I have to give Ramirez this one. The Biden admin did an imperfect job of getting everybody out who wanted out. Of course so did the Brits, so it’s not JUST Biden. Sad and bad, though.
PS: I’ll bet you campaign to swill that Varvel would absolutely HATE the idea of having “those people” in his neighborhood. Or paying to help them get settled in.
What hypocritical indignation. The former guy would have left the nearly 200,000 in Afghanistan that Biden was able to evacuate, like he left the Kurds in Northern Syria. There wasn’t a peep from the right wing over that. They really don’t care. It’s just something to be overly critical about.
We can go back to the Hungarians who looked in vain for America to aid them as promised in their uprising against the Soviets, President Dwight Eisenhower presiding, and work our way back up.
We could spare a thought for the Montagnards, abandoned to massacre and displacement after American withdrawal, President Gerald Ford presiding.
We could remember the Kurds who were slaughtered as American troops watched after Gulf War I, President George H. W. Bush presiding.
And the Kurds fighting ISIS who were slaughtered by Turks, President Donald J. Trump presiding.
Varvel has the basics right here. It’s not just USA, either. A family waiting to exit to Canada was attacked last week, losing a ten year old daughter. The Taliban government is bad enough, but the Qaliban crowd is looking to cause as much trouble as possible.
You mean the same Taliban that 45 gave away the farm to on an exit agreement that pretty much guaranteed war and more loss of American lives while getting nothing in return?
Biden had to abide by the tenets Trump set up with the Taliban for the US Withdrawal from Afghanistan. We stayed in that country for far too long, propping up a corrupt government. While we had good intentions getting involved in that country to get Osama Bin Laden (who was finally caught and killed, under Obama), whereas we went into Iraq based on faulty intelligence at best. We finally cut our losses and now we have to look out for the Afghanis who did make it out. We can at least give them an opportunity to rebuild their lives.
I hope Varvel appreciates that he wouldn’t have much readership if it wasn’t for those of us who come here denigrate his dumb ideas. YOU’RE WELCOME, GARY!
Bloody Joe Biden went on National TV and said under no circumstances would Americans be left behind, in fact he said it several times. The buck stops with Biden. This is already being judged as the worst debacle in American history. For all the apologists making excuses for Biden’s failure, the Pentagon was pleading with him to handle the evacuation differently and keep Bagram AFB open until it was finished. Biden and his handler’s said no. They had plans on hand and to be ready to be implemented for the orderly and complete withdrawal from Afghanistan and Biden used none of them. Even after Biden called a halt to the evacuation, there were still private organizations that continued to fly Americans out or move them overland to Pakistan. Did the Biden administration help them? No, Biden threw every roadblock he could at them to impede their efforts.
Concretionist over 2 years ago
I have to give Ramirez this one. The Biden admin did an imperfect job of getting everybody out who wanted out. Of course so did the Brits, so it’s not JUST Biden. Sad and bad, though.
PS: I’ll bet you campaign to swill that Varvel would absolutely HATE the idea of having “those people” in his neighborhood. Or paying to help them get settled in.
RAGs over 2 years ago
Being held by the ones Trump released and sent home?
apfelzra Premium Member over 2 years ago
These people are obviously Muslims. Why would they be talking about Christmas, or doesn’t Mr. Varvel know any better?
B 8671 over 2 years ago
This is low Varvel; even for you!
My First Premium Member over 2 years ago
Good one, Gary. Biden said he’d leave no one behind. All he does is LIE! #FJB
2AndFour over 2 years ago
Biden left Americans abandoned in Afghanistan. Liberals just don’t care.
1BlackLivesMatter Premium Member over 2 years ago
Dementia Joe abandons 250 Americans in Afgan – Let’s go, Brandon!
monya_43 over 2 years ago
What hypocritical indignation. The former guy would have left the nearly 200,000 in Afghanistan that Biden was able to evacuate, like he left the Kurds in Northern Syria. There wasn’t a peep from the right wing over that. They really don’t care. It’s just something to be overly critical about.
b.john71 over 2 years ago
American citizens were abandoned when we pulled out. Does it matter what faith they follow?
brit-ed over 2 years ago
Does Varvel even know that Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet?
The Nodding Head over 2 years ago
We can go back to the Hungarians who looked in vain for America to aid them as promised in their uprising against the Soviets, President Dwight Eisenhower presiding, and work our way back up.
We could spare a thought for the Montagnards, abandoned to massacre and displacement after American withdrawal, President Gerald Ford presiding.
We could remember the Kurds who were slaughtered as American troops watched after Gulf War I, President George H. W. Bush presiding.
And the Kurds fighting ISIS who were slaughtered by Turks, President Donald J. Trump presiding.
And so many… too many more.
grange Premium Member over 2 years ago
Varvel has the basics right here. It’s not just USA, either. A family waiting to exit to Canada was attacked last week, losing a ten year old daughter. The Taliban government is bad enough, but the Qaliban crowd is looking to cause as much trouble as possible.
fusilier over 2 years ago
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/30/us-generals-say-afghanistan-collapse-rooted-in-trump-taliban-deal
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54968200
What, exactly would YOU have done, Mr. Varvel? Continue the occupation and have MORE Indiana girls and boys come home in a box?
fusilier
James 2:24
DrDon1 over 2 years ago
Did Varvel express any concern when the Liar-in-Chief {also, the COVID-19 Denier-in-Chief} abandoned the Afghani people when he was in office?
[ Just more hypocrisy from Varvel. ]
LJZ Premium Member over 2 years ago
The huddled group had plenty of chance to evacuate beforehand but chose to stay. We are still evacuating;
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/over-900-american-citizens-permanent-residents-left-afghanistan-with-us-help-2021-12-13/
dpatrickryan Premium Member over 2 years ago
You mean the same Taliban that 45 gave away the farm to on an exit agreement that pretty much guaranteed war and more loss of American lives while getting nothing in return?
librarylady59 over 2 years ago
If they were Hispanics, would Varvel be so sympathetic.
Northgalus2002 over 2 years ago
Biden had to abide by the tenets Trump set up with the Taliban for the US Withdrawal from Afghanistan. We stayed in that country for far too long, propping up a corrupt government. While we had good intentions getting involved in that country to get Osama Bin Laden (who was finally caught and killed, under Obama), whereas we went into Iraq based on faulty intelligence at best. We finally cut our losses and now we have to look out for the Afghanis who did make it out. We can at least give them an opportunity to rebuild their lives.
Another Take over 2 years ago
I hope Varvel appreciates that he wouldn’t have much readership if it wasn’t for those of us who come here denigrate his dumb ideas. YOU’RE WELCOME, GARY!
lawguy05 over 2 years ago
Well done, Gary! Allies and citizens – of any color – should not be forgotten.
Kracklin Rosie - “Tolo Dan Nan Galad” Premium Member over 2 years ago
Bloody Joe Biden went on National TV and said under no circumstances would Americans be left behind, in fact he said it several times. The buck stops with Biden. This is already being judged as the worst debacle in American history. For all the apologists making excuses for Biden’s failure, the Pentagon was pleading with him to handle the evacuation differently and keep Bagram AFB open until it was finished. Biden and his handler’s said no. They had plans on hand and to be ready to be implemented for the orderly and complete withdrawal from Afghanistan and Biden used none of them. Even after Biden called a halt to the evacuation, there were still private organizations that continued to fly Americans out or move them overland to Pakistan. Did the Biden administration help them? No, Biden threw every roadblock he could at them to impede their efforts.
Eclectic Wanderer over 2 years ago
Thank Trump and the half-assed, incompetent American Withdrawal he forced on President Biden