Well, anyone notice there was no Ebola crisis at all, and now the Repubiicans insist there was no need for a csar, and the waste of money on Ebola fears is unhinged, indeed. (At least until anothe case comes to the U.S. for treatment?)
Genuine epidemics are all reality-based. You can kinda tell, because they aren’t related to the length of a news cycle. They last long after baying human hyenas (aka reporters) have departed to report on the latest crisis du jour…
Yeah, at this point when it comes to guns it matters little if we close the barn door tight or leave it mostly wide open. The horse is long gone and likely ain’t coming back no matter what. And people are what they are. Sorry.
Alcuin:Actually, it makes a great deal of difference whether people have guns; not only are guns far more effective at killing people, they are far easier to use, both physically and psychologically. There is no need to physically overpower your opponent, or to get close enough to even put oneself at risk. Psychologically, pulling a trigger is a tiny gesture, compared with physically hitting or stabbing someone multiple times at close quarters, while they fight for their life, and their blood gets on your hands, on your fave, in your eyes. It’s not that restricting handguns or assault weapons will prevent all murders, but it will prevent many, as well as many suicides. The biggest difference between the murder and suicide rates of the U.S. and Canada is the vast quantity of gun crime (the U.S. rate per capita of both mushers and suicides is multiples of Canada’s, for example).
If you actually listen to reality for a change you will hear that there is exactly NO call for prohibiting firearms. Zero! What is being sought is some sort of licensing and background checks. Your typical hysterical statement is childish and simplistic.
Not only gun violence but the people who insist on shooting guns off at all hours of the day or night. For no apparent reason – no sirens heard. Our poor dogs are traumatized on a daily basis. They do it just for the fun? Ammo dealers must love them.
Mark could have mentioned that smoking kills 400,000 or so people in America per year…..Reading the oldies, you can notice that Rollie made sense once in a while, though he was always way too gung-ho and conceited as hell. These days, though, he would have to rent the sense that God gives a radish, not being blessed with it himself.
3000? Based on a statistical projection. Okay, I’ll buy that. Based on statistics, the vast majority of those shootings was gang related and in major metro areas (Chicago, NY, LA, DC). The war on poverty has created more poverty and more dependence on government. The war on drugs has created more gangs and more violence. Don’t like a grand jury not indicting someone? Burn and loot your neighborhood. Any talk of the epidemic of lawlessness on the MSM? The people that have all the facts are idiots and those who have prejudged the case based on rumor and lies know it all.
Yes, the correct grammar is “lying,” but it is Roland who has shaky grammatical knowledge and not Trudeau. It makes sense that the ridiculous Fox reporter wouldn’t know the correct grammar, as he is a blowhard who spouts nonsense.
In many countries they enforced quarantines: no Ebola cases at all, zero. Also, mass shootings in those countries haven’t risen year after year like they have in the US; I wonder why. Cultural, of course, teaching that rights have zero responsibility attached, but is that it?
I didn’t hear any of this Ebola talk stuff, no idea what it refers to. Heard about poor foreign relations, putting DNC fundraisers into important positions, a DNC leader calling all her constituents stupid and racist, a lot of One Note DNC candidates, idiotic stuff about a ‘war on women’ that focused on stuff that had nothing to do with what women care about, an IRS and EPA and DoJ series of crimes, but no Ebola stuff besides the epidemic in Africa.
“Yep and if they don’t have a gun they use kitchen knives or baseball bats and sometimes cars but we do not hear the screaming and shouting to outlaw those items .”
The reason why people aren’t shouting is that these items (and cars, too) all have constructive uses other than killing people. It’s a risk vs. utility question. Try going a week without using a car or a kitchen knife. But unless you’re a cop or a soldier, going a week without touching a gun is not only easy, it’s the norm.
Yeah, an epidemic of knife and baseball bat killings, up close and personal which most killers want no part of. Lemme know how many innocents you think will be killed by stray knives and bats, or how many will be killed in school mass knifings or battings.
Congress should have confirmed the nominated surgeon general who would have been the one to speak to the public about the ebola situation. Instead they cower to the nra.
Perhaps comparison to gun violence isn’t relevant to the Ebola “epidemic”. AIDS in the 80s, on the other hand…Remind me again who the President was then, and how he reacted to the AIDS epidemic.
