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Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for February 07, 2014
February 06, 2014
February 08, 2014
Transcript:
Rosa: "You just stood up to Leslie Knox!"
Gunther: "I know!"
Rosa: "You completely intimidated him!"
Gunther: "I know!"
Rosa: "So... Is this the new confident Gunther?"
Gunther: "I don't know"
G-man, you just won the Blooper Bowl!âŠWhere are you going, now?âŠâTo sleep!â⊠â Guntherâs so tough, Chuck Norris watches his movies!⊠â Does Gunther know that Rosa knows that he doesnât know if he knows that his "no"s are as good as coming out of his nose? Does she know that he knows whatâŠ. You know⊠he doesn- waitâŠ. Let me start overâŠ.
LesseeâŠ.ââȘâŠI Know But I Donât KnowâŠâȘâ (Blondie)âPoint Of Know Returnâ (Kansas)âDr. KnowââThatâs A No-Know!ââNo Knows Is Good KnowsââKnow-poleon DynamiteâhmmmâŠ.. I donât know âŠ.
âChain ReactionââUnintended ConsequencesââWhat They Donât Know Didnât Hurt ThemââGunther Fife For SheriffââG-man, Texas RangerââItâs Not What You Know But Who You Noâor âA Pebble In The Hand Is Worth Two Grasshoppersâ
Is anyone else kind of hoping that Gunther will suddenly gain confidence and do a perfect rendition of âYou and Iâ by Santana and Chad Kroeger?
Or maybe borrow some Taylor Swift lyrics? Come on Gunther, tell her âyou are the best thing that has ever been mineâ before she says âI knew you were trouble when you walked in, so shame on me.â
I just want Gunther to do something besides protect Rosa from bullies! He doesnât have a confident bone in his body unless someone is trying to physically harm his girlfriend. Greg Evans, your fictional character better use this incident to grow bigger juevos! Or Iâll⊠not do anything but be slightly annoyed for five seconds.
I certainly did not see todayâs strip coming! Now, Gunther, donât get too carried away with yourself! Once Leslie finds out there arenât any real cameras heâs going to be seriously ponked off⊠But, the way the action has shifted to Gunther and Rosa means to me that Leslieâs actions have shifted out of the stripâŠat least for today. And Gunther, you Can fluff yourself up without getting all tongue-tied and putting yourself down! ;)
Guntherâs confidence (and his wardrobe) supplied by:=GuntheradeâŠ.. âThe careful athleteâs energy drink!â⊠âEnergy boost, one sip at a time!âŠâ â Mr. Tâs frozen dinners⊠âAll meat, no fillers.â âŠ"I pity the Tofu!ââŠ.. â CheatiesâąâŠ. Official breakfast of the Know-lympics!â⊠â and byâŠPlotzâ convenience storesâŠ
âOnce Gunther finds out why Les is backing offâŠâ I can see him making a costume that will fool everyone into thinking this Gunther is not really our Gunther at all⊠Hey, Gunth! I have a motorcycle helmet if you want! Put down the visor and voila! No more GuntherâŠor so he thinks⊠;)
Reminds me of a âDennis the Menaceâ where they all were flying (IIRC, it was all a dream in Mr. Wilsonâs head)⊠once Mr. Wilson finally got into it and everybody was enjoying their newfound âwingsâ, Mr. Wilson said: âWeâre flying! I donât believe it!!!!â Thatâs when he stoppedâŠ..and woke upâŠ.
For those who were knocking Guntherâs âfalseâ heroism the day beforeâŠ.
He did not know about Crystals story to Leslie about cameras. So when he told Leslie of to âPick those upâ he was reacting to defend Rosa in all honesty, not because he knew it was a sham.
Did it without thinking.Now that he has time to reflect is when the case of nerves sets in.
âUnless this moment translates into Gunther getting the confidence⊠Three panels into having a conversation with Rosa, you can see him losing his confidence.â And I so wanted Gunther to continue to hold himself up! But IJB is rightâŠonce Gunther starts to Think, all is lostâŠat least for todayâs strip, anyway⊠;)
"⊠It showed Dennis holding a skull up for his rather aghast looking mom to see. The caption was, âMom! Look what I found in Mr. Wilsonâs head!â^Yeah, thatâs classic âMalice Mitchellâ for ya⊠. can go to war against the vermin that lives in the pillowcasesâŠ. but yet always afraid of the âhead-bugsââŠ.
âAs a character, Guntherâs comedic potential is rooted in his being an eccentric, timid nerd.â Youâre rightâŠbut sometimes he isnât funny when, for example, he puts himself down too muchâŠit is almost painful to watchâŠbut then, I used to be a sort of eccentric nerd myself in my teen years, so I guess Guntherâs loss of confidence in himself comes awfully close to home⊠;)
> New confident Gunther? Hardly! Heâs already proven he can defend Rosa against Leslie Knox.>What heâs âprovenâ is that he can be the one to initiate physical violence (using a backpack as a bludgeon), provided he repeatedly denies that this is what heâs doing, and itâs only an accident. Then when it comes time actually to stand up to Leslie, he defers to Ox. What a man!
