Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for January 30, 2014

Knute must not have been able to clean off Greg’s tag on that stall… – So, everybody’s right…. that everybody’s wrong!… Wait… uh…(scratches head) – “Hound Dog” (Les) has returned to the shadows, where they keep the other ancillary characters… – Speaking of shadows…. A foot nears… who is it’s owner? …Are they coming in?… Or waiting for someone to take a trip ?…Wait… hopefully it’s not another boy band reunion!….

The first step toward improvement is recognizing there is a flaw.

Yay! She appreciates him! So kiss him, already, geez.

It must be true love!?

At least they are as mixed up as everyone else was in yesterday’s comments.

That’s what I wuz gunna say. The kiss is coming!

“We’re A Couple… Of What?”“Pass The Peas ….And The Blame…”“♪….You Wanna Go Where Everybody Knows You’re To Blame…♪”

“Three Sides To Every Floor-y”

“♪….Out House… In The Middle Of Our Street…♪” or “♪…Blame! We’re Gonna Sit Together!…♪”

Two very likable characters… good work Greg!

Well, at least the air has cleared as to who was doing what to whom and why! (It sure is nice to be here early in the comments because I just gave up yesterday, there were so many of them!) Now, as honeysum was saying, where’s the kiss? Perhaps tomorrow… ;)

Gawsh – Crystal looks affectionate! We have hope.

Funny !! Lol. :-)

Aww

The Kiss is coming and that foot around the corner is Mr. Fogarty on his way to the restroom.

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I heard somewhere that bathroom stalls were great dates… that there are restaurants with bathroom themes, like “Restroom Café”, complete with “sound effects” and sprinklers that simulate a romantic rainforest scene…..But, I think I heard that from someone in a restroom stall……

Write him a poem, Crystal.

FHEO!!!

They’re an “us” at last! Awww….!

Notice all the people in the hallway? They are holding their own!

Do other people make out on the floor of the men’s room?

Nope, only us…

ENOUGH, Already.

Knute? “NO Good Deed Goes UNPUNISHED.” Therefore, ItsYOUR Fault.Its ALWAYS The Male’s “Fault” Whether It IS or NOT, So LEARN That and LIVE by That, Son.

Now, Its seems that Your STUPID “Bathroom Cleaning” Fetish and Your Slavish Indulgence of EVERY “Female Whim” Has Made YOU and ENEMY of One Leslie Knox, So I’d Get USED to those Punches, if I were You.

Speaking of “Punches,” Members of the School’s Local Custodial Union would like a “Word” with YOU, also…..,

As long as someone gets punched out in this strip, I’m quite happy, thanks.If the Greaser/Needlenose was a one-off puncher and the rest of the week isn’t going to be spent in the pursuit of revenge, I’ll just take a moment to ask whether any other people in this school don’t want to use the loo, and if not, why.

What is taking that guy so long? How long does it take to clean a bathroom?

Knute’s benefitting from taking one for Crystal, because her remote and distant cool has given way to open concern. This could mark a break-through moment for their relationship, especially since it has also shown Knute in a more serious mode than has been his wont….

I’m beginning to see a trend. Toni fell off a ladder and Brad saved her from a nasty injury – but he was injured. She soon declared that she loved him..Now, Crystal was saved embarrassment in a men’s room by Knute – but he was attacked. She will be emotionally affected by this..Wonder what attracted Nancy to Frank…….

Dream Date. I need to try this one. lol

Yes, but they stay in the shadows!.Is that a film noir theme?

Because, yeah, Knute would’ve done this ONLY for Crystal and not any other female (Bernice, Luann, Miss Allison, Miss Phelps, Delta, Nancy, Toni, Rosa, Mrs.Horner, Tiffany) that he’d let into the restroom. Knight in shining armor. Right.

I am glad Knute cleaned that bathroom floor. I don’t know many public bathrooms where I would sit on the floor outside a toilet stall. But he earns many, many points with Crystal here!

