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lost count of how many times iâve bonked the spammer. like Ellyâs idea of being in the cheering section for equality. however little sheâs actually doing, she is doing a little.
Skulker, itâs easy enough for spammers (or any of us) to change an IP address. I was on the anti-Spam side of this fight in a chat community a few years back; block an address, they get a new one, and the address remains blocked â so eventually someone who hasnât done anything wrong ends up getting a blocked address by âluck of the drawâ and you have an angry customer on your hands. I am surprised, though, to see the spam isnât removed after âabout 5 hoursâ.
NOW was also fighting to have stay at home dads. My wife has a Phd. and chooses to stay at home.. but we have talked switching rolls. I know I am on board with that. Its good to know less stigma exist for stay at home dads
This is a remarkably positive strip. And yes, see what April will do and even Elizabeth- so, she did succeed, if nothing else in raising 3 kids who carried her ideas out in the world.
John figured it out when his daughters (and wife, for that matter) showed him what they could do
My sister never had time for a family. Sheâs a Federal judge
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The woman next door wants to get back in the workforce after raising two kids. Lady, you made your decision.
Some man wants to get ahead but doesnât want to put in 80-100 weeks. Enjoy your middle class family life.
Doesnât my dusty book say something about two masters?
Ah, you think they should let you re roll the dice?
This all started when Ted showed up and opened his mouth. Why is he still allowed at their house? If my husband brought home someone like that, who showed me no respect in my own house, heâd no longer be welcome through the front door!
âWomen arenât quibbling over who gets the seat on the busâ, says Elly. That remark is most insensitive. For black people, that was a part of a world that was against them in whatever direction they turned.
I had always thought that the feminine revolution meant that people would be able to choose to live however they wanted as individuals. But it didnât work out that way.
I had been very proud to call myself a feminist. Then I discovered that nowadays âfeministâ is taken to mean âone who hates menâ. Whooo! I wonât be using that word any more.
As a feminist, I thought that each woman (and come to that, each man) should be able to choose what part of their life they would devote to working outside the house, and what part at home. I do believe I was ( / am) very naive. Apparently what people eventually took feminism to mean was that a woman had to have a full time career; otherwise, she should be ashamed of herself. Women who stayed home always admitted it defensively.
Lewreader thinks that a woman who has had children has no right to try to enter the workforce. The logic of this escapes me. Similarly he thinks that if you do have a job, itâs acceptable to have to work 80 - 100 hours a week. It seems to me he belongs in the dark ages.
I now close my mouth for a long time. I donât usually express myself this way, because I think itâs no use.
Since these strips have started to re-do the storyline from back when Mike and Elizabeth were small, remember that both Tedâs and Ellyâs opinions are those of people 30 years ago. At THAT time, âfeministâ was not a dirty word. Also, Ellyâs âseat on the busâ comment referred to a manâs giving his seat to a woman, not to front/back of the bus racism.
@ GLENBECK::::If you are the TV pundit, I would be happy if you and your wife did decide to reverse your roles. You stay home and take care of house and children, and let her find a nice lucrative job other than television.
OkayâŠwhy are women accepting that the word âfeministâ is now a dirty word? One that they wonât touch because theyâre not one of THOSEâŠa man-hater. That really bothers me, especially in a world where every minority is taking back all of their identity-names that has become âdirtyâ, Black, Deaf, Brown, GayâŠetc. Even the really dirty ones, like the N-word.
Being a feminist never meant hating men, it meant equalityâŠin all areas of life, for both men and women. And yes, I would like to see more women recruited for the military. It would bring more balance to military life.
Mythreesons: I highly doubt that the âglenbeckâ here is the TV pundit because if he is ⊠he spelled his own name wrong! The correct spelling is Glenn Beck.
@ letrice - I donât think women accept that âfeministâ is a dirty word. Somewhere along the line, right-wingers (Rush?) started using âfemi-naziâ implying that feminists were obstinant men-haters, so âfeministâ took on that bad image.
I am with you, feminism is about equality. And we still need it, according to statistics: women still donât make as much money doing the same job as men; when husband & wife both work full time, women still do the bulk of the child care and housework; men still dominate the political and business world. Well, at least there has been some progress since the 70âs!
RINA Sorry you donât feel you have to sacrifice home and family to get ahead. Did you read âTwo Mastersâ in that dusty book. Have you ever heard of a successful lawyer, doctor, or my sisterâs case, Fed judge who did not pay their dues with years of 100 hour weeks? A person leaves the workplace for 4 or 5 years. How in blazes do they think theyâll catch up. Gee, I wonder why I get 75% of my male co-workers pay? Cause they didnât take an unplanned 5 year vacation. Gee, just because I deserted my boss for years, why wonât he give me a management position? Men leave to serve their country. That is acceptable.. You ever get a letter that starts, âGREETINGS, YOU HAVE BEEN SELECTED BY YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS TO REPRESENT THEM IN THE SERVICE OF YOUR COUNTRYâ. Sorry we deprived you of that. Maybe by the time your daughter is old enough to fight and â
Lew, raising a child until they are old enough to go to school is not a âfive year vacationâ. You should know better than to say something like that.
