most of them liked jelly because you end up with more on the bread.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member almost 9 years ago
For me, Janusā statement about her (deceased) grandmother seems overly harsh and atypical for Janus.
assrdood almost 9 years ago
On the Davenport-sofa-couch thingā¦ā¦..My grandparents referred to it as the āDivanā. This was back in the 50s-60s
Ina Tizzy almost 9 years ago
Iād like to know if the grandmother Janis disliked was her maternal or paternal grandmother and what she did that caused Janis to dislike her.
katzenbooks45 almost 9 years ago
Thereās a southern expression, āMust be jam ācause jelly donāt shake like that!ā.
Happy, happy, happy!!! Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Jam is made from whole fruit.Jelly is made from the juice.
3pibgorn9 almost 9 years ago
Who doesnāt know that?
Flatlander, purveyor of fine covfefe almost 9 years ago
Jam is in the jars marked jam, Jelly in in the jars marked. Jelly is usually kept near the peanut butter but no where near pea soup.
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Sorryā¦. I have accidentally typed her name incorrectly before. I did, of course, mean āJanisā not Janus. My apologies.
locake almost 9 years ago
I answered this question yesterday, before it was asked.
hippogriff almost 9 years ago
VarnesAnd to prove I am fluent in Canadian, you left out chesterfield.
Mema Jean almost 9 years ago
Oh my. Childhood drama creeping up.
Varnes almost 9 years ago
Daniā¦Thanks for the recipe butā¦ā¦.Whereās the ham? Pea soup needs lots of ham chunks in it!
ellisaana, yup, a ham bone is a good startā¦..But the more ham the betterā¦..MORE PIG BELL!ā¦ā¦..
Reppr Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Answers here: http://blog.madisonseating.com/furniture/know-your-furniture-sofa-loveseat-divan-or-canape.html
SusanSunshine Premium Member almost 9 years ago
CharlieGirlā¦ thanksā¦. and youāre welcome, Sue Lester.
While I_do_ look up a lot of things on my computer and my smartphone, I didnāt so it this timeā¦I wrote what I know, from years of eating and making those thingsā¦and from when I used to volunteer at the County Fair, and sometimes watched the judging.
A biro is what we call a ballpoint in the USā¦.but we donāt use that word.An English friend many years ago got annoyed with me, when he wanted to borrow a biro and I said I didnāt know what that wasā¦. He thought I was being disingenuous, so I wouldnāt have to lend one.
Bill Spencerā¦ in some parts of the (mostly Southern) US and Mexico any soft drink is called a Cokeā¦then youāre asked what kind of Coke youād like, ie, Coke, Dr. Pepper, Orange soda?
Sure, itās wrongā¦. but itās also wrong to call all cellophane tape Scotch tape but we all do it. āWhat brand of kleenex do you buy?ā
Varnes, if you like pea soup, and I doā¦.start with a ham bone and some onions, and NOT so much water you dilute the flavorā¦add some peeled carrots and dried peas and itās hard to go wrong. Add more ham chunks laterā¦ along with salt and pepper and whatever spices you like in it, like a bay leaf. Personally I like it pretty plainā¦ā¦.. maybe a bit of garlic.
The secret is in not trying to make 2 gallons of soup from one bone.
amber71 almost 9 years ago
Why did no one mention preserves? Unless itās the same as conserves but not quite as thick, perhaps? Preserves is made with pieces of cut up fruit, such as peach, pear, or apricot.
Varnes almost 9 years ago
Thank you Susanā¦..Carrots, huh? I never would have thought of thatā¦..Charlie girl, I freezes wellā¦ā¦.Sir Make-a-lot and Ms. Freeze-a-lot ride togetherā¦..hippogriff, chesterfield?
hippogriff almost 9 years ago
VarnesAs I said, Canadian. In fact, it is the only name for that piece of furniture I ever heard when I lived in Vancouver in the 1970s.