“There is an Ebola Crisis, just not in the USA. Did you know that? No, obviously you are oblivious to it.”The comic was about the media hysteria over ebola becoming an epidemic in the US. dtroutma was pretty clearly talking about that, not the real epidemic in west Africa. Maybe ease up on the coffee, Gaunt… :^)
A baseball bat says “I can hit a baseball.” A kitchen knife says “I can slice the pot roast.” A door stop says “I can keep this door open.” None of these cries out “Use me to kill that bird, that beast, that person.” Anyone can use a baseball bat to bludgeon a person to death, a kitchen knife to cut a person’s throat, a a door stop to hammer a person’s head, but they don’t incite violence silently, just by their presence. Gun laws that regulate the who, how and where of gun possession is no more of an imposition on citizens than vehicle registration or Rx requirement of potentially lethal medications.
I think it’s quite simple — you can have all the guns you want, but you absolutely should be held totally responsible for what happens with those guns.
Guns don’t kill people, black men with guns kill OTHER black people . . . that along with suicides and death by cop out of the statistics and homicides have been on a sure and steady decline with other gun violence.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 10 years ago
Lying in wait
BE THIS GUY almost 10 years ago
That Ebola czar worked wonders.
Dtroutma almost 10 years ago
Well, anyone notice there was no Ebola crisis at all, and now the Repubiicans insist there was no need for a csar, and the waste of money on Ebola fears is unhinged, indeed. (At least until anothe case comes to the U.S. for treatment?)
Argythree almost 10 years ago
Genuine epidemics are all reality-based. You can kinda tell, because they aren’t related to the length of a news cycle. They last long after baying human hyenas (aka reporters) have departed to report on the latest crisis du jour…
jackhs almost 10 years ago
Blame the gun and not the deranged lunatic pulling the trigger.
Alexander the Good Enough almost 10 years ago
Yeah, at this point when it comes to guns it matters little if we close the barn door tight or leave it mostly wide open. The horse is long gone and likely ain’t coming back no matter what. And people are what they are. Sorry.
Greg Johnston almost 10 years ago
Alcuin:Actually, it makes a great deal of difference whether people have guns; not only are guns far more effective at killing people, they are far easier to use, both physically and psychologically. There is no need to physically overpower your opponent, or to get close enough to even put oneself at risk. Psychologically, pulling a trigger is a tiny gesture, compared with physically hitting or stabbing someone multiple times at close quarters, while they fight for their life, and their blood gets on your hands, on your fave, in your eyes. It’s not that restricting handguns or assault weapons will prevent all murders, but it will prevent many, as well as many suicides. The biggest difference between the murder and suicide rates of the U.S. and Canada is the vast quantity of gun crime (the U.S. rate per capita of both mushers and suicides is multiples of Canada’s, for example).
karljegolf almost 10 years ago
How would Gary know? He doesn’t watch Fox.
Simon Seamount almost 10 years ago
Trudeau! The correct grammar is “lying” in wait. Grin.
trash8call almost 10 years ago
And the full court press of propaganda begins for the 2016 elections after the humiliating defeat of this past one.
nucker1 almost 10 years ago
Don’t ban guns. Ban bullets. Once folks use up what they have the guns won’t matter (unless you get hit by one).
tcolkett almost 10 years ago
If you actually listen to reality for a change you will hear that there is exactly NO call for prohibiting firearms. Zero! What is being sought is some sort of licensing and background checks. Your typical hysterical statement is childish and simplistic.
Punter75 almost 10 years ago
Guns don’t kill people.Bullets kill people.
jkm1960 almost 10 years ago
Not only gun violence but the people who insist on shooting guns off at all hours of the day or night. For no apparent reason – no sirens heard. Our poor dogs are traumatized on a daily basis. They do it just for the fun? Ammo dealers must love them.
