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Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for January 31, 2015
Transcript:
Danae: Whoa...look at all the snow! *Heh-heh* So much for that global warming stuff, eh? Ned: First of all, the correct term is "climate change", and the increasing severity of storms worldwide is all indicative of... Danae: NO PREACHY SCIENCE JUNK ON A SATURDAY, OK?!! GAH! Ned: How long is this anti-knowledge trend going to last? Kate: As long as there's an internet.
Can't Sleep about 10 years ago
I donāt know what happened to Danaeās mom, but I bet she had a premonition about that kid, packed her bags, andā¦
BillWa about 10 years ago
Iām with Denae here. The entire premise of man made climatechange is a scam. This does not say there is not climate change, four times a year, just like clockwork, but blaming man, specifically western ccivilization is nothing but social engineering.
jnik23260 about 10 years ago
Or as long as there is a church!
jbenzver5 about 10 years ago
Danae is going to grow up to be Sarah Palinā¦to the extent that that constitutes growing up anyway.
Dtroutma about 10 years ago
āAnthropogenic Climate Changeā, regionally recognized initially was the original term in the mid 1950ā s by Dasmann and others. Global warming came after laws, and use, and models, changed things on a broader scale.
Danae would resent the science āpreachyā, but weāve seen Dadae in denial for some time, on many things.
cupertino jay about 10 years ago
iām solid with you beau-no-boo. but the other side canāt yield an inch, being divinely inspired, ie ā black as night coal funded.
united we stand but divided ā into countries ā not so much. color our species doomed. no, seriously, humanity is farkān doooomed..
crucial allegory from centuries ago (look it up): āthe tragedy of the commons.ā
Proginoskes about 10 years ago
Wiley must have discovered Republicans yesterday!
Proginoskes about 10 years ago
Well, since I ate yesterday, I guess thereās no such thing as world hunger any more ā¦
Argythree about 10 years ago
Iām not a scientist, so I canāt speak from a fact-based position about how much human activity can or canāt shift climate. But I grew up in the City of Pittsburgh when everything was coal-based. We burned it in our furnaces and particulate matter went up our chimneys and out into the air we inhaled,joining the clouds of pollution emitted by the smokestacks of the steel industry that was once the major employer. -Since Pittsburgh is surrounded by hills (some call them mountains, but they arenāt as tall as the ones further west), each time we had an inversion, there would be days when smog never let up.-Buildings were coated in soot. We hung our clothes outside to dry then (all we had was a wringer washer, no dryer), and before we brought the clothes and sheets back inside, we had to brush off all the coal dust.-There were many people whose lungs have been affected by those years. I have a cousin a few years older than I who never smoked and never lived in a home with smokers, and he is one of many Pittsburghers afflicted with what is called Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease.-Whether burning fuel and contaminating the air with particulate matter causes climate change or not, it definitely contributes to human health problems. That in itself is reason enough to rethink what weāre doing.-One more point. You donāt get to hear about this often, since China has such rigid control over what news gets out. BBC will sometimes report on issues that the US news industry overlooks. There have been many brave Chinese parents who frequently risk arrest to protest the impact of industrial pollution on the health of their infants. Since they have been restricted to a āone-childā policy, watching that one child suffer increasing ill health is devastating to those families.-We need to consider the health impacts of what we put into our air.
jorgen Premium Member about 10 years ago
This said: since we are between two ice ages, there is right now or will eventually be climate change ā depending on whether we are recovering from the last ice age or nearing the next. We seem to be right in the middle, but of course nobody knows for sure.
Varnes about 10 years ago
I substitute teach. Yesterdayās DVD (That I got to watch 6 times..) was called How The Earth Was Made. Turns out the last ten thousand years is the longest period of time that the Earth has been this stableā¦And yes, we are between ice agesā¦What Iād like to know, is why are conservatives, like climate deniers, so quick to go to conspiracy mode? What a sad and lonely, paranoid world they must live in..Very scaryā¦.
Brass Orchid Premium Member about 10 years ago
The climate has been changing for thousands of years. There has been a gradual but steady decrease of fresh water resources due to a cooling of the seas. This results in glacial recession, desert encroachment and localized warming from a reduction in the heat sink and evaporative cooling effects of fresh water resources inland._CO2 levels alter the greenhouse properties of the atmosphere. The greenhouse effect enables increased retention of infrared energy by all portions of the globe, land and sea alike._The land will continue to dry and warm until the seas become so warm from the heat they receive from the land that they yield increased vapor levels sufficient to force water vapor into the farthest and driest inland areas._It is possible to increase vapor levels for a short time by decreasing the ambient inland temperatures to create a greater energy potential difference, as seen in the Little Ice Age, but this only further diminishes the thermal potential of the seas and does not enact a full redistribution of water resources necessary to reclaim the arid lands and rebuild the glaciers._Increased CO2 levels will improve the warming of the seas with less damage to the land in the process of that warming, which is inevitable and necessary to maintaining fresh water resources._The core motivation of the MMCC purveyors is their hatred for industry, commerce and humanity in general. The actions they envision will embody their core motivation, which is their hatred, and will only harm those things they hate and provide no solution to the current climate dilemma.The tao of the action is the tao of the actor.
