Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for November 19, 2009

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    wndrwrthg  almost 15 years ago

    There’s more than one?

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    yyyguy  almost 15 years ago

    of course there’s more than one. Bill Gates can’t run everything can he?

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    Superfrog  almost 15 years ago

    I don’t control and you don’t mind.

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    madKanga  almost 15 years ago

    Pretty much any big business (or church or political party, or ..)

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    cdward  almost 15 years ago

    madKanga, I think the point of Danae’s argument is that “social retards” are the people who never spend time around other people - just formulas and machines. Whatever evil political parties and churches might or might not do, they are all about spending time with other people.

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    nonsequitous  almost 15 years ago

    ”Pretty much any big business (or church or the-p-word party, or ..” - madKanga

    ”madKanga, I think the point of Danae’s argument is that “social retards” are the people who never spend time around other people - just formulas and machines. Whatever evil the-p-word parties and churches might or might not do, they are all about spending time with other people.” - cdward

    Guys, I fixed up your posts for you so they are SC (nonsequiturially correct). Don’t want to be straying too far off topic, y’know.

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    nonsequitous  almost 15 years ago

    A banking cabal “social retard” hard at work

    http://www.changetowin.org/connect/images/bin-dive.jpg

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    ronaldmundy  almost 15 years ago

    nonse quitous, you changed your pic. & attitude are You now the smoking gun?

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    AKHenderson Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    Uncle Scrooge was wise to put his money in a vault instead of Bear Stearns stock.

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    nonsequitous  almost 15 years ago

    ”nonsequitous, you changed your pic. & attitude are You now the smoking gun?”

    Smoking gun? I’m not evidence of anything, not a secret nerd world domation cabal or intelligent life on the planet.

    Nor am I the new sheriff in town or Wiley’s hired gun.

    You don’t know who I “am”? I thought it appropriate, given that … well, have a looksee, and the “given that…” is left as an exercise for the reader.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0485226/

    http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&safe=off&q=rocky+lane&sa=N&start=72&ndsp=18

    Don’t yell at me – I’m not your wife!

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    Plods with ...™  almost 15 years ago

    ROFLMAO

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    nothappy  almost 15 years ago

    Way to go, you just took one of my favorite strips and just made it into something I can’t tolerate. Ignorance isn’t bliss it’s just ignorance. I expected more from your strip and always got it until today. Might as well go for a couple ethnic slurs while you are at it, keep the streak going.

    http://www.r-word.org/

    http://www.specialolympics.org/03-31-09Spreadthe_Word.aspx

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    Takiniteasy  almost 15 years ago

    I like nonsequitous’ new avatar better than his last one, don’t you?

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    vexatron1984  almost 15 years ago

    Speaking as one of the said socially retarded geeky gals, I think you need to lighten up “nothappy.” Not to mention someone who spends his days drawing cartoons probably counts himself among this elite group of people as well. Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves for we shall never cease to be amused!

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    notinksanymore  almost 15 years ago

    Speaking as a socially retarded geek, I think it’s really funny how seriously people take these networking sites. There’s currently a facebook feud going on in my crim class. It’s all my classmates are talking about.

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    Wildcard24365  almost 15 years ago

    BE MORE SPECIFIC!!!

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    ds133  almost 15 years ago

    Well, I enjoyed this comic and how it poked fun at the people who control our daily life (all those cabals of the socially inept), even if a few of the overly sensitive readers didn’t. I really find it hard to take anyone who gets so worked up about a word seriously, especially when the reference is not actually directly relating to what they are sensitive about.

    And before anyone gets huffy, I do support the special olympics and all the work that goes into it. I often help my cousin practice for the swim races she competes in, so no blasting about how I don’t understand please.

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    GROG Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    I love the definition of social retard. I must be one of them.

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    Wiley creator almost 15 years ago

    There is an enormous difference between “socially retarded” and “mentally retarded”. The former has absolutely nothing to do with the latter. I don’t know how that couldn’t be understood when you read the entire cartoon in context. There is nothing wrong or offensive in the word, “retard”. When it, or any other word for that matter, becomes offensive is how it’s used and the intent in which it is used. Trying to equate this cartoon with the special olympics is, at best, disingenuous.

    No cartoonist would ever produce a cartoon that ridicules the mentally handicapped, nor would any syndicate distribute such a cartoon. You have simply zeroed in one word and have taken it out of context. I understand the sensitivity to it, but one still needs to keep it in context with cartoon and the character.

    Wiley

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    wicky  almost 15 years ago

    Yaaaaay Wiley!

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    eric stott  almost 15 years ago

    bleeep is a perfectly good word borrowed directly from the French- it means to slow down or hold back.