Some people want to work 100 hour weeks, others donât. Itâs never divided down gender lines.
Thanks for backing me up, Celtic, Lindz and Teresa! Youâre right, we have come a good ways since the 70s (I wasnât even born yet) but still have a while to go, judging by some of the comments on here in 2010.
Take a look at this website and be thankful to feminists:
http://www.nownys.org/thankfeminist.html
Lew, well itâs absolutely possible to raise kids and be successful in your job too - of course depends on what âsuccessfulâ means, suppose you wonât go all the way up to CEO status if you arenât able to put in all those 80 hour weeks but who said thatâs the only way to be successful? Iâm with lectrice on this one.
I think one of the troubles with people being apathetic about womenâs rights now is that they donât realize what life really was like before women got the rights they have now, that there were so many small and large limitations on women. Like wearing pants or having your own credit card. Those two issues are such an non-issue now that itâs hard to wrap your head around the fact that they were very big issues only 50 years ago.
kboone4 almost 15 years ago
Stop the Spam, already! Keep your garbage over there. We donât want it.
myming almost 15 years ago
flag it !
iâve already got my score up to 12 at this sitting.
myming almost 15 years ago
doesnât matter that she works at home, john -
equality should be equal.
yyyguy almost 15 years ago
lost count of how many times iâve bonked the spammer. like Ellyâs idea of being in the cheering section for equality. however little sheâs actually doing, she is doing a little.
longandgreen almost 15 years ago
If equality doesnât start at home then where ? Come on John .
TheSkulker almost 15 years ago
We must be having some effect. At least he has to keep creating a new user name. However, I would have thunk gocomics would blacklist his IP address.
Donna White almost 15 years ago
Donât forget you also have a daughter, John. What do you want her life to be like?
stevhemker almost 15 years ago
Skulker, itâs easy enough for spammers (or any of us) to change an IP address. I was on the anti-Spam side of this fight in a chat community a few years back; block an address, they get a new one, and the address remains blocked â so eventually someone who hasnât done anything wrong ends up getting a blocked address by âluck of the drawâ and you have an angry customer on your hands. I am surprised, though, to see the spam isnât removed after âabout 5 hoursâ.
BuzzDog almost 15 years ago
âDonât forget you also have a daughter, John. What do you want her life to be like?â
If Johnâs anything like my dearly departed father, he hopes his daughter will marry well and not have to work outside of the home.
In my Dadâs case, all three of his daughters ended up having successful careers!
glenbeck almost 15 years ago
NOW was also fighting to have stay at home dads. My wife has a Phd. and chooses to stay at home.. but we have talked switching rolls. I know I am on board with that. Its good to know less stigma exist for stay at home dads
masnadies almost 15 years ago
This is a remarkably positive strip. And yes, see what April will do and even Elizabeth- so, she did succeed, if nothing else in raising 3 kids who carried her ideas out in the world.
John figured it out when his daughters (and wife, for that matter) showed him what they could do
lewisbower almost 15 years ago
My sister never had time for a family. Sheâs a Federal judge . The woman next door wants to get back in the workforce after raising two kids. Lady, you made your decision.
Some man wants to get ahead but doesnât want to put in 80-100 weeks. Enjoy your middle class family life.
Doesnât my dusty book say something about two masters?
Ah, you think they should let you re roll the dice?
Jaedabee almost 15 years ago
Just not equal responsibility.
Otherwise youâd see women out with signs saying âwe want to be federally mandated to sign up for Selective Service also!â :)
Seed_drill almost 15 years ago
God, this Mary Tyler Moore style femanism (and Tedâs sexism) are as outdated as Johnâs glasses. I miss the contemporary strips.
Wildmustang1262 almost 15 years ago
I think John better inserts his bare-foot in his own mouth.
FunkyMunkey1 almost 15 years ago
This all started when Ted showed up and opened his mouth. Why is he still allowed at their house? If my husband brought home someone like that, who showed me no respect in my own house, heâd no longer be welcome through the front door!
RinaFarina almost 15 years ago
âWomen arenât quibbling over who gets the seat on the busâ, says Elly. That remark is most insensitive. For black people, that was a part of a world that was against them in whatever direction they turned.
I had always thought that the feminine revolution meant that people would be able to choose to live however they wanted as individuals. But it didnât work out that way.
I had been very proud to call myself a feminist. Then I discovered that nowadays âfeministâ is taken to mean âone who hates menâ. Whooo! I wonât be using that word any more.
As a feminist, I thought that each woman (and come to that, each man) should be able to choose what part of their life they would devote to working outside the house, and what part at home. I do believe I was ( / am) very naive. Apparently what people eventually took feminism to mean was that a woman had to have a full time career; otherwise, she should be ashamed of herself. Women who stayed home always admitted it defensively.
