Prickly City by Scott Stantis for February 04, 2020

It is difficult to wash one’s hands of something while one is up to their neck in it..

Can we move beyond “Now”, Carmen? Quickly?

While it would be nice to move on, as long as the GOP is still in power it will always be “for now”. Just look at Mitch.

I fantasize that the GOP can return to principles of freedom and limited government, but I don’t really believe they ever will. More likely they will double-down on religiosity and go for banning homosexuality, birth control, pornography, marijuana, divorce, extra-marital sex, and of course, abortion. In other words, back to 1950. Or “1984”.

I have heard that at one time both the Democrats and the Republicans had liberal and conservative branches and that that was why it not unusual for people from both parties to work together.

There is no GOP, only CoT (Cult of Trump).

Ah, like Joe Biden, you believe — all evidence to the contrary — the GOP is only temporarily insane.

Things will change when a Democrat President is elected. It is only a matter of time.

https://www.newsweek.com/iowa-republican-evangelical-wont-vote-trump-again-1485462

I voted for President Donald Trump in 2016. I thought he would shake up Washington and help fix the system that so many of us across the country know is broken. I thought people on both sides of the political aisle could benefit from his presidency.

I was hesitant, as there were aspects of his rhetoric and behavior on the campaign trail that I found objectionable. But I thought that his policies and judicial nominations would ultimately reflect my values, at least more than Hillary Clinton’s would, so I chose to look past his faults.

I hoped that once in office he would rise to the occasion and become more presidential.

But that didn’t happen.

I won’t, under any circumstances, vote for Trump again.

After more than three years under his administration, our country is more divided and isolated than at any time in my memory.

He’s supported some causes that I support, but overwhelmingly he’s proven himself a cruel, dishonest and self-serving man who lacks concern for the U.S. Constitution.

Because of his character he is unwilling to humble himself enough to learn and grow. His presidency doesn’t reflect my values and I don’t want four more years of it.

Let’s return to true “little r” republicanism. That CERAINLY hasn’t been part of the GOP for almost a century with the exception of Ronaldus Magnus and even he was undermined by his own party.

The classic RINO GOP establishment is mere democrat lite. They dont value or act on the founding principles of our country. I look for a post Trump GOP to go there, but right now Trump is the right man, for this time to do the jobs that need to be done.

I hear Trump’s apologists saying, as Silly Season’s post noted, that we should look past Mr. Trump’s faults. After the election, I did attempt to give him a chance to rise to the office entrusted to him. But the barrage of inane tweets, the number of demonstrable lies and falsehoods told, and the utter failure of any significant accomplishment (barring the tax breaks for the very wealthy) led me to believe that turning a blind eye to misogyny, racism, homophobia, and contempt for the rule of law was, perhaps, not such a good idea. If critics of the president should turn a blind eye to such obvious faults “in fairness,” should not the president and his apologists grant the same equanimity to his critics?

pretty sure Whigs were still saying that in the 1850’s.

Footage of Donald Trump acting a complete fool during the same Star Spangled Banner that he called Kaepernick a “son of a b*tch” over for kneeling.

Something tells me conservatives will suddenly stop caring about “respecting the flag.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMwpIqioeNI&feature=emb_logo

I, a Democrat, would like the Republican party to return to SOME kind of values. Notice there are no intellectual people who can/will articulate the current party’s goals & values, as there have been in the past. The party of the past at least made some good points and occasional creative ideas that moderates like me could work with.

Sigh. I comfort myself with the knowledge that the country has successfully weathered many political storms, and some awful presidents. I pray to God that we do so again.

k8zhd, Republican ‘values’ begin and end with Trump. The Base is filled with evangelicals who believe that Trump is the Messiah, who will make America ‘great’ again. No one ever articulates what that means, because parts of it are embarrassing to say out loud — it includes racism and open discrimination against others, just like it used to be.

It is a means to have ordinary working people insist strenuously, sometimes violently, that tax cuts for the wealthy and the biggest corporations are essential to preserve America from the Socialists/Communists/Globalists/Terrorists.

Believing that The Wall will prevent illegal immigration is only one illustration of the things that Trump Disciples are required to believe in order to explain the rest of their belief system.

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You know, there’s rocks all the way down.

I think the nation needs a conservative party, if for no other reason than to keep the Dems honest. The GOP I think is hopelessly tainted by the Cult of Trump (I like that, thanks Patjade) along with much of the religious right. Both have betrayed their values and there will be a heavy price to pay. Trump, like a kidney stone, will also pass eventually and be just as painful when he does.

Carmen you’re so sweet and naive. The republicans have died and been replaced by trumpublicans. They are the dark side with no light and since you are Hispanic you don’t fit in their all White America they want enshrined into the Constitution