From the Principalâs reaction to Leslieâs confession, I take that there are no cameras. Leslie may try to take it out on Gunther (which could lead to more issues) but he should be more upset with Crystal.
âOh, so now Gunther is re-cast as a bully???!!!â-ââââââââââWhere do you see Gunther recast as a Bully?Cut and paste the quote, itâs not that hard.
Gunther is not a hero, he is not overly confident, but he speaks up when someone is being a jerk. It is a personality trait some people have, and it shocks others when it appears because it isnât what they expect from that person. The behavior is like a parent protecting his/her children or a bull protecting his heifers.
-Leslie was only intimidated because he thinks there are security cameras around. Once he finds out there arenât, itâll be back to business as usual-Sadly, you are rightâŠ
-Personally Iâm not really sure what Rosa wants-You are not sure what Rosa wants because, just like the character Gunther, you are not paying attention to what Rosa is saying.-She has repeatedly mourned the fact that she has to be the one to invite him on dates. Did you ever hear of the movie âHeâs Not Into Youâ, where guys would tell girls âIâll call youâ when they really meant "Ok, we went out on a date and youâre not really what I want, but I donât want to just come right out and say so.â-So the girl waits for the phone call that never comes, or keeps inviting the guy to go out and he might accept or might not. BUT he never invites her anywhere.-What Rosa wants isnât for Gunther to give up college just because she might go to the Peace Corps first. She wants him to show that heâs interested by inviting her on a date or to a dance, or starting a kiss. Otherwise, she figures heâs not really interested.
-WHY does she like Gunther?-Why does any girl like a guy or vice versa? Thereâs an attraction that happens, or else it doesnât.-Go back and look at November 12, 2012 thruogh November 17, 2012 where Rosa is talking to Luann about how she feels physically attracted to Gunther but he isnât showing the same thing. Look at December 7 and 8, 2012 and December 10 through 15, 2012 for a bowling party where Gunther is showing Rosa how to bowl and where she is celebrating his own strike (or trying to help him celebrate.)- And Rosa then takes everyone (except Luann, who celebrates by skyping with Quill)to a New Yearâs Eve bowling party December 31 2012 and Jan 1, 2013, where Rosa is kissing Gunther.-None of that is about good grades. Sheâs attracted to him. A zillion poets have written about attraction; this isnât something that can be explained in a little post on a comics boardâŠ.
Helmet-cam?.Not that bad an idea..I keep hoping for 360° cameras for police cruisers set up so they canât be tampered with.That way there can be no doubt regarding what happened. Nobody would be able to accuse the police of brutality, manufacturing crimes or perjury unless they really WERE guilty. ( and few would be guilty knowing they were being watched)Plus crimes they didnât notice but were reported could be verified or discounted.
He did defend her against Leslie Knox many moons ago. Guntherâs also smart, an excellent seamster, and an overall good person. Other than that, maybe the other guys at Pitts are just really horrible?
DavidHuieGreen is right. Having a boyfriend who can tailor your jeans or make a unique prom dress would be awesome. Gunther doing that for Rosa might be the reason that she is hanging onto him until she is deployed to a third world country.
Trolls only eat if they say idiotic things to elicit a response from those who are outraged by the statement, so naturally they accuse Gunther of evil..On the other hand, Gunther has blazed trail for the martial art of Backpack Bully Beating.
Possibly the uncle and bro-in-law never dated or married because laws forbade them marrying the object of their desire â whatever or whoever that might be..It beats marrying just to conform with social pressure despite having no desire for grown human women.
- the reason he behaves the way he does is because it is not Luann.With Luann he is bolder. For verification, look at 06-16-96.-Unfortunately, for some reason, the calendar blanked out that date. but I did get to see a double date between Brad and a previous girl friend Diane, and Luann and Gunther from August 13, 1996 through August 17th. -Hilarious. Diane and Luann talk to each other while Brad tells Gunther that the two of them are acting as if they (the boys) arenât even there. He tells Gunther that heâs going to kiss Diane in a way that would curl her grandmotherâs toes; Gunther says heâll do the same with Luann.-But when they all get into the car, the guys put the girls in the back seat together. (Why do that if youâre looking for some passion?)-So the girls continue talking to each other. Brad loudly objects. When the girls are quiet, waiting for something from the guys, the only thing that happens is Brad asks if anyone knew the score the game that day-Finally, when they get to Luann and Bradâs home, Lu tells Gunther she had a great time and he is stammering. At the same time, Diane is talking to Brad, and HE is stammering.-Once they are finally in the house, thereâs a knock on the door (this is August 17, 1996). When Luann answers, itâs Gunther and he kisses her.-Not so very different from the way heâs acting with Rosa right nowâŠ.
- It baffles me why he is still with him -Well, thereâs no accounting for love. Even if unreturned, you can still feel it for someone and keep hopingâŠ. I donât think that makes Rosa pathetic. But, just as I hope Luann meets someone at Community College who is able to have both a career and a personal life, I hope Rosa meets someone in the Peace Corps who isnât afraid to show love for a womanâŠ.
