A president is supposed to keep and archive all documents, such as correspondence, etc., so that if there is ever any questions about anything he did, they could look it up. Trump obviously knew that much of what he did was illegal.
It’s now hard to believe that there once was a time — before QAnon — when Republicans would strive to unite our constitutional quasi-democratic republic and defend “liberty and justice for all” … not just for a self-defined cohort of neo-Nazi neo-Aryans ruled by a dictator.
Trump has a knack for messing and tearing up things, the constitution to him is a worthless piece of paper he has no regard for, like anything he isn’t able to read and understand, poor dummy!
Old habits are hard to change.. and with a lifetime of “shady” deals where evidence should not be left laying around, this ripping thing seems a natural response. Probably a good thing there are no functioning fire places left in the White House
no-willie just equated Pelosi tearing up a copy of a State of Union address to tearing up the Constitution of the United States of America. One document was a grifter’s pitch, trying to yet again sell America a bill of goods and was loaded with propaganda, and no-willie dares to equate that to tearing up the very basis of the laws of this land.
Fascists will try to deflect and distract from the childish act of a sociopath who in a fit of pique tended to tear up documents that either displeased him, showed him in a bad light, or more importantly were requested legally by those investigating acts of a planned coup d’etat and his defense of it.
For those too ignorant to understand that phrase
“: A sudden decisive exercise of force in politics
especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group”
“A day late and a dollar short” — What J6 Defendants are saying about the Latest Pardon Promises
One of the rioters, Edward Jacob Lang, in jail now awaiting trial, said recently he felt “completely abandoned by the political hierarchy.”
Speaking to right-wing personality Stew Peters in a jailhouse interview last month, Lang said, “Where are our leaders standing up? Our congressmen, our senators, our president? Trump, where are you?”
“We’re rotting in jail because we stood up for what you told us to stand up for,” he added.
Friday’s move by the Republican National Committee was to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for “persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse.”
The January 6 rioters and insurrectionists were not engaged in “legitimate political discourse”. Any suggestion that there was a legitimate political question whether to overturn the 2020 election, and that that’s what the insurrectionists were doing, is (as even Mike Pence says) un-American. And by doing Trump’s bidding and by propagating Trump’s big lie about the election, is the RNC is participating in un-American activities.
This is obvious to anybody who’s not in thrall to Trump. And the dwindling band of sane Republicans know this.
Roughly 150 police officers were injured on that day. Countless are still dealing with the trauma. More than 750 of the rioters have been charged with crimes.
All of that violence and destruction to try to upend a democratic election and the peaceful transfer of power this nation has prided itself upon since its creation.
This, according to the Republican Party — not the fringes, the recognized leadership of the party — is now “legitimate political discourse.”
And this is the way Trump and the RNC’s leaders want it. They call riots and insurrection “legitimate political discourse” because they think this will get them back into power. Like the Confederates of 1861, they figure that their side has the guns and the brave men and that their opponents are spineless, so they think they will win any fight they get into. How wrong the Confederates were! and how wrong Trump and his RNC cronies will be!
The Orange Stain hates the United States of America, which is why no one, but no one should have voted for him, ever. Well, no patriotic American, it is apparent that those that would be Nazis love him very much. Only rubes think Orange Dolt will do anything for them.
GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz said he was ‘quite disappointed’ Pence wasn’t ‘motivated’ to overturn the 2020 election results
Gaetz made the comments on Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast over the weekend.
“I knew then that he was not going to show a great deal of boldness before the Congress,” said Gaetz, who is under investigation by the US Department of Justice for potential violations of sex-trafficking laws, prompting Bannon to ask if it was because Pence “didn’t understand the content of what had gone on.”
“You are a stone cold coward… You’re going to carry this thing eventually to your grave, okay? Because it is a mark of shame.”— Steve Bannon on Mike Pence refusing to try to overturn the 2020 election
The Republican Party has ‘stopped being a legitimate political entity’: top Missouri paper
The editorial board of St Louis Post-Dispatch called out the Republican Party in an editorial on Sunday saying the GOP has given up any right to be considered representative of conservative voters after censuring two members on Friday afternoon.