The shadow coming is likely the Principle, about to walk in on them, and assume they were …. you know, making out, & stuff….

Meanwhile, outside, EVERYBODY’s waiting!

-Um, have you never noticed that bathrooms have sinks? Or are you suggesting communal toothbrushes?-Some of us carry travel toothbrushes (fold up and fit into pockets) just in case, for those lunch meetings and such….

Evans is a little lax with his picture if not his story continuity; Les should still be in the restroom from his direction of travel yesterday, unless he exited in the between strip time Crystal de-throned herself and settled on the floor next to Knute,<BTW – where’d K stash his cleaning accouterments between Monday and Tuesday? And as I’ve never seen him with a mop bucket, that floor must be filthy!

So sweet, this will bring them closer. Crystal did the right thing, admitted it was her fault for using the boys bathrooms. Now she should see if Knute is okay and get him medical help if he needs it. Knute is sweet too, just not real bright.

Gee, guess Leslie didn’t really NEED to go … so he WENT.\^^Where do you see that? In yesterday’s strip, Les was heading AWAY from the door, towards the stalls, for all you know, he’s feeding the fishes as we speak

Taking over a public restroom for one’s private use, making its intended users wait for you (no matter how late they were running, or how urgently they needed to use it) is " boorish behavior and undeserved of defending."

Sorry, I’m not going to read 68 more comments (running late), but It might not be time for a kiss right now. Didn’t he throw up yesterday? Or almost?

Harry, Hermione and Ron did.

And who says that Crystal and Knute didn’t kiss already at the New Year’s Dance?… Could be she is a bit more discreet about when and how she kisses… or maybe they kissed at other times, “in between panels” around that time or another…. some people are couples on the “down low”, and some are couples that “commit” to being this, but don’t go around ‘broadcasting’ it (different from the DL, where they could be denying it), or could be friends that have shared a peck or smooch every now and then, but never “made it official”….

If a male teacher or principal wanted to enter the bathroom do you think Knute would have told them to wait? Of course he wouldn’t.

You have yet to explain to many another Commenter why Knute and Crystal’s actions deserve defending as a “propriety” that trumps how others are treated .If you favor the female of the species, say so. Don’t get snarky when others state that there is gender equality to be considered, when it comes to the use of a facility.That Les is a peripheral and labeled “bad” character in this strip is analogous to my scaring the pigeons away from the birdfeeder because I prefer that the cardinals eat there.

♪♪ Just the two of us…. building castles in the sky just the two of us, you and I ♪♪

Crystal hoped she could quickly use an empty toilet without bothering anyone else..That does not make her selfish and evil.. When she asked Knute to watch for her, she could very well have meant for him to warn HER not to impede others..When Knute asked Leslie to wait a sec, he was requesting an indulgence most humans would have granted..When the response was “sounds like fun” rather than “okay, no sweat” or “sorry, this can’t wait”, that probably sounded threatening..While we KNOW Leslie wouldnever do anything wrong and is too powerful to stop if he does, Knute responded as best he could to a perceived threat..

The EVIL, SELFISH acts of Crystal and Knute have not managed yet to set them on the same ethical level as sweet little Leslie even if he had an UNALIENABLE RIGHT to always use any facility with a stick figure of a male on it.. Nonetheless, if you believe Knute and Crystal have not yet been sufficiently punished for their sins, perhaps you can find joy in imagining Knute dying of internal injuries such as finished off Harry Houdini and Crystal being infected with a flesh-eating bacterium Knute missed and which will eat off both legs, her right arm, lips and left ear..Surely you aren’t THAT offended by Crystal and Knute’s actions?

Okay, quit arguing, get Knute to the nurse’s office and report the incident.

Except for TJ, of course?

