Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for November 19, 2013

Okay, MJ ! Your turn!…

“Model Students”“Agent Poseur-Tour”“The Grand Illusion”“Happy Shiny People”or “Too Posed For Comfort”

How about no one’s turn?

What cracks me up about college brochures whenever I see them is that all the photos of the students hardly look educated to me. Some of their expressions even look stupid.

Do these colleges really think it’s a good use of their money to send out brochures to Luann?

WTF? That was not my experience in college at all. You are cray cray.

And don’t forget the reports of which schools have the best parties….

“Sponsored” by:Stepford Tech… “Home of the Fighting Perfectionists!”…"Earn your masters in Mechanical Design, or Electronics!‘…"Education that’s almost too good to be true!"… – Jolin College… “Lots of Fine Arts programs, but only one with world renowned accreditation in the arts and music!”…"Jolin College…where true artists are drawn !"… -Star Tech At Vogue State University… “Famous Five-Year programs in Engineering, Sciences, Diplomatic Relations, Lead Acting, Tumbling, Special Effects, Photography/Cinema and Stage Work”… “Come explore new places, with STVSU!”… – Online Tele/Sumwan-Hugh Caerrz Institute Of Secondary Thoughts… “Whether you choose our in-person classes, or our internet program, your tuition is still important to us!” – and by…Pitts Community State Tech…"Those other schools are just stupid. We don’t need a tag line or anything, we’re just closer and cheaper. Oh, yeah… PCST….yay."

Keep the politics out of this. If you want to make these remarks, go comment on the Mallard Fillmore comic strip.

I’m still waiting for Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Michigan, etc. to have both the Number one honors program grad rating, and the number one party school listing at the same time …. it’s never “the best of both worlds”, is it?

Forgot about that…. and I hear the Business Enterprising building keeps getting damaged and they reconstruct a new one constantly….

Right on!

Truly!

I can see the picture on the pamphlet for “Borg Tech”… smiling, happy drones kids, staff… both working hand in hand, and the Dean, affectionately nicknamed “the Queen” and “senior borg” helping out some newer, inexperienced ones… Borg Teachers warmly assisting students with projects…. and pictures of the "Fighting Drones, the national tourney champions…. -And their selling points in the brochure:Borg Tech… “Upon arriving, you will be assimilated into our wonderfully grand institution of IT Techs and Programmers!…Your academic and social achievements will be added to our own… resistance to pay tuition is…..futile…”“Many students, one mind, one voice… We are Borg!”…

Don’t feed the troll, and he or she will go away!!

Ahh, Goodoleboy A&M!Billy Bob "Bob Bob "Jim Bob "Joe Bob "Lee Bob " andRay Bob "

A family tradition for over 75 years

“Let the s***kickin’ begin!”

Wow, my family name on the Luann strip, what a cool honour for an amateur cartoonist like me… I am simultaneously smiling and blushing! :D (Wonders if there is an actual Jolin college) , Thx Greg :)

At Jolin College, you never see stressed-out Freshmen… we hide them in the basement ;) (JK)

Oh, and thx Karen, too!

Aw* thx

“Perfectly diverse group of happy laughing friends”. Pretty astute, Luann. The giant gap between the visions we are supposed to have and how the real world happens to land on us.

I am definitely impressed!

Politics and Comics only have one thing in common

Politicians….

Wow, Physics, Electrical Engineering… good creds, there! – Yeah, I’m pretty sure a lot of the good schools don’t want the word to get out, Lol!

And they both lead to skills that will stay in demand, to boot!

