Student: Condors are beautiful and free. I wish I were a condor!
Caulfield: You did read they eat only dead stuff.
Student: Oh.
Caulfield: Although, when you think about it, so do we.
Student: Crush my dreams or gross meow. Pick one.
But at least our dead stuff, except my salad, is cooked and not scraped off the road. When I worked at a raptor rehab center, nearly all of our vultures and most of our Bald Eagles came in from car accidents from eating road kill. A non-moving meal saves the most energy for the devourer.
Darwin didn’t know about Mendel, so he didn’t understand the randomness of genetic mutation. But his whole point was that natural variation within a species would create new species over time, guided by natural selection. Natural selection (as opposed to the artificial selection by which humans create new breeds of domesticated animals) imposes a purposefulness on the randomness, the purpose of perpetuating the species.
(Someone might try to argue that the environmental circumstances of individual survival are still random, but that’s missing the point. Evolution operates on populations and over long periods.)
(@franbarces: Do you want us to clear our discussions with you first? Sorry that your horizons are so limited.)
“Evolution functions on environmental pressures. If there are few or none evolution stops or nearly so.”
True enough for natural selection, but don’t forget that complex organisms crate their own pressures through sexual selection, which can create variation and speciation (some of it quite spectacular) even when the environment is pretty much constant.
Go read Temple Grandin’s Animals in Translation. She showed a species evolving (slightly) to fit its circumstances in a ten-year time frame. Pressure equaled change.
Your choice; I hope you do understand that understanding and accepting evolution and a personal belief in Jesus are not mutually exclusive, if you want to go that route.
The flaw in the probabilistic argument is that the changes aren’t independent… Nobody’s suggesting that random particles simply rearranged themselves into a complex life form by chance. The theory you have just demolished is a straw man of your own construction.
You like to make stuff up, don’t you?“All the phyisics (sic) people are theists now”.Bollocks.“the CA condor (which in nature would already be gone, bad at getting food and s*x)”.Bollocks again.
emjaycee over 11 years ago
But at least our dead stuff, except my salad, is cooked and not scraped off the road. When I worked at a raptor rehab center, nearly all of our vultures and most of our Bald Eagles came in from car accidents from eating road kill. A non-moving meal saves the most energy for the devourer.
barbara chaffin Premium Member over 11 years ago
this is a comic strip not a forum for your beliefs
Varnes over 11 years ago
To tell you the truth I’m not that big on eating live things….Ya’ll go ahead……
vwdualnomand over 11 years ago
we eat a lot of stuff. bacteria(yogurt and cottage cheese). animals(from snout to tail), plants, insects, blood, snakes, lizards, etc…
pschearer Premium Member over 11 years ago
Darwin didn’t know about Mendel, so he didn’t understand the randomness of genetic mutation. But his whole point was that natural variation within a species would create new species over time, guided by natural selection. Natural selection (as opposed to the artificial selection by which humans create new breeds of domesticated animals) imposes a purposefulness on the randomness, the purpose of perpetuating the species.
(Someone might try to argue that the environmental circumstances of individual survival are still random, but that’s missing the point. Evolution operates on populations and over long periods.)
(@franbarces: Do you want us to clear our discussions with you first? Sorry that your horizons are so limited.)
LeoAutodidact over 11 years ago
Back to FRAZZ:
Caulfield goes for the TwoFer.
(DreamCrush AND GrossOut, SCORE!)
magicwalnut over 11 years ago
Incredibly interesting discussion here, Frazz fans! Thank you!!!
Stephen Gilberg over 11 years ago
Technically, everything we eat is dead, except for those of us who have pica.
puddleglum1066 over 11 years ago
“Evolution functions on environmental pressures. If there are few or none evolution stops or nearly so.”
True enough for natural selection, but don’t forget that complex organisms crate their own pressures through sexual selection, which can create variation and speciation (some of it quite spectacular) even when the environment is pretty much constant.
Potrzebie over 11 years ago
MIllions of years down the road, Blatarria Sapiens will see fossils of humans and claim that they couldn’t have evolved to adapt to their environment.
androscoggin over 11 years ago
You’d rather eat animals when they are still alive?!
Rick Smith Premium Member over 11 years ago
Why do you think now is the result of nothing but “boxcars?”
amaryllis2 Premium Member over 11 years ago
Go read Temple Grandin’s Animals in Translation. She showed a species evolving (slightly) to fit its circumstances in a ten-year time frame. Pressure equaled change.
lbatik over 11 years ago
Your choice; I hope you do understand that understanding and accepting evolution and a personal belief in Jesus are not mutually exclusive, if you want to go that route.
Hawthorne over 11 years ago
Life isn’t statistics, or a mathematical problem, much as a lot of people would like to make it that. Life finds its own path.
For individuals, life is a gamble. Life itself is an ongoing process,
androgenoide over 11 years ago
The flaw in the probabilistic argument is that the changes aren’t independent… Nobody’s suggesting that random particles simply rearranged themselves into a complex life form by chance. The theory you have just demolished is a straw man of your own construction.
water_moon over 11 years ago
I’m sorry, I had a cousin with a MRS infection. Evolution exists, but our life cycle is too long to appreicate it.
Randy B Premium Member over 11 years ago
You like to make stuff up, don’t you?“All the phyisics (sic) people are theists now”.Bollocks.“the CA condor (which in nature would already be gone, bad at getting food and s*x)”.Bollocks again.
DKHenderson 3 months ago
Clearly she didn’t see a picture of one, either. Like the buzzards in Ohio, they only look beautiful in the air.