You are also thinking Crystal wanted to “take over a public restroom” also assumes that was her intent. She wanted — nay NEEDED — to use the facilities of an empty room..I just happen to be blessed with comic-character ESP, so only I know her TRUE thoughts. She was on the verge of an explosive discharge which would have tied up a Hazardous Materials team for the rest of the day and shut down the school for two weeks..At great personal risk and against her delicate sensibilities, she braved No Woman’s Land to protect her fellow students and all others within a three block radius..Her only other concern was for those others who might succumb to the gaseous releases. Knute joined her in attempting to protect others, even misunderstood Leslie..In fact it was the smell which actually drove Leslie away and left Knute stupefied on the floor, gasping for REAL air.

@seismic-2 and @ReallyBad — You seem to think nobody should ever “take over” the restroom.

It’s far more common — and appropriate — than you might imagine. As I noted yesterday, it happens whenever the cleaning people are in there.

But it also happens exactly as shown in the strip here: public buildings NEED more restrooms/stalls for women than men. I’ve often seen exactly this scenario take place, where the men’s room is empty while the women’s is full.

I sure hope you would not be as boorish as Leslie in real life when you encounter this scenario. It will likely happen to you some day.

Peace.

“Courtesy” would dictate that Crystal put the needs of the many (all the male students who needed access to “their” restroom) above the needs of the few (apparently only herself, since no other girls made a similar request of Knute). Taking a public restroom for your private use is rude, period.

That’s the way it is, alright.

let her have it Knut

I hope she left the seat up and didn’t flip the roll of toilet paper where it rolls against the wall.

Leaving out my own experience in never seeing a restroom that small with two doors;Crystal references THE door when she asks Knute to stop hanging around while she does her business.Les enters through the only door visible in the interior and exterior views of the restroom. And since he’s the dastardly sort, he was headed straight to the “handicap” stall at the end of the row before Knute intercepted him.

Some rationalization is going on here. It is time to accept the fact that school restrooms should not be coed.

“It seems that if you are bad here, you are bad thru and thru and can never be redeemed.”.I find it amusing that you (of all people) would say this… given that you are describing your own attitude towards TJ.

I would think that there is a janitorial closet near every bathroom in the school, so that one would not have to transport the cleaning equipment very far. Just common sense.^Not all bathrooms are near one…. especially if it’s a place with a smaller number of restrooms…. – The original campus of the school that my wife works at (and I have volunteered for) has a few bathrooms on two floors, but only one utility area for cleaning supplies, etc… it’s near the bathroom on the east end, but one has to walk across to the west end of the building for the other bathroom, or go downstairs to the ones on the lower level… – Some public buildings/schools have them around the corner from various ones… and some will have one in each different wings/buildings, one for each set of bathrooms there… – In these cases, one has to plan their cleaning routes accordingly, to make sure to get to each room when it’s time to clean… – As a Health Information Clerk, I’ve had to travel to different parts of the different buildings in the hospital, and have come to notice pretty much the same thing… – It all depends on how new/old the building is, the “original purpose” of the previous design (especially if it was converted from a building for one purpose to another, like from an old warehouse to a school, etc.), and how they went forward with any remodeling/renovations (if applicable)…

Actually, Ann did try to fool Ox… but try was all she could do….he and his money wasn’t parted….. he has shown that he is not dumb… people just like to stereotype, which he has referenced from his own words…

-Then there are his bad qualities-LOL!! No, really, tell us what you think of TJ…

You must mean that TJ was really named for Thomas Jefferson and that he is modelling his life after his namesake?

I’m waiting to see what’s next with Brad & Toni— also Luann & Quill…

I’d like to see Bernice take center stage some coming week; she has really been relegated to being a background character lately!

Luann falls and sprains her ankle. (08-09-01) Gunther ends up piggy backing her up a big hill. On 08 23-01, Luann rewards him. Story ends 08-25-01..Interleaved with this is the interlude of how Frank impressed Nancy during a sleepover. I couldn’t stop reading and THEN I found the early Crystal/Knute interaction, which gives new insight to the current arc..Thanks for your help, Levi!