> This is why some people including myself have complained about this relationship, it feels incredibly forced, as if the only reason it exists is to try and help Gunther develop a tiny bit and/or not be so much of a loser when Evans forcefully hooks up Gunther and Luann in the future (itâll happen).>Quite likely youâre right. Since Greg Evans obviously identifies strongly with Gunther, one of the premises of the strip seems to be that the Gunthers of the world are the guys that the girls ought to fall in love with, because theyâre such wonderful people in every respect, once you overlook their loser-dom._> I believe Evans has already been disappointed with how many people liked Aaron Hill over Gunther>And since the girls ought to go for Gunther, heâs distraught that a significant portion of the readership, like the female characters in the strip, fail to recognize Guntherâs âinner beautyâ. The guys that the girls actually do fall for, and that the audience prefers, have to be written out of the strip. Quill already met that fate once, and probably he will do so again. Once Rosa makes a man of Gunther, she will be off to Ecuador, and the inevitably pairing of Luann and Gunther can finally happen.
-Thatâs one of the dates I listed showing the difference in the way Gunth behaves between Luann and Rosa-But everything that happened before that date showed him as tongue-tied and unable to speak (let alone do anything else). He is at least able to carry on a conversation with Rosa, which he couldnât do with Luann in Bradâs car. When heâs bowling with Rosa, heâs even showing her how to do that.-I think his improved ability to at least talk to Rosa is a big step forward
-Even back in 96 , 06-03-96 to be exact, Luann describes Gunther as an awesome kisser-Taken out of context, it might have been meaningful. But the full context includes several days before. On May 31, Luann is explaining to Gunther that she was grateful to him for helping her study and that was why she kissed him. He, of course, is not hearing what she is actually saying.-On June 2, Luann is talking to Delta and telling her that during her talk with Gunther, she told him she appreciated him as a friend, and he gave her a âletâs be palsâ kiss. In the next panel, Gunther is, of course, saying something very different to KnuteâŠ-
I think Dave53 is right. Luann sees Gunther as a good friend. He doesnât attract her the way he attracts RosaâŠ.
I know that Greg doesnât have to depend on this, but maybe there is a precedent in TV shows where ânerd chases girlâ, âgirl repeatedly says ânot on your lifeâ to boyâ, then come crazy relationships for either one or both, then somewhere down the line, âgirl all of a sudden has a realization that he was the one, all alongâ (has also been used in reverse)âŠ.
âLeslie forgot about Gunther 2 seconds after he left them ..heâs got other things on his little mind.â Like devious thoughts as he seeks out his next victim? (I know, I know to all of you out there, Leslie was a victim himself⊠Knute was not and ad infinitum (sp.?) and then Leslie was the bully and Knute was just protecting CrystalâŠ). What a devious web we weave when once we set out to deceive⊠Youâre right on Dave 53⊠;)
â(((GASP))) Are you asking Gunther to becomeâŠâthoughtlessâ? ;-)" LOL Only when he starts to backpedal on RosaâŠor any girl (including Luann, who BTW, I donât think is really all that crazy about him anymoreâŠ). ;)
Rosa, Gunther is not going to change. He will defend you verbally to anyone who tries to harm you. He will defend you physically with his backpack or whatever he has when he is caught in the moment. Gunther lives in the moment, and at this moment you want him to be like he was a moment ago, but always and forever. Itâs not going to happen. He is who he is, and he will likely be a devoted, faithful husband to someone someday. Unfortunately that someone will obviously not be you.
âAs nice a guy Gunther is, he just doesnât make her clock tickâŠâ I agree with youâŠI too, think they arenât a romantic itemâŠit just doesnât compute with me⊠;)
Leviticus : Gunth is going to run into Les somewhere where Les knows there are no cameras in the area. If he mouths off to Les then, Gunther is going to be in a world of hurt..DavidHuieGreen Have you ever known Gunther to mouth off at ANYONE?.JPuzzleWhiz :Well, we know him nowâŠ.Yes, we do. And the question remains:Have you ever known Gunther to mouth off at ANYONE?If he has done it, Leviticus will know because he has read the entire tale several times. (Heâs my hero!).Some might use different definitions but the ones I noticed for âmouth offâ include:..to express your opinions too loudly and publicly: ..to speak out of turn; to backtalk...to give your opinions about something in a very annoying way, especially when you are complaining or criticizing something.So the question could be pinned down to one of whether or not Gunther was annoyingly too loud in his unreasonable complaints and criticisms or out of line in speaking. Oh, sure, it annoyed Leslie Knox when Gunther demanded he pick up the books he had knocked out of the girlâs hands, but it seemed like a reasonable response unless someone believes the Gunthers of the world should stifle themselves and let the bullies walk all over others..Further, other than this demand for justice, I just canât remember Gunther being loud, unreasonable, disrespectful of others
âIf youâre going to respond like youâre so much better than someone, then Iâll start doing it too. Responding like this is a bully thing to do, but if youâre going to be a bully then Iâll have to stand up for myself.â-Good for you.STAND UP FOR YOURSELF.I donât see myself as a bully for disagreeing with one who is calling a person a coward for speaking back to a known beater, but then Iâm prejudiced: I like me. And, yes, there are people I consider myself better than. People like those who always favor the bullies of the world and mock those who fear them even when they stand before them, defenseless, fully expecting to be beaten but hoping to fight the injustice with their own blood..Interestingly, I donât consider myself to be using bully-type tactics, but it is funny when one who does think so does use those tactics. That means that one considers him/her/itself a bully..If Iâm not better than those people, then I am a low-life indeed and deserve to be stood up to.
