Wait a minute- you’re asking someone who’s alive during the period from which fossil fuels came from about reducing fossil fuel dependence?? He just may be fossil fuel in a million years!
There is only ONE viable long range solution to our dependence on fossil fuels……
NUCLEAR
Not only would nuclear plants furnish our electrical needs, they could economically produce the hydrogen from water to power our cars with no pollution.
If you don’t agree, then what do you put on the table? PS: The US has been running nuclear powered submarines for over 50 years safely. It can be done…………..
Johanan, it seems as though they’ve evolved some since Mastroianni took over the helm. I think if Johnny had thought of this one, it probably would have played out as you suggest. And, yes, it would be funnier. Instead this makes more of a political statement.
H.G. Wells proposed that aliens would not necessarily have invented the wheel in “War of the Worlds”. I liked one bit in the adaptation with Tom Cruise where the aliens were trying to figure out the wheels on a bicycle in a basement.
GROG Totally agree on the $10/gallon as well as out of this world parking fees. Since I only walk and take the bus, amazing how errands get combined and I don’t “just pop out for something”.
I looked into taking the bus to work about 20 years ago. I would have traded a 20 minute drive in my car into a four bus and two hour commute each way. Guess what I chose! I would use mass transit if it actually came halfway close to where I live and went somewhere I wanted to go.
I love all you holier than thou’s about wanting $10. a gallon gas and high parking fees because you live in a city where you can take the bus.
You are very shortsighted! What do you think $10.00 a gallon gas would do to your grocery prices? To ALL your cost of living?
Do you think I can bike 17 miles to town down my mountain, buy groceries and bike back up 1000 feet carrying groceries? What about the elderly who live miles outside of your big cities?
You make me sick! Better yet, don’t you ever get sick with anything…. because you need to ride your bike to the ER where you can be treated for your pneumonia or your cancer.
@odeliasimone—You are so right. I drive a long haul truck. I haul everything from food stuff to little widgets that are so necessary for your lives. Unless you live a totally self-sufficient life, you must keep fuel prices down so the shipping costs can be kept to a dull roar. I beg you, folks. don’t assume you know all the answers until you really have connected the dots. For those of you in California, you need to find balance. If you run all the trucks out of the state, you will be leaving right behind since there will be nothing to eat, wear or anything else.
Lewreader; it’s nice to live in a city where all is available, except unpolluted air and quiet. I have PTSD, and can’t stand the city life. “Town” is 30 miles away, and the closest Mom & Pop is about 8, 3 1/2 of which is a two lane high-speed (55mph) country road. I wouldn’t have to worry about the motorists aiming for me to watch me spill onto the side of the road, there’s only the side white line and about three inches of asphalt, then grass and country ditch (full of rocks, and … ?)
odeliasimone; to a point, I think you’re right. along with what John Pike has said, look at what the supposed fear of a Libyan Civil War has prompted our gasoline companies to do. And the US only imports about 2 to 5% of our oil from Libya. Sure, they’re price gouging, but they also have us by the short hairs. We have become so dependent on Big Oil that we no longer know how to do without it.
My suggestion is that “We, the People” do our best to ensure that research is funded into alternative energy production. Nuclear is clean, unless or until an accident happens, but the start-up price is way too much. Hydrogen is cheap, until factors like distribution come into play, then that price goes up. The answer? I don’t know, and I’ll probably be dead before the crisis point is reached. (Of old age.) So, it is really up to the next generations to solve this on. Whine and b*h as much as they want about how “our” generation screwed the environment up, they still have to be the ones to solve it…or they join us in the grave, earlier.
odeliasimone, part of the problem is that Most Americans are so dependant on their automobiles. With global demand increasing $10/gal gas is a potential realitiy unless the vehicle manufacturers become more committed to producing more affordable vehicles with drastic improvements in mileage. If it’s not affordable, there is no incentive for the consumer to buy such high-priced vehicles. The other alternative would be build reliable public transportation systems in our cities. Not everyone would be able to to use public transportation, but I’m sure many would be glad to save on gas & parking costs if they could - if decent public transit were available.
Many Euopeans have been using bycicles and scooters for many years as a much cheaper alternative to driving a car. Just be glad that gas prices are much cheaper here than they are in European Nations. Fortunately we do not tax our gas as much as they do.
