We already have enough children voting. Some people don’t understand that their actions have consequences and even the best of good intentions don’t always turn out for the best. I tell my students that they think we old folks don’t remember what it was like to be their age, when in fact we remember all too well, which is why we keep trying to warn them.
Same reason kids don’t get to decide which jobs the parents work at, where they live, and numerous other things that will affect their future: Inexperience and mental/emotional immaturity. Is that question really so hard??? It looks like Jef is trying to make the case for lowering the voting age lowered into the raging hormones demographic.
If all child citizens where allowed to vote independently it’d mean an increase of maybe 15% in the number of possible voters. The great majority wouldn’t bother, as it is with young adults (only 1 in 5 does vote in the US). And most wouldn’t vote differently from their parents.
So it wouldn’t change the situation much regarding the outcome of elections.But it’d change the value of citizenship.
@themcchuck: Young children generally are more trusting, less twisted from biased info, and somewhat more altruistic than their parents, when it comes to how others are treated. They might vote from the heart on issues of what’s fair and right for all. But, as they are never asked for or encouraged to give their opinions, they must suffer the fallout from the current disastrous negativism flowing from every adult forum now crying for votes.
I’ll answer that one. It’s because children only know having important things done for them. In the world of adults, better decisions are made by those that must do for themselves.
When I was growing up in an urban hippie commune (1960s-70s), we young’uns formed “Kids’ Lib” and, because it was our house too, petitioned for equal voting rights in household matters. We got it — but also got added to the chores rotation: cooking, common-areas cleaning, yard work. Fair enough, as it was our house too.
Many years ago, my news editor explained how it works. “In a democracy, every politician, from the day he takes office, has just one job,” he said: “To get re-elected.” He did not assign blame. He had started his career in photo, and he kept to the photojournalist’s creed, “I don’t take sides, I take pictures.” He wasn’t even about to say whether it was a good thing or a bad thing. Indeed, it could be either. It was just important to know when covering politics. And when voting.
I’ve watched Dennis’ picture of how democracy works merge seamlessly with the modern intensification of short-term thinking. And I’ve watched that short-term thinking mesh all too well with me-first thinking. And then I’ve watched that thinking crowd out critical thinking.
Unlike Dennis, I don’t take pictures. I draw pictures. And there’s no cartoonist’s creed that begins with “I don’t draw conclusions,” so I draw them a lot and they’re not always conventional. I conclude that if we’re going to have a minimum age to vote and to hold office, then we should have a maximum age, so that people should have to live to see some of the long-term consequences of what they bring about.
But back to the politicians and their #1 job. It makes the voters the grown-ups in the room. Maybe we need to think a little less like grown-ups.
whahoppened about 6 years ago
Meh, a few years it’ll all get overturned.
Kim Metzger Premium Member about 6 years ago
Why am I suddenly flashing on “Wild in the Streets?”
asrialfeeple about 6 years ago
“We don’t inherit the planet from our parents. We borrow it from our children.” I just hope they won’t hate us to much.
drogers30 about 6 years ago
For once he has a question which is not rhetorical
Deezlebird about 6 years ago
We already have enough children voting. Some people don’t understand that their actions have consequences and even the best of good intentions don’t always turn out for the best. I tell my students that they think we old folks don’t remember what it was like to be their age, when in fact we remember all too well, which is why we keep trying to warn them.
jamesbachreeves about 6 years ago
Same reason kids don’t get to decide which jobs the parents work at, where they live, and numerous other things that will affect their future: Inexperience and mental/emotional immaturity. Is that question really so hard??? It looks like Jef is trying to make the case for lowering the voting age lowered into the raging hormones demographic.
unfair.de about 6 years ago
If all child citizens where allowed to vote independently it’d mean an increase of maybe 15% in the number of possible voters. The great majority wouldn’t bother, as it is with young adults (only 1 in 5 does vote in the US). And most wouldn’t vote differently from their parents.
So it wouldn’t change the situation much regarding the outcome of elections.But it’d change the value of citizenship.
sandpiper about 6 years ago
@themcchuck: Young children generally are more trusting, less twisted from biased info, and somewhat more altruistic than their parents, when it comes to how others are treated. They might vote from the heart on issues of what’s fair and right for all. But, as they are never asked for or encouraged to give their opinions, they must suffer the fallout from the current disastrous negativism flowing from every adult forum now crying for votes.
Frazz is right
dwane.scoty1 about 6 years ago
The Nations Debt is an impending disaster apparently no one wants to face! It’s not even on the big problem list to most pollees!
Rabies65 about 6 years ago
In a related question, why do voters fill Congress with old people who won’t be around to see the aftermath, 20 years down the road?
brianbeattie about 6 years ago
I’ll answer that one. It’s because children only know having important things done for them. In the world of adults, better decisions are made by those that must do for themselves.
Bill The Nuke about 6 years ago
Oh, the answer to that one is easy. Except when adults keep acting like little children.
kunddog about 6 years ago
If everyone could vote, no school
bobdingus about 6 years ago
I sincerely believe that anyone without descendants should not be allowed to vote.
krunchykitty about 6 years ago
When I was growing up in an urban hippie commune (1960s-70s), we young’uns formed “Kids’ Lib” and, because it was our house too, petitioned for equal voting rights in household matters. We got it — but also got added to the chores rotation: cooking, common-areas cleaning, yard work. Fair enough, as it was our house too.
Stephen Gilberg about 6 years ago
For the same reason kids are barred from all sorts of activities: They’re presumed incompetent.
whelan_jj about 6 years ago
Because most adults vote like children is NOT a reason to make things worse by allowing those who will certainly vote like children to vote.
oakie817 about 6 years ago
children see honesty …. they should have a vote …i’d rather have the vote of every child, than every adult, personally
Dgwphotos about 6 years ago
Because kids haven’t developed the appropriate decision making skills.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] about 6 years ago
Frazz16 hrs ·
Many years ago, my news editor explained how it works. “In a democracy, every politician, from the day he takes office, has just one job,” he said: “To get re-elected.” He did not assign blame. He had started his career in photo, and he kept to the photojournalist’s creed, “I don’t take sides, I take pictures.” He wasn’t even about to say whether it was a good thing or a bad thing. Indeed, it could be either. It was just important to know when covering politics. And when voting.
I’ve watched Dennis’ picture of how democracy works merge seamlessly with the modern intensification of short-term thinking. And I’ve watched that short-term thinking mesh all too well with me-first thinking. And then I’ve watched that thinking crowd out critical thinking.
Unlike Dennis, I don’t take pictures. I draw pictures. And there’s no cartoonist’s creed that begins with “I don’t draw conclusions,” so I draw them a lot and they’re not always conventional. I conclude that if we’re going to have a minimum age to vote and to hold office, then we should have a maximum age, so that people should have to live to see some of the long-term consequences of what they bring about.
But back to the politicians and their #1 job. It makes the voters the grown-ups in the room. Maybe we need to think a little less like grown-ups.