fredville said, about 5 hours ago…have no idea why they had to bomb BOTH Hiroshima and Nagasaki…….one time would’ve proved we had the A-bomb. (of course, after reading “The Nanking Massacre” my sympathy lessens considerably towards the Japanese)^^Why were both bombs dropped? The real question is why were either of them dropped? The answer, Japanese civilians were used as human “Guinea Pigs”!The truth is, that Japan had already offered to surrender, on one condition, the retention of the Japanese Monarchy; the Americans answered that this was unacceptable, and that they would only accept “unconditional surrender”; with that, Truman authorised the dropping of the bomb “Little Boy” at Hiroshima; then, a few days later another atomic bomb , with a different configuration, the much more rounded “Fat Man”, was dropped on Nagasaki…Why was the 2nd bomb dropped? The answer is because the American scientists needed human subjects to determine which bomb would be the most EFFECTIVE of the two configurations. Within the first two to four months of the bombings, the acute effects killed 90,000–166,000 people in Hiroshima and 60,000–80,000 in Nagasaki, with roughly half of the deaths in each city occurring on the first day. This gave US scientists a large number of victims to study; especially where the effects of radiation were concerned.By now, you are wondering WHY I consider the atomic bombs dropped on Japan were an unnecessary WAR CRIME; the answer? When the peace treaty with Japan was signed, the one concession given to Japan was the RETENTION OF THE JAPANESE MONARCHY, the very excuse given, by the USA, for not accepting the Japanese offer of surrender BEFORE the bombs were dropped!
Tarry, I watched that video this morning, what a beautifully researched and well written essay; while it was kind of strange to have it presented by an animated kitty who sounds like a 12 yrd old girl, I found it both fascinating and insightful! Even as a Canadian, I got a lot out of it, as it used the American annexation of Hawaii as an example of Imperialism and it’s nasty effects, throughout history, the world over.
As for the retention of the Emperor, he was originally—and rightly, I believe—seen as an active partcipant in the Japanese government. Two factors changed our decision to tolerate his continued, deplorable, existence. One, he was a useful tool; with him in our pocket, we could quash any would-be junta that might continue the war. Also, President Truman decided that removing him wasn’t worth sacrificing any American lives.
Thanks Tarry for pointing out my spelling error. MY bad. Now, I think it’s time to show what George Takei thinks about the NDAA act. This is from a recent interview with the Arkansas Times:
AT: Why is it important for us to remember the internment camps?
GT: “The real victim was the U.S. Constitution. That was the thing that was most violated. A few months ago, President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act, which has a clause in it that still allows the president to detain American citizens without charge, without trial, with no due process. When President Obama signed it, he said he doesn’t intend to use it, but it’s there on the books and can be used again.”
George added how it’s already been used against the Arab American community. My point is it can be used against you, me, ALL Americans. Good for you Tarry, for looking it up.
New information, I think, that the mysterious metal box was in fact buried under the first barracks (the one in which George’s family was housed). That makes his remembrances a little more pertinent!
If I could be time-warped back to the Potsdam conference and get President Truman’s attention, I would have sided with Admiral Leahy, who opposed making war on women and children and considered the A-bomb barbarous. I would have advised Truman to make the terms of surrender clear and to let them keep their damned Emperor. Truman’s reasons for going ahead with the bombing—well, he was the one stuck with the decision, and unfortunately he can’t have the benefit of my wisdom.
I download the Sunday strips and can tell you that the missing strips here usually show up eventually. I think the last time this happened it didn’t get added for over a week. As i recall, a missing Sunday never materialized only once. I prefer the black and white dailies so I collect those at ComicStripNation. They can sometimes fall behind a couple days.
Thank ALL of you for contributing to the history lesson. The detail you conveyed isn’t taught in today’s schoolbooks. What I discovered yesterday is more troubling than the sordid history, however. That is the NDAA act that is the law of the land now. That ought to scare the heck outta ANY American! If that isn’t a step backwards to the 1940’s, nothing will.
Also, just how did DT know George was in the first baracks?