“When future historians seek to pinpoint exactly when it was that the Republican Party stopped being a legitimate political entity promoting a coherent set of principles and was transformed fully into a cult of personality organized around a would-be autocrat, Feb. 4, 2022, might be in contention,” they wrote before adding, “As if to further detach themselves from reality, Republicans declared that the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection constituted ‘legitimate political discourse.’”
Calling the censure resolution “a marvel of alternate-reality thinking of the kind that former President Donald Trump is so good at,” the editors continued, “The RNC’s unprecedented sanction against both of them for that action confirms that the GOP no longer stands for anything beyond blind allegiance to the former president who fomented the violence.”
“The leaders of the Republican Party have made themselves willing hostages to a man who admits he tried to overturn a presidential election and suggests he would pardon Jan. 6 defendants, some of whom have been charged with seditious conspiracy. I’m a constitutional conservative and I do not recognize those in my party who have abandoned the Constitution to embrace Donald Trump. History will be their judge," she stated.
The editors tersely added, “Those words should be engraved in stone and stand as a memorial to a once-great political party that no longer exists in any recognizable form.”
https://www.rawstory.com/gop-censure/
Put a crazy racist traitor above you and you’re under his suspicion.
So what was Trump’s plan after seizing the voting machines?
President Donald J. Trump directed his lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to make a remarkable call." Get that? He directed his law-poodle Giuliani to call another one of his poodles in the Department of Homeland Security and see if that department would be willing to go out there into the battleground states and seize voting machines. The Times goes on to report that he had considered and rejected having the Department of Defense do his dirty work for him, and he had previously asked his supreme law-poodle, William Barr, his attorney general, to have the Department of Justice send its agents into the field and pick up the voting machines.
Voilà! There it was right in front of them! It was those damn voting machines! All they had to do was get their hands on those voting machines in three “key states” and … well … what was the plan, exactly?
So there’s at least a scrap of a plan. The Powell-Flynn-Byrne team thought that it would take only seven days to get a recount done in six large counties of multiple states Trump had lost.
The RNC has arguably engaged in fraud by labeling a violent insurrection as “legitimate political discourse.” In so doing it appears to be making a blatant attempt to cover-up—aid and abet after the fact—the January 6 sedition and insurrection. Further, the RNC can be seen as encouraging future sedition and insurrection by labeling such as “legitimate discourse.” Would this be sufficient grounds for filing an action in whatever jurisdiction where the RNC is registered or chartered—the District of Columbia? elsewhere?—seeking to have the organization dissolved for being an entity that engages in fraud and encourages sedition and insurrection against the government of the United States of America? Indeed, how can we allow such an organization that attacks our democracy to continue to operate?
If there is a pathway for seeking the RNC’s dissolution, might it be faster and easier to seek this administrative action than to secure a criminal conviction of the principals involved in the January 6 insurrection and associated plans to overturn the election?
It is not really amazing that the ignorant, misogynistic, vain, stupid, pathologically self-centered (I could go on and on) orange buffoon behaved and still behaves as he did. What is amazing and also terrifying is that so many “Republican” legislators have chosen to justify and support his behavior.
among my relatives and other fine church goin’ folks all bellowed ‘Biden is a baby killer!". I reply, I didn’t vote for Biden, I voted against the traitor Trump"
RAGs over 2 years ago
A president is supposed to keep and archive all documents, such as correspondence, etc., so that if there is ever any questions about anything he did, they could look it up. Trump obviously knew that much of what he did was illegal.
Concretionist over 2 years ago
Since he doesn’t read and doesn’t write, I don’t suppose they matter very much?
B 8671 over 2 years ago
Is there any surprise that the very first American dictator wannabe would do that?
eolan59 over 2 years ago
Don’t forget about all the members of Congress and the Senate who aided him
Daeder over 2 years ago
Il Douche’s “filing system”.
