Abbott is trying to bring transparency (“facilitat[ing] communication and to make people comfortable and informed about what’s going on”)**, which can only be a good thing. Better people get their news from the governor’s office than from Alex Jones. If the kooks are making wild claims that have the potential to cause serious unrest (case in point: 9/11 trutherism), then the kooks shouldn’t go unchallenged – better communication between the state and DoD makes challenging them easier.
With the Bush family and the Clinton family, succession is the problem: a perceived belief on their part that they should be a ruling family. With Texas it’s a secession problem:it sees itself as independent of the rest of the US and perhaps would make many happy by leaving.
to correct a misconception. Abbot charged the State Guard not the National Guard to observe. The State Guard are a bunch of old men playing army with outdated equipment. They provide labor during natural disasters and ceremonial duties during state events. The National Guard is trained in real military tactics. The State Guard is probably eating this up as they will get to head to the military surplus store and get new equipment and play dress up. Rest of country misunderstands the difference. As a forth generation Texan I can assure you that I don’t go around bragging about being a Texan anymore. We have an election system in place that has effectively disenfranchised most of the electorate. Fewer than 1/4 of eligible voters now decide statewide elections. One of the worst election records in the country.
Your meant secession, right? They’ve already achieved success-ion. Economy is good, humidity could be better, but November is a pretty nice month. My family’s still there, but I’m an expat now, in WA.
The more I see of the rest of the country….Maybe we can take Louisiana with us. You know, New Orleans an all. Never mind. Forgot about that whole Napoleonic Code thing they got going on over there.
The most ludicrous thing about the Jade Helm paranoia is that the war game scenarios has China invading Texas. Seriously, the rest of the US has been trying to give Texas away but nobody wants crazy, not even China.
Hopefully, next year here in NC, we will kick all these ritches out and replace them with the semi-sane again. When you can’t win fairly, that is not a sign to start cheating. Right wing ideology has cost us a BILLION dollars in medicaid money over 2 years. Partying too hard on the lobbyists’ money etc. is nothing compared to cheating the citizens out of their rights to vote. I know I’m going to be ferrying anyone who needs a ride to register, or to vote! Suggest everyone do the same! For many, the civil rights movement started right here at a lunch counter in a Woolworths in Greensboro.
Liberals flip out over plenty of stuff: G.W. Bush is going to invade Iran, Republicans are using the word “targeting” when they talk about Democratic politicians they want to campaign against, oil companies are concealing technology that would make electric cars viable or make gas cars far more efficient, GMOs are harmful, the list goes on…
Nutty conspiracy theories are not limited to the right wing.
Probably the most harmful of the examples of excessive political correctness would be calling lunatics “conspiracy theorists.” No, sir, they are LUNATICS, and they should stand up proudly and demand to be called lunatics!
And, btw, the Republicans had better hope that they don’t win their Supreme Ct. case. A bunch of them are already praying for their own defeat. O’care has become popular all of a sudden, after 15,000,000 or so now have insurance for the first time ever. Of course, the latest from Florida is the legislature voting to make it harder for poor folks to get insured, while the “solons” themselves get ever sweeter health deals. America! What a country!
I wish Texas could secede. They would no longer be able to screw up our textbooks, send us retarded Presidents or scare us with their gross stupidity. Can we do a Constitutional amendment just to get rid of them? We could build that fence they’ve been wanting and close them off to protect ourselves. They would be a thrd world, poverty stricken nation within a year.Gosh, what a great thought.
If the Texas gov had the sense that God gave a radish, he would have made the following speech quite some time ago: “No, these routine military exercises will not lead to the Feds invading, nor imposing martial law, nor disarming people, nor putting them in tunnels under Wal-Marts (or Narnia or Oz). In OTHER news: No, we did not do 9/11 to ourselves. No, Obama was not secretly born in Kenya (or Narnia or Oz). No, he is not secretly a Muslim. No, we did not fake the moon landings. No, we are not currently faking the international space station. No, Bigfoot is not currently the mission commander of the international space station. Thank you.” With such a stirring speech, I can imagine that he might very well have convinced seven (or even eight!) lunatics to come back to reality.