JPuzzleWhiz, trust me I know and agree our beloved milania meets all the criteria as do a few others. Have a little pity for those with such personalities, we can get away from them but they are stuck with themselves. Some may actually mean well.
If you ask me, the word âtrollâ has jumped the shark. And a couple of piranha, as well⊠it is rather subjective, and even the Wikipedia definition which is based on sources contributed is a bit off⊠any time anyone introduces a thought or style that others are not âaccustomed toâ , it is automatically branded âtrollishââŠ. â That is not to say that such ones who are purposely trying to be negative or contradictory isnât acting in a âtrollishâ manner⊠itâs just that there seems to be a need to âfine tuneâ the term, to have a term that wonât be a âbuzz wordâ as many are quick to blurt the word out, at the slightest⊠something that means such, but not just someone who we may disagree withâŠ.
We all have compulsions of some kind (or many). Some have a need to criticize. I have a compulsion to talk about my own life (even if it bores others). De gustibusâŠ.
ReallyBad,You say many things, some of which seem contradictory.You say you want people to âjust stay away from himâ while saying he wonât change unless people befriend him or some such. It is hard to do both. It is especially hard to stay from people who intentionally run into you and knock your books out of your hand..You donât want people involving teachers or other people to stop the bully from terrorizing them, but you want them to form some sort of gang to stand up to him..You continue to think the bully has a personal vendetta against the people he had a toilet mishap with because you are certain he is suspended for three days as he asked. We havenât even been told yet that he has been suspended, nor do we know he will waste his time on a vendetta..You say the bully wonât back down from a confrontation while acknowledging the threat of equal and opposite reaction made him back down..I did not say âteachers wonât help you.â I said some principals are too tied up with other duties to do what SHOULD be their prime duty, furthering the education of those wanting to be educated..You keep insisting there is no solution to bullies or that there are solutions but that they wonât work unless done a certain way. There is a solution which does not depend on size or others and I am glad nobody is considering it..You called Gunther a coward but now acknowledge he was brave even if stupid..Oh well, the new strip is probably up by now so let me post this and go read it.
JayBluE about 11 years ago
G-man, you just won the Blooper Bowl!âŠWhere are you going, now?âŠâTo sleep!â⊠â Guntherâs so tough, Chuck Norris watches his movies!⊠â Does Gunther know that Rosa knows that he doesnât know if he knows that his "no"s are as good as coming out of his nose? Does she know that he knows whatâŠ. You know⊠he doesn- waitâŠ. Let me start overâŠ.
honeysum about 11 years ago
Wait till he gets outdoors where the cameras ainât
DaJellyBelly about 11 years ago
Well, at least Gunther is being honest.
Marv Walker about 11 years ago
The power of Crystal â UNLEASHED!!!
JayBluE about 11 years ago
LesseeâŠ.ââȘâŠI Know But I Donât KnowâŠâȘâ (Blondie)âPoint Of Know Returnâ (Kansas)âDr. KnowââThatâs A No-Know!ââNo Knows Is Good KnowsââKnow-poleon DynamiteâhmmmâŠ.. I donât know âŠ.
Mordock999 Premium Member about 11 years ago
Well âKNOWâ You THIS: When Needle-Nose Finds Out Heâs Been DUPED, Heâs Gonna POUND Guntherâs Head Until it RINGS Like a Gong!
JayBluE about 11 years ago
âChain ReactionââUnintended ConsequencesââWhat They Donât Know Didnât Hurt ThemââGunther Fife For SheriffââG-man, Texas RangerââItâs Not What You Know But Who You Noâor âA Pebble In The Hand Is Worth Two Grasshoppersâ
DaJellyBelly about 11 years ago
BTW, I rarely read past the 30th post. Because after that, it is usually the usual suspects bickering with each other!!!
Angelalex242 about 11 years ago
Rosa:Gosh darnit, I signed on to this relationship for a hero! You just kicked a bullyâs ass, enjoy it already!
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr about 11 years ago
Gunther will have to think about it, Rosa.
seyleigh about 11 years ago
Is anyone else kind of hoping that Gunther will suddenly gain confidence and do a perfect rendition of âYou and Iâ by Santana and Chad Kroeger?
Or maybe borrow some Taylor Swift lyrics? Come on Gunther, tell her âyou are the best thing that has ever been mineâ before she says âI knew you were trouble when you walked in, so shame on me.â
I just want Gunther to do something besides protect Rosa from bullies! He doesnât have a confident bone in his body unless someone is trying to physically harm his girlfriend. Greg Evans, your fictional character better use this incident to grow bigger juevos! Or Iâll⊠not do anything but be slightly annoyed for five seconds.