Having the picture to be different from the actual results also applies to other situations, as well… for instance, in certain fast food commercials, the burgers are always “neatly arranged”, with the cheeses (if you want it with cheese) and condiments in proper place, made and served by smiling, productive employees whose immediate superiors look upon their work smilingly and approvingly, all the while, the customers are patiently and appreciatively ordering and awaiting said orders… – Cut to actual events in a fast food place (with a bit of hyperbole for effect): People are pacing in line, customers and workers scramble and jostle about, babies crying, drive through speakers blare indistinguishable voices on both sides, frowny faces dispensing and consuming food… and in the middle of all of this “madness”? The burger that gets slapped onto your tray, or shoved into your drive-thru bag never looks anything like the picture on the menu, or the way it looks on TV…

“What? No Spazz – like freshman sitting in his dorm wailing for mommy? Frank actually nailed it ! "^That’s another thing, too! – And also, although some are very functional and even independent-minded and responsible, There are some who almost seem to have never functioned (relatively speaking) without their parents or siblings to tell them when to wake up, how to get around (including public transit, when necessary) or how to operate certain things… and for them, it can be a different world to get used to…

Yay, Mikeyj. You’re officially immortalized as a cartoonist.

I was thinking that you are as familiar with this as I am as we both have hs seniors.I laugh at the Northeast brochures as most of the college terms are in the winter when ground is covered with snow.

It’s nice to see Luann able to sit down and exchange snarky but understanding comments with her Dad. She’s growing up.

Yeah, that’s RIGHT Degroots!

POWER to the PEOPLE!!!!

Those Fascist Pig Brochures also left out scenes of Rioting College Students Rightfully PROTESTING the Imperialist WAR In Southeast Asia!!And FURTHERMORE…..,WAIT!!!

WHAT Year is THIS again????

or, one could go to a service academy. west point, annapolis, colorado springs, new london, or kings point.

Actually, I don’t know ANYONE who is pro-abortion, just people who want your nosy nose out ot their lives.

Gee, that sounds familiar. Good to know the catalogs haven’t changed in twenty years…

Ah geez, take the political and social discourse to another forum!! This is for Luann, and no one wants to really hear this….talk about the strip, and don’t use the excuse of “what Luann might think or do” as a base for pushing whatever your ideology is. Take it elsewhere!!!

JayBlue-Congratulations— yesterday you posted LAST and also were #100! Plus, your post actually pertained to the strip. Good work.

BS, MS, and PhD an overall GPA of 4.0.*MayKitten – Wow— which I’d known you. (Though you probably would just have added to my inferiority complex.) Please tell me your degrees were in basket-weaving.

Conga-Rats, Monsieur Mikeyj !^^Arigatou, Gweedo-san!

Someone needs naptime.

Any word yet on whether Luann will actually go to college this time or will she simply restart high school?

Good for you, Luann! Ditch the brochures and go visit the schools you’re interested in – take tours, go to open houses, ask a lot of questions – and you’ll find the school that’s right for you.

It appears Luann’s parents are liberal enough to let her go to her choice of colleges out of the ones who accept her. Some are told they have to go to the only college in their community, which for me was a tiny community college, because as they put it, “No decent girl lives away from her parents until she is married.” Luann, you go, girl! The world is open to you.

And yet, here you are, commenting anonymously on a comic strip thread about a girl in high school.

No, it’s not. Today’s Luann is about how funny it is that adverts about college always show happy kids, never kids with problems. I was a volunteer on a crisis switchboard at the U of Arizona, and our purpose was to help those very confused, scared freshmen who were away from home for the first time, facing possible school failure for the first time, etc.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (What we ended up dealing with, which the university should have anticipated, was a bunch of homeless Vietnam vets who were failed by the VA, but that’s another story.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yesterday, you indicated that you had debt for 10 years of college. I begin to understand why. If you went to school to preach a particular religious or political viewpoint rather than to LEARN something, you probably ran into a lot of trouble. I’ve been out of college for years, but I never found the rigid approach that you insist exists. If you are already convinced that you have all the answers to questions, don’t waste your and your professors time. Just set up your own uni or church and preach your own viewpoint.

Still, Frank is right about the confused, lonely stressed out freshpersons. :) As freshman, they did their best to house us “on campus” and in dorms with “double rooms” (i.e. with a room mate). They absolutely discouraged any freshman from occupying a “single” room, and with good reason.