@morrow, everyone I talked to, both Republican and Democrat, were vocally protesting the NDAA. No one was for it – except the elite. Obama may have been eager to sign it, but a Republican House passed it. I saw just as much protest on the huffington post as on right wing sites.
The decision to study radiation effects among the survivors was made after the bombings.^^Right, as soon as the peace treaty was signed… and how is comparing the lie about the so-called reason for the dropping of the atom bomb to the lie the Nazis used to begin the invasion of Poland, which led to the all-out WW “Beneath contempt”? In both cases, they were Gvmt lies to cover up the truth about despicable acts done in the name of the people of the respective countries!
Well, besides insulting the strip and art, arguing with Otto, specifically? Anyway , i’m pretty sure you know what I’m saying… so, now you and Otto kiss, and makeup , :p
What is going on with that fork in Dick’s hand in the first panel? NOBODY holds a fork like that. Very, very POOR artwork today!^^The hand is fine, but, the fork is upside down, for some reason… oh well
All I’m doing is treating them the way many treated Locher.^^But, the difference is, Locher was a terrible Dick Tracy artist who deserved all the critisismNow, on the other hand, his messy blocky art is perfectly fine for a political cartoon, where everyone is being topical, and is expected to do the art overnight, so as not to be too dated, but, for a daily adventure strip; he simply wasn’t good enough
Aha! (I beat Sydney to the punch on this one!) SDM, by your own admission that back when (yesteryear) that your voice was one of many. But (sigh),I don’t remember your being a poster then. I DO remember that scoundrel, Mattie – no, Matthew, was Locher’s one man fan club, though! Could it be???? Noooo way……! I shouldn’t let my imagination roam!
Sorry, I have to agree with SDM….compared with all of Mikes other stories, anyways, this one IS kind of……sorry, less exciting. It’s not like a murderer from way back then is going to be still around, or if he or she is, they will be a doddering senior citizen…..hardly anybody scary. I mean, why even waste police resources on it even? Also, while it is easy to keep pretending Dick Tracy is the same age, as well as all the others, having George appear an age where he would absolutely have not been born yet during the internments is ridiculous…..they should have had him appear 75 or so which he is…..age isn’t a character deficiency…lets see, I want to fit this into one or two posts today, so also, Mikey, yeah, I always felt they didn’t need to bomb either myself…..a barren area would have proved the point.
Also, where exactly was George able to legally wed Brad and have him as his “husband”? And how is this integral to the plot? I’m not anti-gay or anything, it just seems there’s a couple of agendas contained in this story that go beyond the story. Oh well, Mole and Toad keep the plot fires burning…..
Well there you go again, coming to the defence of one whose likeness you used to launch attacks on the current Team. MPH would be proud of you. And sorry, the little wining piece about ‘Poor Old Man’ sounds so familiar.
Why would you equate admiration for quality work here, to readers being afraid ? Afraid of what ?So must we think there is only on ’ brave ’ man around here ?
And congratulations ! You’ve come a long way with that admission in the first line on DL’s work, What’s it ? - - " PRETTY AWFUL " Be careful ! Very careful . . . The Red carpet might not be at the front door – the next time you’re in Naperville ! ? ;-)
SCOTTtheBADGER almost 12 years ago
Has Richard checked to see if a murder took place at the camp during the time indicated?
margueritem almost 12 years ago
I hope that George can help!
60sFan almost 12 years ago
I can’t believe the Sunday strip is still missing. Again.
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
MMMMMM , I love broccoli!
BellsAndMotley almost 12 years ago
What happened yesterday??? I’m so confused. . . .