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
I certainly did not see todayâs strip coming! Now, Gunther, donât get too carried away with yourself! Once Leslie finds out there arenât any real cameras heâs going to be seriously ponked off⊠But, the way the action has shifted to Gunther and Rosa means to me that Leslieâs actions have shifted out of the stripâŠat least for today. And Gunther, you Can fluff yourself up without getting all tongue-tied and putting yourself down! ;)
JayBluE about 11 years ago
Guntherâs confidence (and his wardrobe) supplied by:=GuntheradeâŠ.. âThe careful athleteâs energy drink!â⊠âEnergy boost, one sip at a time!âŠâ â Mr. Tâs frozen dinners⊠âAll meat, no fillers.â âŠ"I pity the Tofu!ââŠ.. â CheatiesâąâŠ. Official breakfast of the Know-lympics!â⊠â and byâŠPlotzâ convenience storesâŠ
JayBluE about 11 years ago
âIâll let everyone know when I figure out who Gomer reminds me of thereâ^Now youâre just Pyle-ing it onâŠ.
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
âOnce Gunther finds out why Les is backing offâŠâ I can see him making a costume that will fool everyone into thinking this Gunther is not really our Gunther at all⊠Hey, Gunth! I have a motorcycle helmet if you want! Put down the visor and voila! No more GuntherâŠor so he thinks⊠;)
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
LOL! You guys make me smile! ;)
JayBluE about 11 years ago
Ha ha!!!âŠ.
JayBluE about 11 years ago
Reminds me of a âDennis the Menaceâ where they all were flying (IIRC, it was all a dream in Mr. Wilsonâs head)⊠once Mr. Wilson finally got into it and everybody was enjoying their newfound âwingsâ, Mr. Wilson said: âWeâre flying! I donât believe it!!!!â Thatâs when he stoppedâŠ..and woke upâŠ.
seyleigh about 11 years ago
Sadly, you are right.
CG 23 Sailor about 11 years ago
For those who were knocking Guntherâs âfalseâ heroism the day beforeâŠ.
He did not know about Crystals story to Leslie about cameras. So when he told Leslie of to âPick those upâ he was reacting to defend Rosa in all honesty, not because he knew it was a sham.
Did it without thinking.Now that he has time to reflect is when the case of nerves sets in.
But his original reaction was NOT a false one.
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
âUnless this moment translates into Gunther getting the confidence⊠Three panels into having a conversation with Rosa, you can see him losing his confidence.â And I so wanted Gunther to continue to hold himself up! But IJB is rightâŠonce Gunther starts to Think, all is lostâŠat least for todayâs strip, anyway⊠;)
JayBluE about 11 years ago
"⊠It showed Dennis holding a skull up for his rather aghast looking mom to see. The caption was, âMom! Look what I found in Mr. Wilsonâs head!â^Yeah, thatâs classic âMalice Mitchellâ for ya⊠. can go to war against the vermin that lives in the pillowcasesâŠ. but yet always afraid of the âhead-bugsââŠ.
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
âAs a character, Guntherâs comedic potential is rooted in his being an eccentric, timid nerd.â Youâre rightâŠbut sometimes he isnât funny when, for example, he puts himself down too muchâŠit is almost painful to watchâŠbut then, I used to be a sort of eccentric nerd myself in my teen years, so I guess Guntherâs loss of confidence in himself comes awfully close to home⊠;)
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
And, on that note Iâd better close up shop for the night! Snoozeeeeeeeeeeeee⊠;)
wiselad about 11 years ago
he better be spontaneously be kissing her Saturday
kenhense about 11 years ago
Enough of Gunther not responding to sexy Rosa. This is getting to be torture.
ReadingComicsAtWork about 11 years ago
Heâs already stood up to Leslie Knox in the pastâŠ.for her.
watmiwori about 11 years ago
Give him a passionate smooch, Rosa, and damn the cameras[if any]!
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
âIâm too confused to feel confident.â
seismic-2 Premium Member about 11 years ago
> New confident Gunther? Hardly! Heâs already proven he can defend Rosa against Leslie Knox.>What heâs âprovenâ is that he can be the one to initiate physical violence (using a backpack as a bludgeon), provided he repeatedly denies that this is what heâs doing, and itâs only an accident. Then when it comes time actually to stand up to Leslie, he defers to Ox. What a man!
genorino about 11 years ago
Since yesterday, the schoolâs walls have changed color four times. Whatâs with that?
StoicLion1973 about 11 years ago
From the Principalâs reaction to Leslieâs confession, I take that there are no cameras. Leslie may try to take it out on Gunther (which could lead to more issues) but he should be more upset with Crystal.
andytoon Premium Member about 11 years ago
Kiss her Gunther. Come on. Donât blow it. We are rooting for you!
genorino about 11 years ago
Rosaâs leanin in for a big ole âlatina lip lockâ
cdemattos about 11 years ago
just grow a set already Gunther!