AMERICA FOR THE AMERICANSNATURALIZE ALL OF THE WORLD POPULATIONEVERYBODY WOULD BECOME AMERICANS(Illegal immigration thereby would become impossible and the next election should certainly be interesting)
So as a taxpayer in Texas I am appalled that this kind of nonsense can be funded by the state government while the cuts that were made to public education in 2008 have yet to be restored. If secession ever happens, Texas will slowly but surely become a third world country because the paranoia would not cease just because the Fed is out of the picture. The loonies would have to start developing new idiotic conspiracy theories about whoever is in power in the new Nation of Texas. It would probably end up looking a lot like Syria.
Actually, Richard S. Russell, the question that was settled, was answered incorrectly. I am not in favor of any state succeeding, but apparently, Lincoln and the North failed to apply the Constitution when saying that no State has the right to leave once admitted. There is nothing in the Constitution to forbid it, and, the Declaration of Independence states that no man, who can no longer tolerate the government he lives under, is under any obligation to do so.
I am not sure if Texas will succeed nor secede. Maybe if they get rid of Abbott, they will succeed. We have brownback in Kansas but no one talks about secession. We probably won’t be sucessful with the policies of brownback, however, I would say…
My brother has lived in Texas for about 30 years, and I know there are good people there. However, this Jade Helm 15 debacle IS loony. There have been war games in Texas for many many years. The federal government does – and did communicate with the governor (as well as the governors of the other states in which the massive exercise would take place). No other governor saw the need to call up their state guards – no, Texas is not the only state with a state guard. There was no valid reason whatsoever other than to proclaim that they Don’t trust the government. Really and truly, what the loudest boors in Texas repeatedly declare is that they hate the United States. It’s a minority, sure, but I’d lay odds that it’s a bigger minority than in any other state.
I lived in Texas for years. I loved the sky at dusk. I wasn’t crazy about anything else, so I moved. I now live on a river in Washington State. I’m much happier here.
The South still doesn’t think so. Especially every time you hear them tout nonsense about State’s Rights. That issue was supposed to be SETTLED in that same war. End results were that the Feds allowed the former Confederate States to impose Jim Crow laws and other Civil Rights violations.
dukedoug said, about 12 hours ago@DavidHuieGreen“I have absolutely no wish to be an American.”.dukedoug, you know you wanna and probably TEXAN to boot. Embrace your desires.(Sorry about accidentally posting on tomorrow’s site, have deleted it there, placed it here where it belongs even if not absolutely seriously placed anywhere.)
BE THIS GUY over 9 years ago
I spent a few days in Texas. If I ever have to go back there, hopefully it will require me to use my US passport.
Argythree over 9 years ago
Compared to the Governor of Florida, the guy running Texas is a sweetheart…
moedred over 9 years ago
Some of us have been pushing for California secession since 2004. https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.moveoncalifornia.org/
AKHenderson Premium Member over 9 years ago
Abbott is trying to bring transparency (“facilitat[ing] communication and to make people comfortable and informed about what’s going on”)**, which can only be a good thing. Better people get their news from the governor’s office than from Alex Jones. If the kooks are making wild claims that have the potential to cause serious unrest (case in point: 9/11 trutherism), then the kooks shouldn’t go unchallenged – better communication between the state and DoD makes challenging them easier.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/state-politics/20150507-abbott-defends-keeping-eye-on-jade-helm-military-exercises.eceAKHenderson Premium Member over 9 years ago
Was the Bavarian Illuminati behind the German migration to the Texas hill country?
Yngvar Følling over 9 years ago
Let’s hear it for Cascadia
marzipANn over 9 years ago
With the Bush family and the Clinton family, succession is the problem: a perceived belief on their part that they should be a ruling family. With Texas it’s a secession problem:it sees itself as independent of the rest of the US and perhaps would make many happy by leaving.
Liverlips McCracken Premium Member over 9 years ago
Truth IS stranger than fiction. Texans are nuttier than a fruitcake.
JLG Premium Member over 9 years ago
Jeez, Mike. I know you get wrapped up in your work, but where’s your office, under a rock?
JLG Premium Member over 9 years ago
Hey, I just noticed——-when did Mike start combing his hair to the left again? He hasn’t worn it like that in almost 30 years.