Brass Orchid Premium Member about 10 years ago
And, just incidentally, the increased severity of storms is indicative of a decreased area of difference yielding a more dense gradient. The kinetic energy being produced is achieving a lesser state of vapor dispersion before being triggered to precipitation. This means that the atmosphere is too cold and thin to carry vapor a sufficient distance to create precipitation farther inland. If warming were a problem, we would see cyclones in Ontario and Manitoba in June and July, not in Louisiana and Mississippi, and the vapor plume from annual tropical warming would reach farther inland and not return to its source seas in massive cyclonic events as soon as the autumnal cooling begins to touch upon it.
Reppr Premium Member about 10 years ago
If the observable results donāt match the theory, just call the theory āsettled scienceā and demonize anybody who notices this inconvenient truth.
Hardthought about 10 years ago
I live in Northeastern Kansas, in a beautiful area called āThe Glacial Hillsā, an area of large, rolling hills along the West Bank of the Missouri River. These hills were deposited by the glacier that carved the Missouri River valley..
Whereās my glacier? It melted 10,000 years ago. Why? Because climates change.
starcandles Premium Member about 10 years ago
Climate change is the nature of climate. it always changes. Anybody who thinks that puny man can affect climate is nuts. Earth used to be much warmer. when I graduated high school in 1974, the cover of Time Magazine was showing the impending āice-ageā that man had allegedly caused. What a crock! This global cooling, global warming, climate change stuff ( notice how the left changes the terminology as their theories are changed to suit their desired outcomes) is nothing but a money-grab ( can we say Al Gore in his mansion that has a huuuuuuge carbon footprint, while he scams millions in grants & loans from taxpayers & companies! ). People recognize it for what it is, which is why government has a difficult time shoving their man-made global warming we need to take your money for the good of the planet scam down our throats.
Carl Premium Member about 10 years ago
I survived the āmini-ice ageā of the 70ās, the global warming of the aughts, can I survive the climate change of the teens?
ladykat Premium Member about 10 years ago
OK, all the above pundits ā all I know for sure is that itās bloody cold here in Barrie today
ladamson1918 about 10 years ago
2014 ā hottest year since records have been kept
tripwire45 about 10 years ago
So weāre just turning Danae into a caricature of everything Wileyās against?
fredcalvin about 10 years ago
I now perceive Wiley Miller as another of the liberrral (brrr) progressive propagandists as he presents Danae as the anti-knowledge one and confirmed by her father and sister. This cartoon is helping to āpro-propagandizeā, the most wicked form of anti-knowledge.
dabugger about 10 years ago
Internet? Na, two bright kids who are so much different. Kate and Danae. What more could their dad want than variety. At least Lucy has it togetherā¦.
Can't Sleep about 10 years ago
Somebody call Sarah Palin ā Iāve just found her running mate!
JoeRaisin about 10 years ago
After the example we just saw of āscientistsā ability to predict the weather just 24 hours out, how can they claim to know whatās going to happen years or decades away ā they havenāt gotten it right yet. Every time they claim to have identified a trend mother nature flips it up on them.
As some funnyman pointed out: Iāve been timing sunrise and sunset for the last month ā if this trend continues, by this time next year there will be NO nighttime whatsoever!
New York, last week was a perfect example of silly over reactions to mistaken predictions. Having lived in northern climates most of my life, no one ever benefits from shutting things down before the first flake has fallen ā we know a storm might be coming and smart northerners know how to prepare, then go about their business because they know sometimes it just doesnāt happen. Once it starts, smart folks head indoors. Or start up the snowmobileā¦.
karanne about 10 years ago
When she joins the GOPā¦
puddlesplatt about 10 years ago
Golly! what can I add, anyone want B. Sā¦
pkukulski about 10 years ago
The correct term is āglobal warmingā. The only problem with this name is that most people think so infrequently that they donāt comprehend the meaning of āon average.ā
Charlie Fogwhistle about 10 years ago
The one thing that is constant is change. That pertains to weather as well a young girlās heart.