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    eric stott  almost 15 years ago

    Oh Dear God now the program won’t even let me write *etard

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    geazer  almost 15 years ago

    meep

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    Takiniteasy  almost 15 years ago

    Oh, wow, nonsequitous, I remember Sgt. King and Red Ryder both. Didn’t know he was Mr. Ed’s voice, though. Cool …

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    kirbey  almost 15 years ago

    yikes…

    yeaaaaay, Wiley ! love this strip, puts a smile on my face…

    cheers,

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    DBjorn  almost 15 years ago

    Okay…I now need to take my computer in for a decafienation treatment.

    should know better than to take a sip of coffee right before reading punch lines…

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    firebirdjim  almost 15 years ago

    I hear that lawyers are no longer on the bottom of the food chain. They’ve been replaced by bankers and politicians. Danae has to be talking about politicians, then.

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    nonsequitous  almost 15 years ago

    Oh, wow, nonsequitous, I remember Sgt. King and Red Ryder both. Didn’t know he was Mr. Ed’s voice, though. Cool

    Well, way I figger it is we got a strip here with a little girl who’s got a talking horse. Why not have a fan who used to be the voice of the talking horse who’s now the horse, of course, who’s got a talking fan of the little girl who’s got a talking … oh dear, where was I …

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    nonsequitous  almost 15 years ago

    Oh Dear God now the program won’t even let me write “retard”

    Put it in quotes.See?. You think that’s bad. The artificial stupidity censorship software at politico even asterisks out parts of words. Try talking about the bastardization of the English language over there. Or about somebody bitching about something. And you can’t prick a boil over there, no sirree.

    “Data control IBM Science is mankind’s brother” – Jefferson Airplane

    You know who’s at fault, doncha? It’s the nerds again, trying to control the world with their stoopid software. They’re everywhere they’re everybleeep bleeep bleeep

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    Wiley creator almost 15 years ago

    “Even though it goes against the edict of the Wiley, politicians are the first ones to come to mind when thinking about socially retarded, geeky guys.”

    Just to be clear, I have no problem at all with anyone taking swipes at politicians in general, as done here. The only problem I have is when people try to use this forum as a soap box and go on a diatribe of partisan rhetoric that has nothing to do with the subject of the cartoon that day.

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    shadowwriter  almost 15 years ago

    nothappy, now ur an idiot. It was used to indicate a lack of something in another, not insulting people with special needs. Are you gonna sue fire extinguisher companys for using the term “fire retardant” now?

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    abs1978  almost 15 years ago

    Wiley… you absolutely rock!

    And nonsequitous, so do you.

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    1148559  almost 15 years ago

    @ Nothappy

    The use of the word “retard” in this context has absolutely nothing to do with anyone who would be in the Special Olympics.

    In fact, the “retards” that Danae is referring to generally have genius IQ.

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    bugaboo27  almost 15 years ago

    The word “retard” as a verb is fine – ask any musician. The word “retard” as a noun is a bit jolting, though. It’s one of those words that is generally not accepted, so it’s surprising to see it used here - especially a couple days in a row.

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    Wiley creator almost 15 years ago

    Scroll up and read my first post, please.

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    leealicek  almost 15 years ago

    @ those offended

    “It is our own vanity that makes the vanity of others intolerable to us.” -Rochefoucauld, Francois, Duc de la

    What’s worse than the “ignorant” are those that try to be overly P.C. and prevent our ability to effectively work/communicate as a society.

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    johndh123  almost 15 years ago

    Maizing said, about 1 hour ago

    @ Nothappy

    “The use of the word “retard” in this context has absolutely nothing to do with anyone who would be in the Special Olympics. In fact, the “retards” that Danae is referring to generally have genius IQ.”

    Absolutely correct. I HATE to characterize anyone, with generalities…..but…er…..~wink~ perhaps a person with ‘Nothappy’ as their blog name might be from the ‘half empty’ crowd…

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    lazygrazer  almost 15 years ago

    retard

    –verb 1 -to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede. 2 -to be delayed.

    –noun 1 -a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine.

    Slang: Disparaging. a. a mentally retarded person. b. a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.

    Automotive, Machinery. 1 -an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle.

    Words are like guns….useful until aimed with malice.

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    jsprat  almost 15 years ago

    Wiley, I laughed, thank you. I love the line in your post, “a diatribe of partisan rhetoric.”

    Yes, and waiter I’ll have a diatribe of partisan rhetoric with a side of sarcasm.

    People that read comics before the news live longer. People that (try to) read between the lines of a comic need lives.

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    Potrzebie  almost 15 years ago

    too many social bleeps posting rants.

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    Wiley creator almost 15 years ago

    “People that read comics before the news live longer. People that (try to) read between the lines of a comic need lives.”