Godfreydaniel almost 10 years ago
Mark could have mentioned that smoking kills 400,000 or so people in America per year…..Reading the oldies, you can notice that Rollie made sense once in a while, though he was always way too gung-ho and conceited as hell. These days, though, he would have to rent the sense that God gives a radish, not being blessed with it himself.
mourdac Premium Member almost 10 years ago
That darned liberal media interjecting facts into an argument.
mourdac Premium Member almost 10 years ago
That darned liberal media interjecting facts into an argument.
goweeder almost 10 years ago
LYING in wait…………
drdougsteward almost 10 years ago
3000? Based on a statistical projection. Okay, I’ll buy that. Based on statistics, the vast majority of those shootings was gang related and in major metro areas (Chicago, NY, LA, DC). The war on poverty has created more poverty and more dependence on government. The war on drugs has created more gangs and more violence. Don’t like a grand jury not indicting someone? Burn and loot your neighborhood. Any talk of the epidemic of lawlessness on the MSM? The people that have all the facts are idiots and those who have prejudged the case based on rumor and lies know it all.
socalvillaguy Premium Member almost 10 years ago
Nailed it again, Garry. Let the RWNJs head exploding festivities begin.
EnglishProf almost 10 years ago
Yes, the correct grammar is “lying,” but it is Roland who has shaky grammatical knowledge and not Trudeau. It makes sense that the ridiculous Fox reporter wouldn’t know the correct grammar, as he is a blowhard who spouts nonsense.
susan.e.a.c almost 10 years ago
In many countries they enforced quarantines: no Ebola cases at all, zero. Also, mass shootings in those countries haven’t risen year after year like they have in the US; I wonder why. Cultural, of course, teaching that rights have zero responsibility attached, but is that it?
susan.e.a.c almost 10 years ago
I didn’t hear any of this Ebola talk stuff, no idea what it refers to. Heard about poor foreign relations, putting DNC fundraisers into important positions, a DNC leader calling all her constituents stupid and racist, a lot of One Note DNC candidates, idiotic stuff about a ‘war on women’ that focused on stuff that had nothing to do with what women care about, an IRS and EPA and DoJ series of crimes, but no Ebola stuff besides the epidemic in Africa.
DoctorDan almost 10 years ago
“Yep and if they don’t have a gun they use kitchen knives or baseball bats and sometimes cars but we do not hear the screaming and shouting to outlaw those items .”
The reason why people aren’t shouting is that these items (and cars, too) all have constructive uses other than killing people. It’s a risk vs. utility question. Try going a week without using a car or a kitchen knife. But unless you’re a cop or a soldier, going a week without touching a gun is not only easy, it’s the norm.
jdi801 almost 10 years ago
Yeah, an epidemic of knife and baseball bat killings, up close and personal which most killers want no part of. Lemme know how many innocents you think will be killed by stray knives and bats, or how many will be killed in school mass knifings or battings.
Warren Wubker almost 10 years ago
Careful Trudeau, you could be getting racist.
jjff almost 10 years ago
Congress should have confirmed the nominated surgeon general who would have been the one to speak to the public about the ebola situation. Instead they cower to the nra.
pauljmsn almost 10 years ago
Perhaps comparison to gun violence isn’t relevant to the Ebola “epidemic”. AIDS in the 80s, on the other hand…Remind me again who the President was then, and how he reacted to the AIDS epidemic.
Uncle Joe almost 10 years ago
“There is an Ebola Crisis, just not in the USA. Did you know that? No, obviously you are oblivious to it.”The comic was about the media hysteria over ebola becoming an epidemic in the US. dtroutma was pretty clearly talking about that, not the real epidemic in west Africa. Maybe ease up on the coffee, Gaunt… :^)
marzipANn almost 10 years ago
A baseball bat says “I can hit a baseball.” A kitchen knife says “I can slice the pot roast.” A door stop says “I can keep this door open.” None of these cries out “Use me to kill that bird, that beast, that person.” Anyone can use a baseball bat to bludgeon a person to death, a kitchen knife to cut a person’s throat, a a door stop to hammer a person’s head, but they don’t incite violence silently, just by their presence. Gun laws that regulate the who, how and where of gun possession is no more of an imposition on citizens than vehicle registration or Rx requirement of potentially lethal medications.
lindz.coop Premium Member almost 10 years ago
True — there is, but it’s not Obama’s fault.
lindz.coop Premium Member almost 10 years ago
I think it’s quite simple — you can have all the guns you want, but you absolutely should be held totally responsible for what happens with those guns.
caligula almost 10 years ago
Guns don’t kill people, black men with guns kill OTHER black people . . . that along with suicides and death by cop out of the statistics and homicides have been on a sure and steady decline with other gun violence.