Why wouldn’t they offer the BC wheel? You don’t even have to pedal it! Even B.C. haven’t invented the bicycle. (At best all they have is a unicycle). LOL! I think I’m reading way to much into this, eh Grog? :-)
I live in the country, 120 miles from any large city with bus or taxie service. The country is also where your food and natural fabrics come from. You city folks are welcome to get on your bicycle to come up here to eat, but please don’t stay. You would starve to death fast if we had to trade our tractors and trucks for wagons.
I also only walk and take the bus. My choice. If you prefer to drive, that’s your choice. You are welcome to it. I’m sorry the price of gas is so high.
Tsali Queyi good for you. You are so right. City people don’t realize when they take a drive in the country just for the pretty greenery, that someone has worked and is working, long and hard and being a good steward of all that green they love to look at and eat. Buying water rights and irrigating those fields and crops is lots and lots of work.
monon43 over 13 years ago
Wait a minute- you’re asking someone who’s alive during the period from which fossil fuels came from about reducing fossil fuel dependence?? He just may be fossil fuel in a million years!
GROG Premium Member over 13 years ago
I wish more people would use them here. Maybe if we arbitrarily increased average gas prices in the U.S. to $10/gallon?
Good Morning, Fellow Cave Dwellers!
LittleSister18 over 13 years ago
So there were space aliens in prehistoric time.
See! I never knew that.
So very edumacative.
So to speak.
COWBOY7 over 13 years ago
How could they NOT know about it???
(Good Morning, Pamlicorat, Gweedo & all BCers!)
Rakkav over 13 years ago
Not bad. It wasn’t all that long ago that Thor invented the wheel. So he’s upped the ante a bit?
Come to think of it, I might’ve found this funner if that traveler had brought back one of Thor’s wheels…
kreole over 13 years ago
There is only ONE viable long range solution to our dependence on fossil fuels……
NUCLEAR
Not only would nuclear plants furnish our electrical needs, they could economically produce the hydrogen from water to power our cars with no pollution.
If you don’t agree, then what do you put on the table? PS: The US has been running nuclear powered submarines for over 50 years safely. It can be done…………..
GROG Premium Member over 13 years ago
Johanan, it seems as though they’ve evolved some since Mastroianni took over the helm. I think if Johnny had thought of this one, it probably would have played out as you suggest. And, yes, it would be funnier. Instead this makes more of a political statement.
Coyoty Premium Member over 13 years ago
H.G. Wells proposed that aliens would not necessarily have invented the wheel in “War of the Worlds”. I liked one bit in the adaptation with Tom Cruise where the aliens were trying to figure out the wheels on a bicycle in a basement.
lewisbower over 13 years ago
GROG Totally agree on the $10/gallon as well as out of this world parking fees. Since I only walk and take the bus, amazing how errands get combined and I don’t “just pop out for something”.
Plods with ...™ over 13 years ago
I’ll start riding a bicycle as soon as someone pays the extra $1000 a month it’ll cost me to live that close.
pamlicorat over 13 years ago
Good Morning Lonewolf, Gweedo, Grog & Everyone!
I stopped riding my bike because the morons around here think it’s funny to swerve their cars at bike riders and watch them fly into ditches.
vzs1022 over 13 years ago
Yeah, unfortunately my bike riding is limited to spin classes.
DesultoryPhillipic over 13 years ago
What’s fossil fuel? Coal?
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/oilnotfossilbfuel29sep05.shtml
TexTech over 13 years ago
I looked into taking the bus to work about 20 years ago. I would have traded a 20 minute drive in my car into a four bus and two hour commute each way. Guess what I chose! I would use mass transit if it actually came halfway close to where I live and went somewhere I wanted to go.
Neanderthal over 13 years ago
Right back with that barbeque sauce.
Neanderthal over 13 years ago
Right back with that barbeque sauce.
gobblingup Premium Member over 13 years ago
If that guy is flying a space ship while our ancestors were living in caves, I don’t think he needs our help.
Good morning BCers
odeliasimone over 13 years ago
I love all you holier than thou’s about wanting $10. a gallon gas and high parking fees because you live in a city where you can take the bus.
You are very shortsighted! What do you think $10.00 a gallon gas would do to your grocery prices? To ALL your cost of living?