FreyjaRN Premium Member over 2 years ago
That is the QOP MO.
superposition over 2 years ago
It’s now hard to believe that there once was a time — before QAnon — when Republicans would strive to unite our constitutional quasi-democratic republic and defend “liberty and justice for all” … not just for a self-defined cohort of neo-Nazi neo-Aryans ruled by a dictator.
smartty cat over 2 years ago
while we Americans tore out our hair.
1BlackLivesMatter Premium Member over 2 years ago
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Masterskrain over 2 years ago
Of course, he’s also stupid enough to think that “Deleting” something from Twitter means that it’s gone from the Internet forever.
Stephen Runnels Premium Member over 2 years ago
With McConnell and Trump as current examples, tearing up the constitution is a long held republican tradition.
FrankErnesto over 2 years ago
Now he has the “Supreme Court” to do it for him.
wildthing over 2 years ago
Like any mobster, defending criminal behavior in court is so much easier with no witnesses and no records.
Zebrastripes over 2 years ago
What a disgusting EVIL POS
magicwalnut Premium Member over 2 years ago
…and she did that when?
Bendarling1 over 2 years ago
There are copies. The problem is those who join him in seeking the destruction of what’s left of the USA
More Coffee Please! Premium Member over 2 years ago
There’s no law this “law and order” clown didn’t break, no surprise to see this added to the list. What a disgrace this “man” is.
1BlackLivesMatter Premium Member over 2 years ago
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Sgt. Snorkle over 2 years ago
Trump has a knack for messing and tearing up things, the constitution to him is a worthless piece of paper he has no regard for, like anything he isn’t able to read and understand, poor dummy!
Alberta Oil Premium Member over 2 years ago
Old habits are hard to change.. and with a lifetime of “shady” deals where evidence should not be left laying around, this ripping thing seems a natural response. Probably a good thing there are no functioning fire places left in the White House
Display over 2 years ago
no-willie just equated Pelosi tearing up a copy of a State of Union address to tearing up the Constitution of the United States of America. One document was a grifter’s pitch, trying to yet again sell America a bill of goods and was loaded with propaganda, and no-willie dares to equate that to tearing up the very basis of the laws of this land.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Hateful republicans can’t even stand each other.
GOP lawmakers privately expressing anger with Trump as RNC meeting ends
https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-2020-2656575257/
That happens when the vicious lying loser head of your party is a clinically insane traitor.
Display over 2 years ago
Fascists will try to deflect and distract from the childish act of a sociopath who in a fit of pique tended to tear up documents that either displeased him, showed him in a bad light, or more importantly were requested legally by those investigating acts of a planned coup d’etat and his defense of it.
For those too ignorant to understand that phrase
“: A sudden decisive exercise of force in politics
especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group”
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
“A day late and a dollar short” — What J6 Defendants are saying about the Latest Pardon Promises
One of the rioters, Edward Jacob Lang, in jail now awaiting trial, said recently he felt “completely abandoned by the political hierarchy.”
Speaking to right-wing personality Stew Peters in a jailhouse interview last month, Lang said, “Where are our leaders standing up? Our congressmen, our senators, our president? Trump, where are you?”
“We’re rotting in jail because we stood up for what you told us to stand up for,” he added.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/2/5/2078835/—A-day-late-and-a-dollar-short-What-J6-Defendants-are-saying-about-the-Latest-Pardon-Promises?utm_campaign=trending
Yet the Maga’s still love their hateful traitor Trump.
Ally2005 over 2 years ago
The Secret Service wouldn’t let Rump play with scissors so what was a lying conman to do to try and cover his tracks?
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
The January 6 rioters and insurrectionists were not engaged in “legitimate political discourse”. Any suggestion that there was a legitimate political question whether to overturn the 2020 election, and that that’s what the insurrectionists were doing, is (as even Mike Pence says) un-American. And by doing Trump’s bidding and by propagating Trump’s big lie about the election, is the RNC is participating in un-American activities.