We had a dorm “complex.” In fact it was called the “Foster-Walker Undergraduate Housing Complex” or “The Complex” for short. Originally to be eight separate houses arranged in two quads together like a sideways “8”, the decision was made to link them all internally (so the building actually looks like an 8). It’s in this photograph. Scroll to the far left in the middle..

Almost 800 rooms, and almost all of them “singles,” with only a few quads. Point being, some freshman, due to the on-campus housing shortage (at the time), were forced to take rooms in “The complex.” And, sure enough, most of the campus suicides were from freshman living in “the complex.” At one point, it got so bad that some one made up a black t-shirt with the words “The Complex” and a “chalk lining” of a body on the front, and the words “I survived” on the back. I still have mine. I lived there for pretty much my junior and senior years, when I got bumped there in the housing lottery.

But it’s a serious thing there. They have all kinds of freshman outreach and everything.

Like so many programs, they show you what they want you to see.

Wow, right back at ya JD.

Has Luann taken any college entrance exams, like the SAT or ACT? Perhaps when she sees her score, she will realize that she can dump these brochures, because Pitt CC is her destiny.

In your comment, you tell us that you are “pro-choice”. By definition, that means that if a pregnant woman “chooses” to kill her unborn baby, it’s o.k. with you; you support her decision.<L<Then you go on to tell us that you go to great lengths to “rescue” a pregnant female cat, and see to it that her kittens are well cared for.Now, I am a Christian, and I know what the Scriptures teach about human life. But, even if you do not share my beliefs, how in the name of reason does that make any sense? You are saying that a human life is less valuable than the life of a cat! Surely, you can’t really believe that.

It’s not only colleges that do that…the workplace is filled with this stuff…websites for prisons, for example…they show pics of nice, clean-cut men and women with stiffly starched uniforms….smiling…no way does that happen in real life…

that’s because you are a complete hypocrite and should be shunned by society!!

Thank you!!!!

Luann has inherited her dad’s skepticism, pessimism, and dry wit.

no!!!! you can find them!! When I was looking for a graduate program you wouldn’t believe what popped up in Google…schools with the ‘hottest chicks’ ‘easiest exams’ ‘best parties’ ‘lowest arrest rate’ (seriously!!) What the hell???

Well, Europe has its bad history of religious persecution, too, so the US is not alone. (Remember the Inquisition, Spain’s expulsion of the Jews, and the ‘final solution’ that the Nazis offered to eliminate Catholics, Jews, and anyone else not ‘Aryan’ enough.) -The US has a history that includes burning women at the stake for being ‘witches’, and a number of states that were founded by those who left Europe for religious freedom but promptly denied it to anyone else.

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Long story short: the concept of ‘unwanted pregnancy’ is an unaccepted concept to those who insist that their religious teaching is the only one that is correct, and it holds that sex is only allowable between a married man and woman.

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Therefore, if a pregnancy is ‘unwanted’ it is some kind of punishment from their diety for a bad action. The fact that a woman’s life can be endangered ( yes, even a married woman who wanted a child and that happened to my sister) is totally irrelevant in this restricted world.-

I’ve given up trying to point out to people that the US has one of the highest rates of maternal deaths in the industrialized world, and this is because so many women end up carrying a pregnancy that is dangerous to their health and for which they are unable to get basic prenatal care for themselves.

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The concept of sexual activity as a part of growing up is not part of the world, for those subscribing to this very rigid worldview. They are not satisfied with living this way themselves, but believe that they have a divine right to force others to live this way, too.

-I am honestly concerned that we will face a future with a Taliban-like group that regularly bombs the offices of doctors who provide abortions (it has happened before in the US), unless and until those who hold these views are prosecuted as often as those who sell illegal drugs.

I doubt this would prevent anyone from having friends – unless of course you are aggressively trying to proselytize your pro-life position. Then you are likely to have trouble making friends, for the same reason JW’s don’t make a lot of friends knocking on doors and interrupting people’s lives.