Do you think I can bike 17 miles to town down my mountain, buy groceries and bike back up 1000 feet carrying groceries? What about the elderly who live miles outside of your big cities?
You make me sick! Better yet, don’t you ever get sick with anything…. because you need to ride your bike to the ER where you can be treated for your pneumonia or your cancer.
DjGuardian over 13 years ago
They call it… The Nike Express.
pawpawbear over 13 years ago
@odeliasimone—You are so right. I drive a long haul truck. I haul everything from food stuff to little widgets that are so necessary for your lives. Unless you live a totally self-sufficient life, you must keep fuel prices down so the shipping costs can be kept to a dull roar. I beg you, folks. don’t assume you know all the answers until you really have connected the dots. For those of you in California, you need to find balance. If you run all the trucks out of the state, you will be leaving right behind since there will be nothing to eat, wear or anything else.
yuggib over 13 years ago
Lewreader; it’s nice to live in a city where all is available, except unpolluted air and quiet. I have PTSD, and can’t stand the city life. “Town” is 30 miles away, and the closest Mom & Pop is about 8, 3 1/2 of which is a two lane high-speed (55mph) country road. I wouldn’t have to worry about the motorists aiming for me to watch me spill onto the side of the road, there’s only the side white line and about three inches of asphalt, then grass and country ditch (full of rocks, and … ?)
odeliasimone; to a point, I think you’re right. along with what John Pike has said, look at what the supposed fear of a Libyan Civil War has prompted our gasoline companies to do. And the US only imports about 2 to 5% of our oil from Libya. Sure, they’re price gouging, but they also have us by the short hairs. We have become so dependent on Big Oil that we no longer know how to do without it.
My suggestion is that “We, the People” do our best to ensure that research is funded into alternative energy production. Nuclear is clean, unless or until an accident happens, but the start-up price is way too much. Hydrogen is cheap, until factors like distribution come into play, then that price goes up. The answer? I don’t know, and I’ll probably be dead before the crisis point is reached. (Of old age.) So, it is really up to the next generations to solve this on. Whine and b*h as much as they want about how “our” generation screwed the environment up, they still have to be the ones to solve it…or they join us in the grave, earlier.
aaron9287 over 13 years ago
Great idea. if only my school wasn’t 7 miles away from my house.
GROG Premium Member over 13 years ago
odeliasimone, part of the problem is that Most Americans are so dependant on their automobiles. With global demand increasing $10/gal gas is a potential realitiy unless the vehicle manufacturers become more committed to producing more affordable vehicles with drastic improvements in mileage. If it’s not affordable, there is no incentive for the consumer to buy such high-priced vehicles. The other alternative would be build reliable public transportation systems in our cities. Not everyone would be able to to use public transportation, but I’m sure many would be glad to save on gas & parking costs if they could - if decent public transit were available.
Many Euopeans have been using bycicles and scooters for many years as a much cheaper alternative to driving a car. Just be glad that gas prices are much cheaper here than they are in European Nations. Fortunately we do not tax our gas as much as they do.
coffeeturtle over 13 years ago
Why wouldn’t they offer the BC wheel? You don’t even have to pedal it! Even B.C. haven’t invented the bicycle. (At best all they have is a unicycle). LOL! I think I’m reading way to much into this, eh Grog? :-)
sunnydog over 13 years ago
Kcreole Look up the USS Thresher; granted it is old news but not for the 118 families.
runar over 13 years ago
I once had a bi built for two (she was a lot of fun!).
Tsali-Queyi over 13 years ago
I live in the country, 120 miles from any large city with bus or taxie service. The country is also where your food and natural fabrics come from. You city folks are welcome to get on your bicycle to come up here to eat, but please don’t stay. You would starve to death fast if we had to trade our tractors and trucks for wagons.
dsom8 over 13 years ago
I also only walk and take the bus. My choice. If you prefer to drive, that’s your choice. You are welcome to it. I’m sorry the price of gas is so high.
odeliasimone over 13 years ago
Tsali Queyi good for you. You are so right. City people don’t realize when they take a drive in the country just for the pretty greenery, that someone has worked and is working, long and hard and being a good steward of all that green they love to look at and eat. Buying water rights and irrigating those fields and crops is lots and lots of work.
Dr. Zomboss is back, fools! about 3 years ago
Bah.