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
Left over from Yesterday….
fredville said, about 5 hours ago…have no idea why they had to bomb BOTH Hiroshima and Nagasaki…….one time would’ve proved we had the A-bomb. (of course, after reading “The Nanking Massacre” my sympathy lessens considerably towards the Japanese)^^Why were both bombs dropped? The real question is why were either of them dropped? The answer, Japanese civilians were used as human “Guinea Pigs”!The truth is, that Japan had already offered to surrender, on one condition, the retention of the Japanese Monarchy; the Americans answered that this was unacceptable, and that they would only accept “unconditional surrender”; with that, Truman authorised the dropping of the bomb “Little Boy” at Hiroshima; then, a few days later another atomic bomb , with a different configuration, the much more rounded “Fat Man”, was dropped on Nagasaki…Why was the 2nd bomb dropped? The answer is because the American scientists needed human subjects to determine which bomb would be the most EFFECTIVE of the two configurations. Within the first two to four months of the bombings, the acute effects killed 90,000–166,000 people in Hiroshima and 60,000–80,000 in Nagasaki, with roughly half of the deaths in each city occurring on the first day. This gave US scientists a large number of victims to study; especially where the effects of radiation were concerned.By now, you are wondering WHY I consider the atomic bombs dropped on Japan were an unnecessary WAR CRIME; the answer? When the peace treaty with Japan was signed, the one concession given to Japan was the RETENTION OF THE JAPANESE MONARCHY, the very excuse given, by the USA, for not accepting the Japanese offer of surrender BEFORE the bombs were dropped!
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
Tarry, I watched that video this morning, what a beautifully researched and well written essay; while it was kind of strange to have it presented by an animated kitty who sounds like a 12 yrd old girl, I found it both fascinating and insightful! Even as a Canadian, I got a lot out of it, as it used the American annexation of Hawaii as an example of Imperialism and it’s nasty effects, throughout history, the world over.
Bill Thompson almost 12 years ago
As for the retention of the Emperor, he was originally—and rightly, I believe—seen as an active partcipant in the Japanese government. Two factors changed our decision to tolerate his continued, deplorable, existence. One, he was a useful tool; with him in our pocket, we could quash any would-be junta that might continue the war. Also, President Truman decided that removing him wasn’t worth sacrificing any American lives.
coldsooner almost 12 years ago
Thanks Tarry for pointing out my spelling error. MY bad. Now, I think it’s time to show what George Takei thinks about the NDAA act. This is from a recent interview with the Arkansas Times:
AT: Why is it important for us to remember the internment camps?
GT: “The real victim was the U.S. Constitution. That was the thing that was most violated. A few months ago, President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act, which has a clause in it that still allows the president to detain American citizens without charge, without trial, with no due process. When President Obama signed it, he said he doesn’t intend to use it, but it’s there on the books and can be used again.”
George added how it’s already been used against the Arab American community. My point is it can be used against you, me, ALL Americans. Good for you Tarry, for looking it up.
Sisyphos almost 12 years ago
New information, I think, that the mysterious metal box was in fact buried under the first barracks (the one in which George’s family was housed). That makes his remembrances a little more pertinent!
Bill Thompson almost 12 years ago
If I could be time-warped back to the Potsdam conference and get President Truman’s attention, I would have sided with Admiral Leahy, who opposed making war on women and children and considered the A-bomb barbarous. I would have advised Truman to make the terms of surrender clear and to let them keep their damned Emperor. Truman’s reasons for going ahead with the bombing—well, he was the one stuck with the decision, and unfortunately he can’t have the benefit of my wisdom.
coratelli almost 12 years ago
This storyline it’s exciting!!
Blackthorne42 almost 12 years ago
Thanks for the Sunday print, Tarry. Do you happen to know why GoComics skips certain Sunday strips? Is it a content issue, or something?
Mdstudio almost 12 years ago
I download the Sunday strips and can tell you that the missing strips here usually show up eventually. I think the last time this happened it didn’t get added for over a week. As i recall, a missing Sunday never materialized only once. I prefer the black and white dailies so I collect those at ComicStripNation. They can sometimes fall behind a couple days.
Morrow Cummings almost 12 years ago
Thank ALL of you for contributing to the history lesson. The detail you conveyed isn’t taught in today’s schoolbooks. What I discovered yesterday is more troubling than the sordid history, however. That is the NDAA act that is the law of the land now. That ought to scare the heck outta ANY American! If that isn’t a step backwards to the 1940’s, nothing will.
Also, just how did DT know George was in the first baracks?