This is obvious to anybody who’s not in thrall to Trump. And the dwindling band of sane Republicans know this.
Roughly 150 police officers were injured on that day. Countless are still dealing with the trauma. More than 750 of the rioters have been charged with crimes.
All of that violence and destruction to try to upend a democratic election and the peaceful transfer of power this nation has prided itself upon since its creation.
This, according to the Republican Party — not the fringes, the recognized leadership of the party — is now “legitimate political discourse.”
And this is the way Trump and the RNC’s leaders want it. They call riots and insurrection “legitimate political discourse” because they think this will get them back into power. Like the Confederates of 1861, they figure that their side has the guns and the brave men and that their opponents are spineless, so they think they will win any fight they get into. How wrong the Confederates were! and how wrong Trump and his RNC cronies will be!
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/2/6/2078815/—Legitimate-political-discourse-then-and-now?utm_campaign=recent
GiantShetlandPony over 2 years ago
The Orange Stain hates the United States of America, which is why no one, but no one should have voted for him, ever. Well, no patriotic American, it is apparent that those that would be Nazis love him very much. Only rubes think Orange Dolt will do anything for them.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Democracy hating Republican traitors want to put the Constitution and your vote into a burn bag.
Masterskrain over 2 years ago
MontanaBullSh!# really IS a blithering idiot, isn’t he???
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Trump Fumes McConnell Does ‘Nothing’ as GOP Gets ‘Creamed’ in Redistricting
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-fumes-mcconnell-does-nothing-as-gop-gets-creamed-in-redistricting/ar-AATvNyv?ocid=msedgntp
1BlackLivesMatter Premium Member over 2 years ago
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willie_mctell over 2 years ago
Sometimes he chewed them and swallowed them. Only fiber in his diet.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz said he was ‘quite disappointed’ Pence wasn’t ‘motivated’ to overturn the 2020 election results
Gaetz made the comments on Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast over the weekend.
“I knew then that he was not going to show a great deal of boldness before the Congress,” said Gaetz, who is under investigation by the US Department of Justice for potential violations of sex-trafficking laws, prompting Bannon to ask if it was because Pence “didn’t understand the content of what had gone on.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-rep-matt-gaetz-said-he-was-quite-disappointed-pence-wasn-t-motivated-to-overturn-the-2020-election-results/ar-AATx93c?ocid=msedgntp
These two hateful right wing conspirators are in a War Room openly plotting against the USA.
They wanted the Republican Coup to succeed so they would not have to fact the criminal charges against them.
mwksix over 2 years ago
“We’re gunna need a bigger tape!”
Duka over 2 years ago
“You are a stone cold coward… You’re going to carry this thing eventually to your grave, okay? Because it is a mark of shame.”— Steve Bannon on Mike Pence refusing to try to overturn the 2020 election
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
‘Walls Are Closing in on Trump’ After Pence Speech, Says GOP’s Comstock
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/walls-are-closing-in-on-trump-after-pence-speech-says-gop-s-comstock/ar-AATxl0T?ocid=msedgntp
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Traitor Trump acted like a mafia crime boss hiding the evidence.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
The Republican Party has ‘stopped being a legitimate political entity’: top Missouri paper
The editorial board of St Louis Post-Dispatch called out the Republican Party in an editorial on Sunday saying the GOP has given up any right to be considered representative of conservative voters after censuring two members on Friday afternoon.
“When future historians seek to pinpoint exactly when it was that the Republican Party stopped being a legitimate political entity promoting a coherent set of principles and was transformed fully into a cult of personality organized around a would-be autocrat, Feb. 4, 2022, might be in contention,” they wrote before adding, “As if to further detach themselves from reality, Republicans declared that the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection constituted ‘legitimate political discourse.’”
Calling the censure resolution “a marvel of alternate-reality thinking of the kind that former President Donald Trump is so good at,” the editors continued, “The RNC’s unprecedented sanction against both of them for that action confirms that the GOP no longer stands for anything beyond blind allegiance to the former president who fomented the violence.”