He’s a political troll. Pay no attention to him. He’s just trying to get a rise out of you.

Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) [This essay contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. Essays may represent widespread norms or minority viewpoints. Consider these views with discretion. Essays are not Wikipedia policies or guidelines.] – This page in a nutshell: If the debate has died, don’t revive it. (sic.)===There comes a point in every debate where the debate itself has come to a natural end. You may have won the debate, you may have lost the debate, or you may have found yourself in a draw. At this point you should drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass.- If a debate, discussion, or general exchange of views has come to a natural end through one party having “won” or (more likely) the community having lost interest in the entire thing, then no matter which side you were on, you should walk away. – If you don’t, if you continue to flog the poor old debate, if you try to reopen it, if you continually refer to old news, if you parade your triumph in the faces of others… you’re not really winning friends and influencing people. Instead, you are annoying the hell out of everyone nearby.If you have “won” – good for you. Now go about your business; don’t keep reminding us that your “opponent” didn’t “win”.If you have “lost” – sorry, hard luck. Now go about your business; don’t keep reminding us that your “opponent” didn’t actually “win” because of… whatever.If the debate died a natural death – let it remain dead. It is over, let it go. Nobody cares anymore. Hard to stomach, but you’re going to have to live with it. – So, the next time you find yourself standing over the body of a clearly-deceased horse: please don’t beat it. It won’t help. Let the poor animal rest in peace.===Though this is an essay from Wikipedia, to me it would seem quite apropos, here…. If you see someone starting something, why not let the “flames burn out” and then there can be peace? Or if the point has been thouroughly debated, no matter who “won” or “lost”, if it is unproductive, why not just let the “flames burn out”? And if the matter seems to run on without positive resolution, why not….. "Let a beaten horse rest in peace ?…..

And hopefully we can get back on track!

Or the photographers were hiding them

And now for something completely different: “That’s Why I Chose Yale”. http://youtu.be/tGn3-RW8Ajk

The reason that this cartoon has so many posts is that the participants get lost in the sidebar discussion. If we all stuck to the cartoon, there would be 10-20 comments like the other strips.

The length wasn’t mine… only the last part was… I made sure to point out that the whole thing was straight from Wikipedia…..

Actually, Lev’s was yesterday’s…. unless you just wanted to get that one zinger out! (;-) )

Cool Beans!

I went back to college a few years ago, and took a popular course of study (I was by far the oldest n my classes). At the end of the first semester, the powers that be started taking pictures for the new college brochure and came to one of my classes to grab people for the pictures. They picked six out of this class, of course a nice diverse group of people of color, and/or the most popular students. Academic achievement played no bearing on the choices. They were posed in various cutsy pictures, including dressed for graduation. Some of the ones in the graduation pictures were wearing the gold honors cords. Sad thing is, all six were either on academic suspension the next quarter, or just dropped out. But they sure looked good in their staged pictures…LOL

Another thing about some of the brochures, some of those “students” look a little too …photogenic… like “hired hands” with flawless features and great taste in designer clothes that never seem to get wrinkled and without narry a hair out of place… now, I know that there are some lookers (both faculty and student) but it’s “coincidental” that all the brochures have some pretty good looking people in them, Lol! Like instead of finding people for the pics who have good grades, it’s finding the people with good teeth, Lol! - Wonder too, if there are any who use “Shutterstock” pics so that fifty colleges have the “same group of students” in each of them, Lol!

I’m just guessing but I bet not everybody in The Netherlands has exactly the same attitude even if it is the corract attitude..

And yes, people do discuss ways of avoiding unwanted pregnancies. Further, condoms were developed by men for men in part as a way of avoiding unwanted pregnancies. (Also to avoid getting cooties.)

Engineering is applied science. It applies knowledge to real world problems. That’s what makes it fun.

Whenever I got college mail with the word “challenging” on it, I scratched it out and wrote “difficult”