Vista Bill Raley and Comet™ almost 12 years ago
Good morning all…
stuart almost 12 years ago
@morrow, everyone I talked to, both Republican and Democrat, were vocally protesting the NDAA. No one was for it – except the elite. Obama may have been eager to sign it, but a Republican House passed it. I saw just as much protest on the huffington post as on right wing sites.
jaxflash almost 12 years ago
Thanks!
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
Mikeyj said, less than a minute ago
@BillThompson
The decision to study radiation effects among the survivors was made after the bombings.^^Right, as soon as the peace treaty was signed… and how is comparing the lie about the so-called reason for the dropping of the atom bomb to the lie the Nazis used to begin the invasion of Poland, which led to the all-out WW “Beneath contempt”? In both cases, they were Gvmt lies to cover up the truth about despicable acts done in the name of the people of the respective countries!
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
Otto & SDM…. please do not revert to your old habits, you’ve both been so pleasant to have around lately, so, don’t spoil it guys!
tsull2121 almost 12 years ago
gweedo, maybe its the GARNISH…. NOBODY eats that stuff! lol
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
Well, besides insulting the strip and art, arguing with Otto, specifically? Anyway , i’m pretty sure you know what I’m saying… so, now you and Otto kiss, and makeup , :p
SYDNEY PHILLIPS almost 12 years ago
Heck !
Where were you when Dicky Locher was around drawing TINY hands ? You could have had a field day.
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
You’re replying to Still Da Man!’s comment:
What is going on with that fork in Dick’s hand in the first panel? NOBODY holds a fork like that. Very, very POOR artwork today!^^The hand is fine, but, the fork is upside down, for some reason… oh well
Mikeyj almost 12 years ago
@Still Da Man!
All I’m doing is treating them the way many treated Locher.^^But, the difference is, Locher was a terrible Dick Tracy artist who deserved all the critisismNow, on the other hand, his messy blocky art is perfectly fine for a political cartoon, where everyone is being topical, and is expected to do the art overnight, so as not to be too dated, but, for a daily adventure strip; he simply wasn’t good enough
Morrow Cummings almost 12 years ago
Aha! (I beat Sydney to the punch on this one!) SDM, by your own admission that back when (yesteryear) that your voice was one of many. But (sigh),I don’t remember your being a poster then. I DO remember that scoundrel, Mattie – no, Matthew, was Locher’s one man fan club, though! Could it be???? Noooo way……! I shouldn’t let my imagination roam!
Ray Toler almost 12 years ago
Gordon Ramsey holds his fork upside down.
fredville almost 12 years ago
Sorry, I have to agree with SDM….compared with all of Mikes other stories, anyways, this one IS kind of……sorry, less exciting. It’s not like a murderer from way back then is going to be still around, or if he or she is, they will be a doddering senior citizen…..hardly anybody scary. I mean, why even waste police resources on it even? Also, while it is easy to keep pretending Dick Tracy is the same age, as well as all the others, having George appear an age where he would absolutely have not been born yet during the internments is ridiculous…..they should have had him appear 75 or so which he is…..age isn’t a character deficiency…lets see, I want to fit this into one or two posts today, so also, Mikey, yeah, I always felt they didn’t need to bomb either myself…..a barren area would have proved the point.
fredville almost 12 years ago
Also, where exactly was George able to legally wed Brad and have him as his “husband”? And how is this integral to the plot? I’m not anti-gay or anything, it just seems there’s a couple of agendas contained in this story that go beyond the story. Oh well, Mole and Toad keep the plot fires burning…..
SYDNEY PHILLIPS almost 12 years ago
Well there you go again, coming to the defence of one whose likeness you used to launch attacks on the current Team. MPH would be proud of you. And sorry, the little wining piece about ‘Poor Old Man’ sounds so familiar.
Why would you equate admiration for quality work here, to readers being afraid ? Afraid of what ?So must we think there is only on ’ brave ’ man around here ?
And congratulations ! You’ve come a long way with that admission in the first line on DL’s work, What’s it ? - - " PRETTY AWFUL " Be careful ! Very careful . . . The Red carpet might not be at the front door – the next time you’re in Naperville ! ? ;-)