Caldonia over 9 years ago
Oof, as if everyone in Texas is one of those paranoid freaks. I’m here, and I don’t even know one of those guys—to my knowledge!
TCA1799 Premium Member over 9 years ago
It takes just one nutball to paint a picture of all! sorry to my sane friends in TX, but he is your man! Y’all vote next election.
FosterGrant over 9 years ago
Take Arizona and Florida with you.
ladamson1918 over 9 years ago
Abbott is so bad that he managed to embarrass Rick Perry over this business. That’s about like getting a “just say no” lecture from Sid Vicious.
lbhorton over 9 years ago
to correct a misconception. Abbot charged the State Guard not the National Guard to observe. The State Guard are a bunch of old men playing army with outdated equipment. They provide labor during natural disasters and ceremonial duties during state events. The National Guard is trained in real military tactics. The State Guard is probably eating this up as they will get to head to the military surplus store and get new equipment and play dress up. Rest of country misunderstands the difference. As a forth generation Texan I can assure you that I don’t go around bragging about being a Texan anymore. We have an election system in place that has effectively disenfranchised most of the electorate. Fewer than 1/4 of eligible voters now decide statewide elections. One of the worst election records in the country.
Honorable Mention In The Banjo Toss Premium Member over 9 years ago
If Texas secedes, the Arizona Highway Patrol will be required to stop any driver wearing a ten-gallon hat on suspicion of being an illegal alien.
ZorkArg over 9 years ago
Your meant secession, right? They’ve already achieved success-ion. Economy is good, humidity could be better, but November is a pretty nice month. My family’s still there, but I’m an expat now, in WA.
Kirk Barnes Premium Member over 9 years ago
The more I see of the rest of the country….Maybe we can take Louisiana with us. You know, New Orleans an all. Never mind. Forgot about that whole Napoleonic Code thing they got going on over there.
dre7861 over 9 years ago
The most ludicrous thing about the Jade Helm paranoia is that the war game scenarios has China invading Texas. Seriously, the rest of the US has been trying to give Texas away but nobody wants crazy, not even China.
greenearthman over 9 years ago
Hopefully, next year here in NC, we will kick all these ritches out and replace them with the semi-sane again. When you can’t win fairly, that is not a sign to start cheating. Right wing ideology has cost us a BILLION dollars in medicaid money over 2 years. Partying too hard on the lobbyists’ money etc. is nothing compared to cheating the citizens out of their rights to vote. I know I’m going to be ferrying anyone who needs a ride to register, or to vote! Suggest everyone do the same! For many, the civil rights movement started right here at a lunch counter in a Woolworths in Greensboro.
realexander over 9 years ago
Liberals flip out over plenty of stuff: G.W. Bush is going to invade Iran, Republicans are using the word “targeting” when they talk about Democratic politicians they want to campaign against, oil companies are concealing technology that would make electric cars viable or make gas cars far more efficient, GMOs are harmful, the list goes on…
Nutty conspiracy theories are not limited to the right wing.
Godfreydaniel over 9 years ago
Probably the most harmful of the examples of excessive political correctness would be calling lunatics “conspiracy theorists.” No, sir, they are LUNATICS, and they should stand up proudly and demand to be called lunatics!
luvdafuneez over 9 years ago
The Illuminati are Luciferians.
greenearthman over 9 years ago
And, btw, the Republicans had better hope that they don’t win their Supreme Ct. case. A bunch of them are already praying for their own defeat. O’care has become popular all of a sudden, after 15,000,000 or so now have insurance for the first time ever. Of course, the latest from Florida is the legislature voting to make it harder for poor folks to get insured, while the “solons” themselves get ever sweeter health deals. America! What a country!
mourdac Premium Member over 9 years ago
Ann White was the last decent governor of Texas. The ones since her have turned the state into a clown circus.
ccbirdnerd over 9 years ago
I wonder if he gets snot on his glasses in that position?
tallguy98366 over 9 years ago
I wish Texas could secede. They would no longer be able to screw up our textbooks, send us retarded Presidents or scare us with their gross stupidity. Can we do a Constitutional amendment just to get rid of them? We could build that fence they’ve been wanting and close them off to protect ourselves. They would be a thrd world, poverty stricken nation within a year.Gosh, what a great thought.
