If an election means you can’t impeach, you might as well take impeachment out of the Constitution. It’s SUPPOSED to be an extra-electoral remedy. That’s why it’s there. That’s the whole idea.
But let’s give the President carte blanche to fix an election, and them pretend we care about the will of the voters in that election.
Trust the people? If Republicans trusted the people to vote, they would oppose gerrymandering and the electoral college.
John Bolton’s old comrades from “Fox & Friends” have officially unfriended him.
The longtime Republican national security hand and Fox News contributor went straight from his cable TV perch to a front-row seat in the White House for the Ukraine imbroglio that would lead to President Donald Trump’s impeachment.
But the former national security adviser’s forthcoming tell-all has added explosive details to the Senate’s impeachment trial in the eleventh hour.
And his old pals at Fox News, where he was a paid contributor for 11 years, have quickly disowned him from the pro-Trump family with a broadside of character attacks and critical news coverage.
Mitt Romney asked Trump’s lawyer when did Trump first request the hold on Ukraine, and what was his reason why? Trump’s defense had no answer.
Romney asked, “On what specific date did Trump first order the hold on aid to Ukraine, and did he give a reason at that time?”
This was Trump lawyer, Patrick Philbin’s response in part:
I don’t think that there is evidence in the record of a specific date, the specific date, but there is testimony in the record that individuals at OMB and elsewhere were aware of a hold as of July 3rd and there is evidence in the record of the president’s rationales from even earlier than that time.
There is an email from June 24th that has been publicly released. It was publicly released in response to a FOIA request that is from one dod staffer up to the chief of staff in DOD — excuse me, sorry, from the chief of staff down to a staffer in DOD, relating on the subject line, “POTUS follow-up.”
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Trump’s lawyers don’t have answers for the most basic questions, and Philbin’s response made the argument for calling more witnesses.
Mick Mulvaney could answer the question on when the hold was requested, and even better, the White House has the documented paper trail on when and why the hold was requested.
Clearly a conversation with a GOP Representative. I was going to suggest that the interlocutor is Jordan except for the suit coat. Collins wants to be the next GOP senatecritter for Georgia so it probably wouldn’t be him, either.
I thought this guy was at least somewhat free of Republican dogma. Oh well. I had to let go of Mallard Fillmore when he defended killing refugee children. This may end up in the trash too.
The actual defense proffered by trumps legal team is that he can literally do whatever he wants as long as he thinks his reelection is in the national interest. This is a recipe for tyranny. What president wouldn’t think his reelection is in the national interest?
Yeah cause the past few years of GOP gerrymandering of Congressional districts haven’t ensured all of the elections go the GOP way all the time. Yet you’re worried about Congressional oversight that is lawful within the Constitution as checks and balances.
Why worry about the election results. It will either be a second win for Trump or he’ll lose, claim the vote was rigged, call his followers to rally to his support and rise up against his democrat foes. When the civil war is over he’ll declare himself God emperor and set up his children as his heirs to the American Empire. The election results are irrelevant.
Christopher Shea almost 5 years ago
Can you go back to “Gosh, why is everyone so mean all the time?”, Scott? Even that is better than this pack of lies.
Georgette Washington Bunny almost 5 years ago
Well, that is how we got gerrymandering.
braindead Premium Member almost 5 years ago
Stantis would never have impeached Nixon.
Clinton, sure, impeached, convicted and removed.
Because It’s OKAY If A Republican Does It.
Patjade almost 5 years ago
Wow, what a way to project Republican ideals onto someone presumed to be a Democrat here.
kaffekup almost 5 years ago
Who cares if Vlad steals another election for his puppet?
The person has spoken!
45Nasrad almost 5 years ago
I don’t call the Democratic Party.Democratic party anymore, just Dems, they stopped being democratic years ago
RobinHood almost 5 years ago
What a pity, that they have to fight elections for their cause.
The inconvenience of having to get a majority.
If normal methods of persuasion, fail to win the applause.
There are other ways of establishing athority.
Rice/Webber
Durak Premium Member almost 5 years ago
Lord save us if people think that that is truly the intent.
Ignatz Premium Member almost 5 years ago
If an election means you can’t impeach, you might as well take impeachment out of the Constitution. It’s SUPPOSED to be an extra-electoral remedy. That’s why it’s there. That’s the whole idea.
But let’s give the President carte blanche to fix an election, and them pretend we care about the will of the voters in that election.
Trust the people? If Republicans trusted the people to vote, they would oppose gerrymandering and the electoral college.
Silly Season almost 5 years ago
@realDonaldTrump
“…goes out and IMMEDIATELY writes a nasty & untrue book.”
(next phrase)
“All Classified National Security. Who would do this?”
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“untrue book” and “All Classified National Security.”
(Two mutually exclusive rants… So which is it?)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1222496715422433281?s=20
Silly Season almost 5 years ago
John Bolton’s old comrades from “Fox & Friends” have officially unfriended him.
