I can never remember the first of a pair of limericks on this subject that I read in an old paperback on cosmology, but I do remember the second precisely:
Dear Sir, your astonishment’s odd;
I am always about in the Quad,
And that’s why this tree
Will continue to be,
Since observed by Yours Faithfully, GOD!
(Life is just so much easier on so many levels when you’re a robust theist….)
Sysyphos: I take your comment as irony since you probably realize there is nothing simple-minded about Aristotle. One of the greatest minds in history, the first biologist, the codifier of the laws of logic, and IMO virtually the founder of Western civilization.
Johanan: Sounds like Berkeley’s answer to Hume’s skepticism. But Berkeley was a bishop, so whaddaya expect?
Karma: Stop torturing yourself with idle speculations you really don’t believe. If you doubted for a moment your home ceases to exist when you leave it, you never would. Even Hume admitted that nothing he ever wrote should prevent someone from stepping out of the way of a runaway carriage.
One of the questions that Schrodinger and other quantum theorists have never been able to answer is what exactly constitutes an observer.
Which leaves us with this conundrum: does the observer continue to exist when nobody is looking? Even, when, say, the observer is unconscious? How do we know?
The clerk’s rebuttal of Bishop George Berkeley’s solipsism: a swift kick in the shins. [In our more extreme times, I suppose it would have been a kick in the oompa loompas….]
WoodEye almost 15 years ago
Cool! Her shadow in front of her disappears when she turns back.
Sisyphos almost 15 years ago
Way too Platonic for a simple-minded Aristotelean like me!
Rakkav almost 15 years ago
I can never remember the first of a pair of limericks on this subject that I read in an old paperback on cosmology, but I do remember the second precisely:
Dear Sir, your astonishment’s odd; I am always about in the Quad, And that’s why this tree Will continue to be, Since observed by Yours Faithfully, GOD!
(Life is just so much easier on so many levels when you’re a robust theist….)
Hugh B. Hayve almost 15 years ago
I played one of my old Black Sabbath vinyl records backwards at 78 speed and saw God.
pschearer Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Sysyphos: I take your comment as irony since you probably realize there is nothing simple-minded about Aristotle. One of the greatest minds in history, the first biologist, the codifier of the laws of logic, and IMO virtually the founder of Western civilization.
Johanan: Sounds like Berkeley’s answer to Hume’s skepticism. But Berkeley was a bishop, so whaddaya expect?
Karma: Stop torturing yourself with idle speculations you really don’t believe. If you doubted for a moment your home ceases to exist when you leave it, you never would. Even Hume admitted that nothing he ever wrote should prevent someone from stepping out of the way of a runaway carriage.
Nebulous Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Does the image of the comic still exist when you scroll down to make a comment?
Plods with ...™ almost 15 years ago
No
mntim almost 15 years ago
I have a feeling none of this would happen to Boody.
How does that old song go?
As I was climbing up the stair I met a man who wasn’t there. He wasn’t there again today. I really wish he would go away.
phaze58 almost 15 years ago
Whoh This is to existential for me !
ChiehHsia almost 15 years ago
Go kick a big rock, but put on your steel toed boots first.
bmonk almost 15 years ago
One of the questions that Schrodinger and other quantum theorists have never been able to answer is what exactly constitutes an observer.
Which leaves us with this conundrum: does the observer continue to exist when nobody is looking? Even, when, say, the observer is unconscious? How do we know?
Does Karma exist when we don’t see her?
Sisyphos almost 15 years ago
The clerk’s rebuttal of Bishop George Berkeley’s solipsism: a swift kick in the shins. [In our more extreme times, I suppose it would have been a kick in the oompa loompas….]
ChukLitl Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Tree rings are caused by cutting or breaking. They’re never seen in undamaged trees.
Coyoty Premium Member almost 15 years ago
It doesn’t really exist. She’s being bamboozled.
bmonk almost 15 years ago
ChukLitl–I’ve never heard a tree ring. Some have creaked, or snapped, but never ring.
Mythfan Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Perhaps Karma is asleep, and this is her dream.
Justjoust Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Yes and no…
puddleglum1066 almost 15 years ago
Actually, it’s all there when she’s not looking; it just doesn’t go to the bother of reflecting light.