Gokie5 about 10 years ago
I read an interesting couple of book reviews in the New York Times Book Review of the two volumes of The Norton Anthology of World Religions : http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/21/books/review/the-norton-anthology-of-world-religions-volume-i.html?r=0andhttp://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/21/books/review/the-norton-anthology-of-world-religions-volume-ii.htmlIn the second volume we learn that the three religions that arose from the Middle East, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, originally regarded their sacred texts as jumping-off points subject to debate and open to change as new facts became available. The second review hints at how much more peaceable things would be if so many adherents to these faiths were not imprisoned by their beliefs in the infallibility of scriptures and by their willingness to resort to all manners of self delusion and cruelty to maintain their beliefs.
puddleglum1066 about 10 years ago
NASA created a map based on satellite data, showing 2014ās temperature deviation from historic norms for the entire planet. Nearly all of the world was shaded red, indicating temperatures 1-2 degrees C warmer. There were three significant cooler areas, quite small by comparison to the warm areas, but significant in at least one case. The three areas were: a patch of the north Atlantic, much of Antarctica, andā¦ the eastern part of North America, including the Texas oil patch, the Deep South, and Versailles-on-the-Potomac, also known as Washington. This, at least, provides some explanation for why there are so many science-deniers inside the Beltway: itās not warming up where they are; therefore it must not be warming up anywhere else, eitherā¦
JohnHarry Premium Member about 10 years ago
Oh Charlie 555 ā nice piece of specious logic.
sukiec about 10 years ago
Ah, so much people could learn, if they would bother. The biggest problem is that people have some blanket preconceptions that do not take into account air and water currents, and have forgotten that heat is energy.There is a very good reason why the GLOBAL highs havevalmost all been since year 2000, amd it does mot matter if a person calls it Global Warming or Climate Change. The reason the second term was introduced was because people people incorrectly thought that the use of the word āglobalā meant everywhere when it actually means as an average for the planet. Take a look at those sets of figures. Why is not every place warmer, or every place always warmer? Changes in large air and water currents do that. Changing the temps shifts them. In the models some places get cooler, more get warmer, some get wetter, others drier due to shifts.Now, remember from Junior High/Middle School that heat is energy. Even if you are not in any of the places currently being most altered by warming like the extreme north and south you still are being affected by this factor. What happens when you warm the atmosphere and the ocean? You wind up with more evaporation and more energy. Those fuel storms. They fuel more, more frequent, and worse storms in the areas being delivered those storms by the current wind and ocean currents. How much energy are we talking about? You know how much more even shifting your thermostat one degree costs you, right? Imagine then how much energy it takes to shift the average for a planet up.Much of what it takes to understand this shift you will have learned in Junior High or in Middle School if your school was even fair to middlinā, but for some of the secondary factors you need your High School chemistry. The loss of permafrost in tundra regions is enhancing the escape of some even worse greenhouse gases created by slow rot taking place under there. That will also help you better understand effects of gas loss involved in fracking and transportation of natural gas. I will stop now, because since the people who understand this the least tend to not have learned their science foundation lessons from Junior High, i kind of doubt they took any science in High School.
tired-one about 10 years ago
Skipping most of the comments to say:Global warming has gone south for the winter. ;pGlobal warming is climate not weather.Climate is what you expect, weather is what you get.As for humans canāt effect the climate. Ha. One man with a match can turn a rainforest into a desert.
RVMS about 10 years ago
This is shocking mis-educationā¦99% of climate scientists support the science behind climate changeā¦to deny it is being a flat earther and an ignoramus!
whiteaj about 10 years ago
Anti-knowledge? In this case itās anti-fiction.
sukiec about 10 years ago
Personally, i think terrible education levels in science and math are doing a lot of harm
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/theres-big-rift-between-americans-and-scientists-180954098/
Mokurai about 10 years ago
The deniers cannot allow themselves to imagine that warming oceans in the tropics means more evaporation all year round, and it has to come down somewhere, whether as rain or snow or hail or sleet. So, yes, more snow in winter means Global Warming is real. See also the XKCD strip Cold at http://xkcd.com/1321/
Climate Change is not the correct term. Thatās what Frank Luntz told Republicans to call Global Warming.
Iām a Buddhist priest. Preaching about reality is part of what I do.
Darque Hellmutt about 10 years ago
I find it humorous that it was all Global Warming (ice caps melting! oceans rising! dust bowls and droughts!) until reality belied the pseudo-science behind it. <can you say āfalsified dataā? I knew ya could!> So now they have a new name for it . āClimate Changeā. Well, I prefer the OLD name for āClimate Changeā ā specifically, cyclical seasonal change. And, of course, all the Global Warming/Climate Change hysteria came 30 years after the learned scientists of weather prognostication were doing their best Chicken Little impression while warning of a new Ice Age that was just around the corner.
Ctbballfan about 10 years ago
How long is this anti-knowledge trend going to last? As long as there is Fox News.
JRemakel1 about 10 years ago
Global Climate Change killed the Dinosaurs. And yes MSNBC killed the Liberals/Progressives; just ask Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson. Clever as a Fox!