The longtime Republican national security hand and Fox News contributor went straight from his cable TV perch to a front-row seat in the White House for the Ukraine imbroglio that would lead to President Donald Trump’s impeachment.
But the former national security adviser’s forthcoming tell-all has added explosive details to the Senate’s impeachment trial in the eleventh hour.
And his old pals at Fox News, where he was a paid contributor for 11 years, have quickly disowned him from the pro-Trump family with a broadside of character attacks and critical news coverage.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/dyg3xa/fox-news-has-blocked-and-unfriended-john-bolton
Silly Season almost 5 years ago
Mitt Romney asked Trump’s lawyer when did Trump first request the hold on Ukraine, and what was his reason why? Trump’s defense had no answer.
Romney asked, “On what specific date did Trump first order the hold on aid to Ukraine, and did he give a reason at that time?”
This was Trump lawyer, Patrick Philbin’s response in part:
I don’t think that there is evidence in the record of a specific date, the specific date, but there is testimony in the record that individuals at OMB and elsewhere were aware of a hold as of July 3rd and there is evidence in the record of the president’s rationales from even earlier than that time.
There is an email from June 24th that has been publicly released. It was publicly released in response to a FOIA request that is from one dod staffer up to the chief of staff in DOD — excuse me, sorry, from the chief of staff down to a staffer in DOD, relating on the subject line, “POTUS follow-up.”
~
Trump’s lawyers don’t have answers for the most basic questions, and Philbin’s response made the argument for calling more witnesses.
Mick Mulvaney could answer the question on when the hold was requested, and even better, the White House has the documented paper trail on when and why the hold was requested.
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/29/mitt-romney-impeachment-trial-question.html
Wichita1.0 almost 5 years ago
The GOP credo of shaped reality mis-assigned.
Ignatz Premium Member almost 5 years ago
This is how far off the edge the Trump Party has gone, people: They now call John Bolton a leftist.
A# 466 almost 5 years ago
Clearly a conversation with a GOP Representative. I was going to suggest that the interlocutor is Jordan except for the suit coat. Collins wants to be the next GOP senatecritter for Georgia so it probably wouldn’t be him, either.
rossevrymn almost 5 years ago
This is b.s.
William Robbins Premium Member almost 5 years ago
I thought this guy was at least somewhat free of Republican dogma. Oh well. I had to let go of Mallard Fillmore when he defended killing refugee children. This may end up in the trash too.
quixotic3 almost 5 years ago
The actual defense proffered by trumps legal team is that he can literally do whatever he wants as long as he thinks his reelection is in the national interest. This is a recipe for tyranny. What president wouldn’t think his reelection is in the national interest?
Ignatz Premium Member almost 5 years ago
Yes, according to Alan Dershowitz, Donald Trump can murder his opponent in order to win an election, and nobody could do anything about it.
And the GOP seems to be going along with that.
Remember when they called Obama a tyrant for saying “I have a pen and a phone”?
Ben Premium Member almost 5 years ago
sounds more like the GOP, what with their voter suppression, gerrymandering and all
Brain Pudding almost 5 years ago
Nailed it Stantis. Dead on correct and a chilling reminder of the tyranny the Dems, statists and collectivists seek.
6.6TA almost 5 years ago
Why do I keep hearing “Twilight Zone” theme music?
Flatlander, purveyor of fine covfefe almost 5 years ago
Red or Blue, it’s what y’all do!
ndblackirish97 almost 5 years ago
Yeah cause the past few years of GOP gerrymandering of Congressional districts haven’t ensured all of the elections go the GOP way all the time. Yet you’re worried about Congressional oversight that is lawful within the Constitution as checks and balances.
CW Stevenson almost 5 years ago
Because we have read the at least one of the several books and articles published about the fraud and dishonesty of DJT.
jmworacle almost 5 years ago
Hey! Just like in Chicago.
gcottay almost 5 years ago
Stantis wants Trump above the law. I sure don’t!
1MadHat Premium Member almost 5 years ago
Yep, Winslow, that sends a shiver down my spine, too.
fuzzbucket Premium Member almost 5 years ago
If you carry liberalism too far, this is what you get. We need curbs on the extremists on both sides of the aisle.
Jim Kerner almost 5 years ago
Now we know why what’s his name likes Putin, Little Kim among others.
kentmarx36 almost 5 years ago
This cartoon is too blatantly STUPID to respond to in a calm fashion. Turn in your SHARPIE Stantis!
theincrediblebulk almost 5 years ago
Why worry about the election results. It will either be a second win for Trump or he’ll lose, claim the vote was rigged, call his followers to rally to his support and rise up against his democrat foes. When the civil war is over he’ll declare himself God emperor and set up his children as his heirs to the American Empire. The election results are irrelevant.