Waddling Eagle about 11 years ago
A single pebble thrown into a still poolâŠ.
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr about 11 years ago
âOh, so now Gunther is re-cast as a bully???!!!â-ââââââââââWhere do you see Gunther recast as a Bully?Cut and paste the quote, itâs not that hard.
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr about 11 years ago
âGunth is going to run into Les somewhere where Les knows there are no camerasâŠâ-ââGunther is smart enough to pull one of these on Les:
milania about 11 years ago
Wimpy wimpy wimpy
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr about 11 years ago
What part of that do you interpret as making Gunther âthe bullyâ?Be specific.
Willow Mt Lyon about 11 years ago
Gunther is not a hero, he is not overly confident, but he speaks up when someone is being a jerk. It is a personality trait some people have, and it shocks others when it appears because it isnât what they expect from that person. The behavior is like a parent protecting his/her children or a bull protecting his heifers.
Argy.Bargy2 about 11 years ago
-Leslie was only intimidated because he thinks there are security cameras around. Once he finds out there arenât, itâll be back to business as usual-Sadly, you are rightâŠ
Argy.Bargy2 about 11 years ago
-Personally Iâm not really sure what Rosa wants-You are not sure what Rosa wants because, just like the character Gunther, you are not paying attention to what Rosa is saying.-She has repeatedly mourned the fact that she has to be the one to invite him on dates. Did you ever hear of the movie âHeâs Not Into Youâ, where guys would tell girls âIâll call youâ when they really meant "Ok, we went out on a date and youâre not really what I want, but I donât want to just come right out and say so.â-So the girl waits for the phone call that never comes, or keeps inviting the guy to go out and he might accept or might not. BUT he never invites her anywhere.-What Rosa wants isnât for Gunther to give up college just because she might go to the Peace Corps first. She wants him to show that heâs interested by inviting her on a date or to a dance, or starting a kiss. Otherwise, she figures heâs not really interested.
Argy.Bargy2 about 11 years ago
-WHY does she like Gunther?-Why does any girl like a guy or vice versa? Thereâs an attraction that happens, or else it doesnât.-Go back and look at November 12, 2012 thruogh November 17, 2012 where Rosa is talking to Luann about how she feels physically attracted to Gunther but he isnât showing the same thing. Look at December 7 and 8, 2012 and December 10 through 15, 2012 for a bowling party where Gunther is showing Rosa how to bowl and where she is celebrating his own strike (or trying to help him celebrate.)- And Rosa then takes everyone (except Luann, who celebrates by skyping with Quill)to a New Yearâs Eve bowling party December 31 2012 and Jan 1, 2013, where Rosa is kissing Gunther.-None of that is about good grades. Sheâs attracted to him. A zillion poets have written about attraction; this isnât something that can be explained in a little post on a comics boardâŠ.
slypuma about 11 years ago
Leave the poor guy alone.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
Helmet-cam?.Not that bad an idea..I keep hoping for 360° cameras for police cruisers set up so they canât be tampered with.That way there can be no doubt regarding what happened. Nobody would be able to accuse the police of brutality, manufacturing crimes or perjury unless they really WERE guilty. ( and few would be guilty knowing they were being watched)Plus crimes they didnât notice but were reported could be verified or discounted.
seyleigh about 11 years ago
He did defend her against Leslie Knox many moons ago. Guntherâs also smart, an excellent seamster, and an overall good person. Other than that, maybe the other guys at Pitts are just really horrible?
DavidHuieGreen is right. Having a boyfriend who can tailor your jeans or make a unique prom dress would be awesome. Gunther doing that for Rosa might be the reason that she is hanging onto him until she is deployed to a third world country.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
Trolls only eat if they say idiotic things to elicit a response from those who are outraged by the statement, so naturally they accuse Gunther of evil..On the other hand, Gunther has blazed trail for the martial art of Backpack Bully Beating.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
Possibly the uncle and bro-in-law never dated or married because laws forbade them marrying the object of their desire â whatever or whoever that might be..It beats marrying just to conform with social pressure despite having no desire for grown human women.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
Have you ever known Gunther to mouth off at ANYONE?
Mordock999 Premium Member about 11 years ago
âWrongo! It wonât be G-Man he goes after. It will be Crystal.â_____________________________________
No DOUBT. After which Heâll Next take His ANGER out on EVERYBODY too Weak to Fight Back.STARTING Unfortunately, with the G-ManâŠ.,
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
Facing a bully is cowardice????FASCINATING
Argy.Bargy2 about 11 years ago
- the reason he behaves the way he does is because it is not Luann.With Luann he is bolder. For verification, look at 06-16-96.-Unfortunately, for some reason, the calendar blanked out that date. but I did get to see a double date between Brad and a previous girl friend Diane, and Luann and Gunther from August 13, 1996 through August 17th. -Hilarious. Diane and Luann talk to each other while Brad tells Gunther that the two of them are acting as if they (the boys) arenât even there. He tells Gunther that heâs going to kiss Diane in a way that would curl her grandmotherâs toes; Gunther says heâll do the same with Luann.-But when they all get into the car, the guys put the girls in the back seat together. (Why do that if youâre looking for some passion?)-So the girls continue talking to each other. Brad loudly objects. When the girls are quiet, waiting for something from the guys, the only thing that happens is Brad asks if anyone knew the score the game that day-Finally, when they get to Luann and Bradâs home, Lu tells Gunther she had a great time and he is stammering. At the same time, Diane is talking to Brad, and HE is stammering.-Once they are finally in the house, thereâs a knock on the door (this is August 17, 1996). When Luann answers, itâs Gunther and he kisses her.-Not so very different from the way heâs acting with Rosa right nowâŠ.