Lewreader thinks that a woman who has had children has no right to try to enter the workforce. The logic of this escapes me. Similarly he thinks that if you do have a job, itâs acceptable to have to work 80 - 100 hours a week. It seems to me he belongs in the dark ages.
I now close my mouth for a long time. I donât usually express myself this way, because I think itâs no use.
coffeeturtle almost 15 years ago
rah! rah! sis-boom-bah! LOL! Go girl!
JanLC almost 15 years ago
Anybody notice that Johnâs comment was âYou work at homeâ, not âyou donât workâ. I think that says a lot for him.
banderpal almost 15 years ago
Since these strips have started to re-do the storyline from back when Mike and Elizabeth were small, remember that both Tedâs and Ellyâs opinions are those of people 30 years ago. At THAT time, âfeministâ was not a dirty word. Also, Ellyâs âseat on the busâ comment referred to a manâs giving his seat to a woman, not to front/back of the bus racism.
billdi Premium Member almost 15 years ago
and in the story arc pointless stupidity sweepstakes dick tracy has the lead but fbofw is closing fast.
Mythreesons almost 15 years ago
@ GLENBECK::::If you are the TV pundit, I would be happy if you and your wife did decide to reverse your roles. You stay home and take care of house and children, and let her find a nice lucrative job other than television.
sarsfieb almost 15 years ago
BuzzDog is right. I noticed my husband changed his mind about womenâs rights at work as soon as his daughters entered the work force.
lectrice almost 15 years ago
OkayâŠwhy are women accepting that the word âfeministâ is now a dirty word? One that they wonât touch because theyâre not one of THOSEâŠa man-hater. That really bothers me, especially in a world where every minority is taking back all of their identity-names that has become âdirtyâ, Black, Deaf, Brown, GayâŠetc. Even the really dirty ones, like the N-word.
Being a feminist never meant hating men, it meant equalityâŠin all areas of life, for both men and women. And yes, I would like to see more women recruited for the military. It would bring more balance to military life.
Gretchen's Mom almost 15 years ago
Mythreesons: I highly doubt that the âglenbeckâ here is the TV pundit because if he is ⊠he spelled his own name wrong! The correct spelling is Glenn Beck.
CelticBCs almost 15 years ago
@ letrice - I donât think women accept that âfeministâ is a dirty word. Somewhere along the line, right-wingers (Rush?) started using âfemi-naziâ implying that feminists were obstinant men-haters, so âfeministâ took on that bad image.
I am with you, feminism is about equality. And we still need it, according to statistics: women still donât make as much money doing the same job as men; when husband & wife both work full time, women still do the bulk of the child care and housework; men still dominate the political and business world. Well, at least there has been some progress since the 70âs!
Mythreesons almost 15 years ago
GretchensMom: I could only hope!
lewisbower almost 15 years ago
RINA Sorry you donât feel you have to sacrifice home and family to get ahead. Did you read âTwo Mastersâ in that dusty book. Have you ever heard of a successful lawyer, doctor, or my sisterâs case, Fed judge who did not pay their dues with years of 100 hour weeks? A person leaves the workplace for 4 or 5 years. How in blazes do they think theyâll catch up. Gee, I wonder why I get 75% of my male co-workers pay? Cause they didnât take an unplanned 5 year vacation. Gee, just because I deserted my boss for years, why wonât he give me a management position? Men leave to serve their country. That is acceptable.. You ever get a letter that starts, âGREETINGS, YOU HAVE BEEN SELECTED BY YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS TO REPRESENT THEM IN THE SERVICE OF YOUR COUNTRYâ. Sorry we deprived you of that. Maybe by the time your daughter is old enough to fight and â
lindz.coop Premium Member almost 15 years ago
I still call myself a âfeministâ regardless of the spin that jerks like Limbaugh put on it.
lectrice almost 15 years ago
Lew, raising a child until they are old enough to go to school is not a âfive year vacationâ. You should know better than to say something like that.
Some people want to work 100 hour weeks, others donât. Itâs never divided down gender lines.
Thanks for backing me up, Celtic, Lindz and Teresa! Youâre right, we have come a good ways since the 70s (I wasnât even born yet) but still have a while to go, judging by some of the comments on here in 2010.
hildigunnurr Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Take a look at this website and be thankful to feminists:
http://www.nownys.org/thankfeminist.html
Lew, well itâs absolutely possible to raise kids and be successful in your job too - of course depends on what âsuccessfulâ means, suppose you wonât go all the way up to CEO status if you arenât able to put in all those 80 hour weeks but who said thatâs the only way to be successful? Iâm with lectrice on this one.
pianist38 almost 15 years ago
Just wash rolled-up socks⊠dry them⊠tuck them into drawers. Whoever did it ⊠will quit. Trust me.
lectrice almost 15 years ago
Thanks for the website, Hildi!
I think one of the troubles with people being apathetic about womenâs rights now is that they donât realize what life really was like before women got the rights they have now, that there were so many small and large limitations on women. Like wearing pants or having your own credit card. Those two issues are such an non-issue now that itâs hard to wrap your head around the fact that they were very big issues only 50 years ago.