    Love that!

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    treered  almost 15 years ago

    thanks for prolonging our lives in an entertaining manner!

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    GROG Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    jsprat I particularly like your last paragraph.

    I think it should be a disclaimer at the top of each strip before you can post a comment.

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    artybee  almost 15 years ago

    I usually save the cartoons for last as an antidote for the news.

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    celeconecca  almost 15 years ago

    I read the comics last - I call it dessert.

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    CoBass  almost 15 years ago

    I wish The Economist had searchable access to their “Letters to the Editor”. I remember one, must have been back around 1995 or 1996. It was crammed full of words, such as “chink” and the one that started this controversy, which are perfectly fine in one context but offensive in another. You can probably imagine some of the words for yourself.

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    nothappy  almost 15 years ago

    I wonder how many of you people that are flaming would act if you had relatives with special needs? Suppose it is your son, daughter, brother, or sister. Thanks for proving how morally and mentally bankrupt we have become. Nothing but love for you haters when all I was trying to prove that you don’t have to use certain words to be funny. Whip out a couple “N” words while you are all at it. Love ya!

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    oblum  almost 15 years ago

    this is why I prefer to live in Europe, and not in the US (which I otherwise love dearly): We ban concepts, not words.

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    Varnes  almost 15 years ago

    Maybe some of us should heed Danae’s advice in the first panel. Besides, mind….con….trol…..is……not….. ..pos….si……ble……..

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    nonsequitous  almost 15 years ago

    I usually save the cartoons for last as an antidote for the news.

    If you don’t read the news you don’t need an antidote. I watch The Daily Show and The Colber Repor, kill two birds with one stone. Oh censored, now I’ll have the PETARDS(tm) after me for talking about killing poor helpless metaphorical birds. Stoning them to death!

    Can we say PETARDS(tm) here? (Waiting for it)

    On the other hand, as far as reading comics making you live longer, ever heard the expression “die laughing”? How many lawyers you got working for you, Wiley?

    Enough, I hope.

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    MatureCanadian  almost 15 years ago

    Wiley, thanks again for a very funny cartoon.

    jsprat - love your comment!

    nonsequitous - You go, Mr. Ed….

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    nonsequitous  almost 15 years ago

    I wonder how many of you people that are flaming would act if you had relatives with special needs? … Thanks for proving how morally and mentally bankrupt you are – nothappy

    So you are saying those who make fun of people with special needs, deficient in some physical or mental way, are mentally … bankrupt? “Bankrupt” as in “deficient” in some metaphorical type of intellectual or moral “funds”?

    I think I see what you’re saying, and I must say, I’m nothappy that you’re referring to these crass jokesters in such a politically incorrect way. What if it were your son or daughter that had such an insensitive sense of humor. You wouldn’t like it if someone called them mentally bankrupt, I don’t think. You might just as well call them “stupid”. Sorry, Wil’, I meant to say “the s-word.” Won’t happen again.

    Whip out a couple “N” words while you are all at it.

    Actually, I did. Nov 17, 2nd page of comments. In response to a post from MatureCanadian, whose son has a low IQ and is in a wheelchair, and despises PC euphemisms. My response gives a link to a famous Lenny Bruce bit teeming with n-words, k-words, s-words, b-words, m-words, every letter of the alphabet Very Bad Words, as performed by Dustin Hoffman in the movie Lenny. MCanadian is a big fan of Bruce, and Carlin, and thanked me for the link.

    I just thank god Lenny didn’t say stupi- er, the s-word.

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    nonsequitous  almost 15 years ago

    Maybe some of us should heed Danae’s advice in the first panel. Besides, mind…con…trol…is…not…pos…si…ble…

    Remember Life of Brian? You’ve got to think for yourselves! You’re all individuals! Yes! We are all individuals! You’re all different! Yes! we are all different! I’m not. (As one, they all beat him with shoes.)

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    pschearer Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    Once again Wiley Miller insults the business world, thinking (or at least claiming) that it’s all just a joke.

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    wessexwarropr  almost 15 years ago

    The use of the word bleeep in the Nov 17 and 15 strips is extremely offensive to anyone with developmental disabilities or the friends or families of people with developmental disabilities (i.e., mental bleeepation). I am sure the author did not know that and thought that, as some of the commentors do, that “bleeep” has some more acceptable meaning other than the dictionary definition that someone posted earlier. It doesn’t.

    I was amazed to see the word used in a comic strip.

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    wessexwarropr  almost 15 years ago

    Hey, they’re bleeping the word out now! Is this one of those smart machines that learns by itself? They even bleep it out of the word “mental rtardation!”

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    hex  over 1 year ago

    People that read comics (& don’t read between the lines) and forego the news live even longer AND better.

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