Hey, I just remembered while at a big sporting event, one of the men’s rooms was opened to women only. Someone cared enough for the plight of women to do that…and there did not seem to be any nasty remarks about it from any of the male potential users of that bathroom… ;)

“41 to go to get to 200.” Oh, please, don’t do that…almost 400 is more than I can read at the same point in time (especially when I am half asleep!). I have to admit, though, it Would be fun to get a rise out of the usual suspects… ;)

Even OX would understand that jumping Les from behind was dumb.

There are all kinds of smarts in this world. People…. Book…. Street… Sports… You name it…. -Ox is not dumb. He is not academically gifted as Gunther is. He needs help learning in the way that Gunther gets good grades in (which is what gets pushed in schools)…. the learning of “how to cram a bunch of knowledge into your skull”, but he is smart in ways that Gunther is not…. the two smarts are “different fruits”. You can’t compare them. He’s not “book smart”. He doesn’t know the capital of Ohio. But again, he knows things that Gunther (and maybe some others) don’t. Not knowing words doesn’t make one “mentally challenged”. -

THNX

“Ox does not understand the words “ample”, “girth”, “intimidate”, “guardian”, “mentor”, and “brawn”, and admits he is not smart. He is mentally-challenged. "^ Those strips were showing that Gunther has a vast lexicon that he has mastered, compared to Ox… an “odd couple” of sorts. Ox thinks of things in ways that are less complicated than others. He admitted that he’s not as “smart” as Gunther, because he regards Gunther’s scholarly gifts as such.. but he has his own kind of smarts… he uses simple…. common…. sense .

“Every female in the strip is out of every guys league, with the possible exception of Luann. (Only talking about looks here folks, not intelligence, personality, fun factor etc)Look and Toni, then look at Brad, especially when they first met and he was still Potatohead. Mr. Evans had to give him a major upgrade because it was so lopsided. Rosa/Gunth, Crystal/Knute, Nancy/Frank, Tiffany/Ox?. Women are way hot in comparison to men that are way not.”

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And the only hot guys are Luann-love interests. Aaron Hill, Miguel, Stuart, Ben, Quill. The sole exception is TJ, who is definitely hot, but unattached. TJ, as I’ve said before, can’t be shown hitting on the underage girls in the strip, as he’s an adult. In the same vein, the adult hotties Stuart and Ben didn’t return Luann’s affections, as well they shouldn’t have. Oh, and there was Zane, Bernice’s love interest. This is the only exception to the adult-underage girl relationship, but it was short-lived and Zane cut it off—again, as well he should have, given how Bernice was going off the deep end over him.

Delta had a crush on a hot substitute teacher, once, too, but of course it went nowhere. Seems like the only person who gets to have a hot boyfriend is Luann.

1. The crown was clearly a parody, a ‘reasonable facsimile" of the Burger King Crown….2. He has a large appetite. His energy needs are “proportionally greater” than others, the same way that a real Ox would eat a larger amount than a Cat… 3. His parents gave him a card with a limit, the same way Tiffany’s parents gave her a card. His parents are able to afford it, and it is useful to him for his weekly lunches. His proportions for eating are just right for him . Not for anyone else. – You are also using general references to try to prove “mentally challenged”, but they have no correlation in this instance. A traffic sign is red, and cars stop at it, but it doesn’t mean that the sign says stop

You are the one trying to ‘spin things’. You ignore the fact that each of our body sizes/daily energy/calorie intake is different, proportional to our individual needs. a 6’5 320 pound person is not going to eat the same sized portions as a 5’5, 150-200 pound person.

Okay, 10 more to go, and we’ll have it!…

Well, you have fun doing that…

Again, you throw the number of calories in the food around, but not addressing the intake amount for the person eating them. – A person’s size and metabolism have much to do with it. Their intake and energy requirements are different. The same amount of calories could be good for the one, and not the other.

And most fast food has empty calories (though not all!), yet the same thing still holds true….