Brass Orchid Premium Member about 10 years ago
Heating the planet, specifically the seas, would result in a return of the glaciers and an end to deserts. In the present day, it is plentifully cold to create glaciers, lacking only the energy to move water to the places where glaciers would form. Not only is heat energy, but so is fresh water. Any water above sea level contains kinetic potential that is derived from heat energy applied to the seas. As you can see, that energy was depleted, so the glaciers receded. And now the stored energy is running out as well.I would guess that we will see a return of the Aquarian conveyor within the next 2,000 years, and probably a new ice age in 10,000 to 12,000 years.Feel free to mock now, I will take my āI Told You Soā to go. Thank you.
1148559 about 10 years ago
We were told when the alarm first changed from āa new ice ageā to āglobal warmingā that the seas would rise catastrophically by the year 2010. We were told that by 2010, many coastal cities (such as L.A.) would be washed away. This has not happened.While it is most definitely a good thing to reduce/end pollution, there is good evidence that the current warming trend in our ever changing climate is due to activity on the sun rather than to anything done by humans.I would be less skeptical of the claims of human caused climate change, if such individuals as Al Gore were living the way they tell the rest of us to live. If they are going to talk the talk, then they should walk the walk.
wherehaveallthetalentedartistsgone about 10 years ago
Read an interesting article that said the worldwide removal of trees (natural air conditioners) and increase in man-made structures (heat retainers, ala warmer in cities) has more to do than gases. Satellite studies show little actual change.
K M about 10 years ago
Itās only āclimate changeā because you got shown up on global warming; the increasing severity of storms worldwide is, like most global warming data, made up: Storms are no more severe, and no more frequent, than theyāve ever been.
CyberSpaceDrifter about 10 years ago
Today, in the northeastern US, right now, it is well under 32 F and it is dark and, for the most part a calm evening. Without all the baseload generating plants burning coal or splitting atoms and creating electric energy, the majority of us would be sitting in the dark, without TV, video games, etc. and be slowly freezing to death. So you all can have your intellectual discussions about green power, like solar and wind, and global climate change, but remember if you are doing that right now in the northeast and you are warm and have electric for light and have some light Jazz on in the background, thank Coal and the Atom ā¦
loner34 about 10 years ago
That internet thingy goes both ways.
Zero-Gabriel about 10 years ago
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Zero-Gabriel about 10 years ago
But Wait, Thereās more!!
Zero-Gabriel about 10 years ago
Sure, itās Snowing OVER WHERE YOU ARE but have you seen the Sweat Stains and taken in the Unique Aromas emitting from those pitsā¦?!
If I want to see or experience Snow, I have to pay ENTRANCE FEEā¦
reynard61 about 10 years ago
āHow long is this anti-Knowledge trend going to last?ā
As long as there are people, corporations and organizations who will pay for it (like the Petroleum industry and itās Executives and stockholders, and those nations under itās sway), are willing to get paid to legislate for it (the Teapublican Party and itās associated PACs and politicians), are willing to perpetuate it (FauxNoise and their ilk in other media), and are willing to swallow whatever theyāre told to without logical or rational thought or regard for actual facts. (You know who you areā¦)
tl;dr: Itās gonna be around for as long as the money, oil and stupidity last.
Say What Nowā½ Premium Member about 10 years ago
Me thinks Wiley is trying to point out that his argument for the vegan diet is just as scientific as global warming. I doubt there is as much consensus by dietitians for the benefits of a vegan diet as there are scientists who point out anthropomorphic climate change.
Spade Jr. about 10 years ago
About global warmer and forecasters:
Front page news 1970 about the likelihood of major worldwise freezing within 30 years.
Front page news 2015 about the 2-3 feet of snow in New York city that was 2-3 inches in many locales there.
lbatik about 10 years ago
Sounds to me as if you are speaking of the anti-vaccination ādoctors.ā
R0Randy about 10 years ago
The reason that more and more people accept global warmingāoops, man-made climate change has nothing to do with their increasing acceptance of science. Instead, itās because they are tired of being shamed by an increasing majority of people who believe in global warmingāoops, man-made climate change. Itās like one of those perpetual motion machines, that was supposed to work based on what a person thought should work. With public opinion, it really does work! :)
R0Randy about 10 years ago
No matter what happens on a particular day, calm weather or stormy,. cold or hot, it is all proof of climate change. Thatās a good gig if you can get it.
haruspexPF about 10 years ago
Great cartoon as always, but a small misunderstanding.Itās Global Warming (in the sense that the average temperature of the biosphere is increasing over decades) AND itās Climate Change (the consequences of GW for the patterns of weather we can expect around the world). They are not alternative names for the same thing; they refer to different points along a causal chain.