“The leaders of the Republican Party have made themselves willing hostages to a man who admits he tried to overturn a presidential election and suggests he would pardon Jan. 6 defendants, some of whom have been charged with seditious conspiracy. I’m a constitutional conservative and I do not recognize those in my party who have abandoned the Constitution to embrace Donald Trump. History will be their judge," she stated.
The editors tersely added, “Those words should be engraved in stone and stand as a memorial to a once-great political party that no longer exists in any recognizable form.”
https://www.rawstory.com/gop-censure/
Put a crazy racist traitor above you and you’re under his suspicion.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
So what was Trump’s plan after seizing the voting machines?
President Donald J. Trump directed his lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to make a remarkable call." Get that? He directed his law-poodle Giuliani to call another one of his poodles in the Department of Homeland Security and see if that department would be willing to go out there into the battleground states and seize voting machines. The Times goes on to report that he had considered and rejected having the Department of Defense do his dirty work for him, and he had previously asked his supreme law-poodle, William Barr, his attorney general, to have the Department of Justice send its agents into the field and pick up the voting machines.
Voilà! There it was right in front of them! It was those damn voting machines! All they had to do was get their hands on those voting machines in three “key states” and … well … what was the plan, exactly?
So there’s at least a scrap of a plan. The Powell-Flynn-Byrne team thought that it would take only seven days to get a recount done in six large counties of multiple states Trump had lost.
https://www.rawstory.com/so-what-was-trump-s-plan-after-seizing-the-voting-machines/
This is a crime like no other in the history of the USA.
The criminal republican authoritarian oligarchs want to take over the USA by hook or crook.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
The RNC has arguably engaged in fraud by labeling a violent insurrection as “legitimate political discourse.” In so doing it appears to be making a blatant attempt to cover-up—aid and abet after the fact—the January 6 sedition and insurrection. Further, the RNC can be seen as encouraging future sedition and insurrection by labeling such as “legitimate discourse.” Would this be sufficient grounds for filing an action in whatever jurisdiction where the RNC is registered or chartered—the District of Columbia? elsewhere?—seeking to have the organization dissolved for being an entity that engages in fraud and encourages sedition and insurrection against the government of the United States of America? Indeed, how can we allow such an organization that attacks our democracy to continue to operate?
If there is a pathway for seeking the RNC’s dissolution, might it be faster and easier to seek this administrative action than to secure a criminal conviction of the principals involved in the January 6 insurrection and associated plans to overturn the election?
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/2/5/2078829/-Question-for-Attorneys-Is-There-a-Path-to-Dissolution-of-the-RNC?utm_campaign=recent
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Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Chris Christie Mocks Trump For Telling the ‘Truth by Accident’: ‘He Wanted the Election to Be Overturned’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chris-christie-mocks-trump-for-telling-the-truth-by-accident-he-wanted-the-election-to-be-overturned/ar-AATx9hd?ocid=msedgntp
Not the Smartest Man On the Planet -- Maybe Close Premium Member over 2 years ago
Nice.
casonia2 over 2 years ago
It is not really amazing that the ignorant, misogynistic, vain, stupid, pathologically self-centered (I could go on and on) orange buffoon behaved and still behaves as he did. What is amazing and also terrifying is that so many “Republican” legislators have chosen to justify and support his behavior.
tamrich59 over 2 years ago
Like Pelosi tore up the State of the Union speech…
944im Premium Member over 2 years ago
among my relatives and other fine church goin’ folks all bellowed ‘Biden is a baby killer!". I reply, I didn’t vote for Biden, I voted against the traitor Trump"
theoldidahofox over 2 years ago
Expect no help, but hindrance from the GOP.
No One in Particular over 2 years ago
And to think he might run again… ): if I haven’t noticed the latest update on his future campaign, feel free to clarify me.
Conservative Man over 2 years ago
No that was Pukelosi saw her do it on tv