Bob Blumenfeld over 9 years ago
You haven’t heard about the second Civil War, which started in November 2010 without a shot being fired?
And the South is winning.
montessoriteacher over 9 years ago
OK, Texas is not all bad, y’all. Texas has a large group of diverse people.
Edit Dolven Premium Member over 9 years ago
this country would be so much smarter without Texas.
Godfreydaniel over 9 years ago
If the Texas gov had the sense that God gave a radish, he would have made the following speech quite some time ago: “No, these routine military exercises will not lead to the Feds invading, nor imposing martial law, nor disarming people, nor putting them in tunnels under Wal-Marts (or Narnia or Oz). In OTHER news: No, we did not do 9/11 to ourselves. No, Obama was not secretly born in Kenya (or Narnia or Oz). No, he is not secretly a Muslim. No, we did not fake the moon landings. No, we are not currently faking the international space station. No, Bigfoot is not currently the mission commander of the international space station. Thank you.” With such a stirring speech, I can imagine that he might very well have convinced seven (or even eight!) lunatics to come back to reality.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 9 years ago
“I live in Texas and I am against succession.”.Whereas your living in Texas is a good reason to….
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 9 years ago
AMERICA FOR THE AMERICANSNATURALIZE ALL OF THE WORLD POPULATIONEVERYBODY WOULD BECOME AMERICANS(Illegal immigration thereby would become impossible and the next election should certainly be interesting)
Mark Smithhisler Premium Member over 9 years ago
So as a taxpayer in Texas I am appalled that this kind of nonsense can be funded by the state government while the cuts that were made to public education in 2008 have yet to be restored. If secession ever happens, Texas will slowly but surely become a third world country because the paranoia would not cease just because the Fed is out of the picture. The loonies would have to start developing new idiotic conspiracy theories about whoever is in power in the new Nation of Texas. It would probably end up looking a lot like Syria.
Carol69 over 9 years ago
yuggib over 9 years ago
Actually, Richard S. Russell, the question that was settled, was answered incorrectly. I am not in favor of any state succeeding, but apparently, Lincoln and the North failed to apply the Constitution when saying that no State has the right to leave once admitted. There is nothing in the Constitution to forbid it, and, the Declaration of Independence states that no man, who can no longer tolerate the government he lives under, is under any obligation to do so.
montessoriteacher over 9 years ago
I am not sure if Texas will succeed nor secede. Maybe if they get rid of Abbott, they will succeed. We have brownback in Kansas but no one talks about secession. We probably won’t be sucessful with the policies of brownback, however, I would say…
cdward over 9 years ago
My brother has lived in Texas for about 30 years, and I know there are good people there. However, this Jade Helm 15 debacle IS loony. There have been war games in Texas for many many years. The federal government does – and did communicate with the governor (as well as the governors of the other states in which the massive exercise would take place). No other governor saw the need to call up their state guards – no, Texas is not the only state with a state guard. There was no valid reason whatsoever other than to proclaim that they Don’t trust the government. Really and truly, what the loudest boors in Texas repeatedly declare is that they hate the United States. It’s a minority, sure, but I’d lay odds that it’s a bigger minority than in any other state.
Martin Kaplan over 9 years ago
I lived in Texas for years. I loved the sky at dusk. I wasn’t crazy about anything else, so I moved. I now live on a river in Washington State. I’m much happier here.
oldwolf1951 over 9 years ago
The South still doesn’t think so. Especially every time you hear them tout nonsense about State’s Rights. That issue was supposed to be SETTLED in that same war. End results were that the Feds allowed the former Confederate States to impose Jim Crow laws and other Civil Rights violations.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 9 years ago
don ’t you mean 2 days per month ? 2 weeks seems excessive.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 9 years ago
Night G , sure you can. It ’s a free country.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace over 9 years ago
dukedoug said, about 12 hours ago@DavidHuieGreen“I have absolutely no wish to be an American.”.dukedoug, you know you wanna and probably TEXAN to boot. Embrace your desires.(Sorry about accidentally posting on tomorrow’s site, have deleted it there, placed it here where it belongs even if not absolutely seriously placed anywhere.)
luvdafuneez over 9 years ago
BS.