I have seen people get off a ship crying in relief (shuttle between France and the UK, worst storm ever, four hours waiting outside the harbour because the waves were too strong and everybody sick), so Thanksgiving sounds a good idea at the end of a bad cruise.
Once again, the first recognized Thanksgiving celebration in what became the colonies was held in 1619 at Berkeley Plantation, on the James River in Virginia.
And let’s dispense with the “religious freedom” crap. The Mayflower bunch already achieved that when they left England for Holland. They decided to leave Holland because their children were (HORRORS!!!!!!!) starting to play with Dutch children and starting to assimilate into the Dutch culture—you know, what we expect immigrants to this country to do..And another fun fact – a bunch of the Puritans went back to England some years later to fight in the English Civil Wars, on the side of the faction that had abolished the celebration of Christmas as being not religious enough.
I’ve read and heard plenty of the history behind Thanksgiving and other American holidays. Because no country, religion, or philosophy/worldview has a flawless history, it’s easy to point out the negative. I made up my mind a long time ago to lighten up, give thanks, and enjoy family, food, and football!
That’s not a mayflower on Frazz’s shirt, it’s a very rough rendering of a speedwell, which is the name of the sister ship of the Mayflower that apparently should have been named the “Colander” or some such.
Anyway, clearly the Pilgrims’ ordeal didn’t turn out to be a warning so much as the start of a national tradition.
Or maybe it was a warning, and an especially effective one, as the Pilgrims opted to stay through a brutal winter here and suffer unspeakable hardships when the Mayflower had to sail back to England, presumedly empty. Frequent Sailor Miles be damned.
cabalonrye about 7 years ago
I have seen people get off a ship crying in relief (shuttle between France and the UK, worst storm ever, four hours waiting outside the harbour because the waves were too strong and everybody sick), so Thanksgiving sounds a good idea at the end of a bad cruise.
Carl Premium Member about 7 years ago
12 hours on the PA Turnpike to go from the Ohio Border to Breezewood, 160 miles one Thanksgiving. Never again.
sandpiper about 7 years ago
Once again, the first recognized Thanksgiving celebration in what became the colonies was held in 1619 at Berkeley Plantation, on the James River in Virginia.
Look it up, folks
C0MM0N-tater about 7 years ago
THEY MADE IT! I think that would be a good reason to be thankful!
wellis1947 Premium Member about 7 years ago
Actually, Frazz was being ‘tactful’. ‘Slow-learning’ is just a flowery way of saying, “STUPID!”
phoenixnyc about 7 years ago
And let’s dispense with the “religious freedom” crap. The Mayflower bunch already achieved that when they left England for Holland. They decided to leave Holland because their children were (HORRORS!!!!!!!) starting to play with Dutch children and starting to assimilate into the Dutch culture—you know, what we expect immigrants to this country to do..And another fun fact – a bunch of the Puritans went back to England some years later to fight in the English Civil Wars, on the side of the faction that had abolished the celebration of Christmas as being not religious enough.
JoeMartinFan Premium Member about 7 years ago
I’ve read and heard plenty of the history behind Thanksgiving and other American holidays. Because no country, religion, or philosophy/worldview has a flawless history, it’s easy to point out the negative. I made up my mind a long time ago to lighten up, give thanks, and enjoy family, food, and football!
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] about 7 years ago
Frazz
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That’s not a mayflower on Frazz’s shirt, it’s a very rough rendering of a speedwell, which is the name of the sister ship of the Mayflower that apparently should have been named the “Colander” or some such.
Anyway, clearly the Pilgrims’ ordeal didn’t turn out to be a warning so much as the start of a national tradition.
Or maybe it was a warning, and an especially effective one, as the Pilgrims opted to stay through a brutal winter here and suffer unspeakable hardships when the Mayflower had to sail back to England, presumedly empty. Frequent Sailor Miles be damned.