But you will want to be the plumber’s banker, after he’s done charging for the “consultation”….

See? Again, you’re the one “spinning things”… the whole bottom line is… it was Greg’s choice… it was Ox’s choice… it wasn’t your choice….

Who could have foreseen an entire change-of-topic?Friends, it’s a whole new Game!

While “Dick Tracy”, “Citizen Dog”, and a few others have impressive numbers as well, I doubt anyone will be able to sustain the numbers for here!… especially considering the number for Brad and Toni’s engagement… both in consecutive, and for the one 700+ day!….

The book showed him being able to do physics, yet he was unable to do “craft”, etc… – He was slow in learning, which made him “just below average intelligence”… but he was still functional in society…

And where’d you get that his mom “slept with the principal?” as " .. " says, it’s getting to be stretched to the point of ridiculousness, now….

And this from the hyperlink included in what you are referring to, also from Wikipedia:

Intellectual disability (ID) or general learning disability is a generalized disorder appearing before adulthood, characterized by significantly impaired cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors. Intellectual disability is also known as mental retardation (MR), although this older term is being used less frequently.12 It was historically defined as an intelligence quotient score under 70. Once focused almost entirely on cognition, the definition now includes both a component relating to mental functioning and one relating to individuals’ functional skills in their environment. As a result, a person with an unusually low IQ may not be considered intellectually disabled. Intellectual disability is subdivided into syndromic intellectual disability, in which intellectual deficits associated with other medical and behavioral signs and symptoms are present, and non-syndromic intellectual disability, in which intellectual deficits appear without other abnormalities.

Forrest Gump took delight in reading children’s books (he carried his copy of “Curious George” around with him), and when he watched a kid’s program on TV with his son, they both appreciated it the same. Ox’s delight in wearing a paper hat that Ann notes is intended for children shows that he too approaches the world from a child-like perspective. That doesn’t mean that they can’t function in an adult world, just that they do so as “old children”.

Exactly!….

I read the Luann/Gunther saga, but it took longer than you said what with leaving a bad poem each day

I put it in bold up there, for you… it’s right there…. – And the point of the movie and the book were both different… and the point of the movie centered on other things, though he was the central character….. – But as I just said to Seismic, I say the same to you…

And I didn’t learn that…. that scene just was forgotten to me (one where such morals I don’t agree with, either)…it is also inconsequential to proving or disproving anything, in the sense that the point was that it was a time when people disallowed on the basis of anything they perceived as “weak”, or “not like them”…

(As I answered you in yesterday’s comments section.) I didn’t say anything about Ox beating up on Les — and I suspect he wouldn’t have to. It seems to me that Ox has handled these situations without violence in the comic before. In fact, I think the whole concept of “Ox” is that situations can be handled without violence — even when you’re big enough to be a real bully.

I thought the bran/brawn substitution was fun because bran fit so well..

All people are mentally challenged some way or other. My brain used to shut down near miniskirts and plunging necklines.

At least near perfect memory means I can still enjoy anew each mental shutdown. Cause

Yeah what Brd said(I’m reading downward)

As if we ALL didn’t put on a Burger King crown every now and then

Since we are not the mayor of New York City, we don’t get to rell everybody else what and how much they can eat.LATER. The only say is where they eat

Remember how folks used to forcibly sterilize the mentally challenged?They also locked them up in insane assylums if they started to be confused.Turns out it is unconstitutional.

It is possible Oxford only tasted some of the items since he was trying the place out.Also you can buy a combo or just the sandwich..Not that it matters since I am not his mother

Yep, Oxford isn’t even here and he’s on our minds.TJ too

Don’t I know it! We’re not referred to as “Luannalyzers” on the “Cartoonist’s Studio” blog site, fer nuthin’……

At or below two standard deviations below the mean intelligence for mental retardation.

Further there are over twenty recognized forms of intelligence. Tests measure five to seven of those types.People can be below average in some and above average in others.Hence SLD, Specific Learning Disabilities