notbornyesterday about 11 years ago
Poor Gunther; this story line reminds me of the tale of the tailor who âslew seven with one blowâ. Boy did that come back to haunt him.
Argy.Bargy2 about 11 years ago
- It baffles me why he is still with him -Well, thereâs no accounting for love. Even if unreturned, you can still feel it for someone and keep hopingâŠ. I donât think that makes Rosa pathetic. But, just as I hope Luann meets someone at Community College who is able to have both a career and a personal life, I hope Rosa meets someone in the Peace Corps who isnât afraid to show love for a womanâŠ.
seismic-2 Premium Member about 11 years ago
> This is why some people including myself have complained about this relationship, it feels incredibly forced, as if the only reason it exists is to try and help Gunther develop a tiny bit and/or not be so much of a loser when Evans forcefully hooks up Gunther and Luann in the future (itâll happen).>Quite likely youâre right. Since Greg Evans obviously identifies strongly with Gunther, one of the premises of the strip seems to be that the Gunthers of the world are the guys that the girls ought to fall in love with, because theyâre such wonderful people in every respect, once you overlook their loser-dom._> I believe Evans has already been disappointed with how many people liked Aaron Hill over Gunther>And since the girls ought to go for Gunther, heâs distraught that a significant portion of the readership, like the female characters in the strip, fail to recognize Guntherâs âinner beautyâ. The guys that the girls actually do fall for, and that the audience prefers, have to be written out of the strip. Quill already met that fate once, and probably he will do so again. Once Rosa makes a man of Gunther, she will be off to Ecuador, and the inevitably pairing of Luann and Gunther can finally happen.
Doctor11 about 11 years ago
Iâm gonna say yes.
Argy.Bargy2 about 11 years ago
-Thatâs one of the dates I listed showing the difference in the way Gunth behaves between Luann and Rosa-But everything that happened before that date showed him as tongue-tied and unable to speak (let alone do anything else). He is at least able to carry on a conversation with Rosa, which he couldnât do with Luann in Bradâs car. When heâs bowling with Rosa, heâs even showing her how to do that.-I think his improved ability to at least talk to Rosa is a big step forward
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
Facing what you fear is NOT cowardice.
Argy.Bargy2 about 11 years ago
-Even back in 96 , 06-03-96 to be exact, Luann describes Gunther as an awesome kisser-Taken out of context, it might have been meaningful. But the full context includes several days before. On May 31, Luann is explaining to Gunther that she was grateful to him for helping her study and that was why she kissed him. He, of course, is not hearing what she is actually saying.-On June 2, Luann is talking to Delta and telling her that during her talk with Gunther, she told him she appreciated him as a friend, and he gave her a âletâs be palsâ kiss. In the next panel, Gunther is, of course, saying something very different to KnuteâŠ-
I think Dave53 is right. Luann sees Gunther as a good friend. He doesnât attract her the way he attracts RosaâŠ.
JayBluE about 11 years ago
I know that Greg doesnât have to depend on this, but maybe there is a precedent in TV shows where ânerd chases girlâ, âgirl repeatedly says ânot on your lifeâ to boyâ, then come crazy relationships for either one or both, then somewhere down the line, âgirl all of a sudden has a realization that he was the one, all alongâ (has also been used in reverse)âŠ.
Dex_N_FX about 11 years ago
He stood up for her without knowing that Leslie thought there were cameras. That is a big step in my opinion.
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
âLeslie forgot about Gunther 2 seconds after he left them ..heâs got other things on his little mind.â Like devious thoughts as he seeks out his next victim? (I know, I know to all of you out there, Leslie was a victim himself⊠Knute was not and ad infinitum (sp.?) and then Leslie was the bully and Knute was just protecting CrystalâŠ). What a devious web we weave when once we set out to deceive⊠Youâre right on Dave 53⊠;)
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
But Why would Luann resort to violence on behalf of Gunther? ;)
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
â(((GASP))) Are you asking Gunther to becomeâŠâthoughtlessâ? ;-)" LOL Only when he starts to backpedal on RosaâŠor any girl (including Luann, who BTW, I donât think is really all that crazy about him anymoreâŠ). ;)
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
âI can just see Rosa singing this version of a famous oldie: âGunther, get angry, Gunther, get madâŠâ ROTFLM*O! ;)
Willow Mt Lyon about 11 years ago
Rosa, Gunther is not going to change. He will defend you verbally to anyone who tries to harm you. He will defend you physically with his backpack or whatever he has when he is caught in the moment. Gunther lives in the moment, and at this moment you want him to be like he was a moment ago, but always and forever. Itâs not going to happen. He is who he is, and he will likely be a devoted, faithful husband to someone someday. Unfortunately that someone will obviously not be you.
ORMouseworks about 11 years ago
âAs nice a guy Gunther is, he just doesnât make her clock tickâŠâ I agree with youâŠI too, think they arenât a romantic itemâŠit just doesnât compute with me⊠;)
nanellen about 11 years ago
My husband of nearly 52 years is like that. People thought we would not last. Nice guys do win!
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
Leviticus : Gunth is going to run into Les somewhere where Les knows there are no cameras in the area. If he mouths off to Les then, Gunther is going to be in a world of hurt..DavidHuieGreen Have you ever known Gunther to mouth off at ANYONE?.JPuzzleWhiz :Well, we know him nowâŠ.Yes, we do. And the question remains:Have you ever known Gunther to mouth off at ANYONE?If he has done it, Leviticus will know because he has read the entire tale several times. (Heâs my hero!).Some might use different definitions but the ones I noticed for âmouth offâ include:..to express your opinions too loudly and publicly: ..to speak out of turn; to backtalk...to give your opinions about something in a very annoying way, especially when you are complaining or criticizing something.So the question could be pinned down to one of whether or not Gunther was annoyingly too loud in his unreasonable complaints and criticisms or out of line in speaking. Oh, sure, it annoyed Leslie Knox when Gunther demanded he pick up the books he had knocked out of the girlâs hands, but it seemed like a reasonable response unless someone believes the Gunthers of the world should stifle themselves and let the bullies walk all over others..Further, other than this demand for justice, I just canât remember Gunther being loud, unreasonable, disrespectful of others
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
âIf youâre going to respond like youâre so much better than someone, then Iâll start doing it too. Responding like this is a bully thing to do, but if youâre going to be a bully then Iâll have to stand up for myself.â-Good for you.STAND UP FOR YOURSELF.I donât see myself as a bully for disagreeing with one who is calling a person a coward for speaking back to a known beater, but then Iâm prejudiced: I like me. And, yes, there are people I consider myself better than. People like those who always favor the bullies of the world and mock those who fear them even when they stand before them, defenseless, fully expecting to be beaten but hoping to fight the injustice with their own blood..Interestingly, I donât consider myself to be using bully-type tactics, but it is funny when one who does think so does use those tactics. That means that one considers him/her/itself a bully..If Iâm not better than those people, then I am a low-life indeed and deserve to be stood up to.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
Nancy,I think your husband won with you because you appreciate him. Good for you both.
Angelalex242 about 11 years ago
Rosa is actually singing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f_HsjpSVaI
Bonnie Tyler:Holding out for a heroâŠ
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
JPuzzleWhiz, trust me I know and agree our beloved milania meets all the criteria as do a few others. Have a little pity for those with such personalities, we can get away from them but they are stuck with themselves. Some may actually mean well.
JayBluE about 11 years ago
If you ask me, the word âtrollâ has jumped the shark. And a couple of piranha, as well⊠it is rather subjective, and even the Wikipedia definition which is based on sources contributed is a bit off⊠any time anyone introduces a thought or style that others are not âaccustomed toâ , it is automatically branded âtrollishââŠ. â That is not to say that such ones who are purposely trying to be negative or contradictory isnât acting in a âtrollishâ manner⊠itâs just that there seems to be a need to âfine tuneâ the term, to have a term that wonât be a âbuzz wordâ as many are quick to blurt the word out, at the slightest⊠something that means such, but not just someone who we may disagree withâŠ.
vldazzle about 11 years ago
We all have compulsions of some kind (or many). Some have a need to criticize. I have a compulsion to talk about my own life (even if it bores others). De gustibusâŠ.
David Huie Green LikeNobody'sEverSeen about 11 years ago
ReallyBad,You say many things, some of which seem contradictory.You say you want people to âjust stay away from himâ while saying he wonât change unless people befriend him or some such. It is hard to do both. It is especially hard to stay from people who intentionally run into you and knock your books out of your hand..You donât want people involving teachers or other people to stop the bully from terrorizing them, but you want them to form some sort of gang to stand up to him..You continue to think the bully has a personal vendetta against the people he had a toilet mishap with because you are certain he is suspended for three days as he asked. We havenât even been told yet that he has been suspended, nor do we know he will waste his time on a vendetta..You say the bully wonât back down from a confrontation while acknowledging the threat of equal and opposite reaction made him back down..I did not say âteachers wonât help you.â I said some principals are too tied up with other duties to do what SHOULD be their prime duty, furthering the education of those wanting to be educated..You keep insisting there is no solution to bullies or that there are solutions but that they wonât work unless done a certain way. There is a solution which does not depend on size or others and I am glad nobody is considering it..You called Gunther a coward but now acknowledge he was brave even if stupid..Oh well, the new strip is probably up by now so let me post this and go read it.
Doctor Go about 11 years ago
Gunther- while youâre confidence is at an all time high, plant one on her!