Odd how few people read further, past the giving of the first ten - there were a total of 613 given, if you take the time to go on a few chapters. All nicely detailed, do’s and dont’s, and lots of smiting and nasty stuff. Of course, since most people can’t seem to carry out the first ten at all, is it a wonder they prefer to ignore the rest or pretend they don’t exist?
Heck, most people can’t even keep the first and second commandment. Ah, well, I guess that’s the problem with this sort of thing.
Of course, I suppose if you use the excuse that these commandments were strictly between God and those of the People of the Covenant, and anyone from any other faith or lack thereof doesn’t have to pay attention to any of them, which would let most supposedly God-fearing Christian I know off the hook, but then, what rules of conduct do they then hold true at all?
@Potrzebie, the Golden Rule is encompassed and
unfolded in the Ten–or at least the last seven/six of them.
St. Augustine pointed out that (Catholic numbering) the
first three commandments relate to how we are to “love
God with all your strength and heart and mind” and the
next seven tell how we can “love your neighbor as
yourself”.
let’s see: Roman numerals hundreds of years before the Romans even existed? or is the implication that Roman numerals are God-given? Then why aren’t we using them today?
There’s a story that God offered “commandments” to the Vikings, who asked, “Like what?” “Thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal,” He replied. “Oh, no. That doesn’t fit our pillaging and plunder lifestyle.”
Next He went to the Romans. “Like what,” they asked. “Thou shalt not commit adultery,” was the reply. “Oh, no; that won’t allow our orgies.”
Then He went to Moses: “Would you be interested in any commandments?” “How much?” was the reply. “They’re free!” said God. “Then I’ll take ten.”
Some Old Testament scholar apparently counted 630 laws, but that includes all the dietary restrictions and details of the sacrificial offerings. The Decalogue is a good summary of our relationships with God, self, and other people, and a minimum standard for godly behavior. (And as bmonk has pointed out, there are really two “greatest” commandments.)
But Jesus showed the minimality of the ten - and why we need His righteousness - when he said, “you have heard that it was said… but I tell you…”
[“You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.]
@bmonk, apparently St. Augustine had Luke 10:25-28 in mind. Note that Jesus doesn’t say, ‘This do, and assert the following propositions about me, and my mother, and our (not just my: remember how I told you to pray?) Father, and about the books the rabbis are putting together and that are going to be written about me’.
BTW, ‘Aseret ha-Dibrot’ doesn’t mean Ten Commandments–it means Ten Utterances, or Sayings.
There are 613 mitvahs, if you want to go OT; the big ten was just a start: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/756399/jewish/The-613-Mitzvot.htm
From ten commandments, Moses wrote the “tax code” that took up all the shelf space, and was the basis for most “stoning offenses”.(and sharia law as well)
613 mitzvot. No one person can fulfill all of them because some are based on gender and some are only required of the Levites and Cohanim (sub-tribe of the Levites - priests).
People who are not part of the brit /contract/covenant with God only have to follow the 7 Noachide laws.
It was the sage Hillel standing on one foot when challenged by a soldier of the foreign regime of the moment that said “Do not do unto others what you would not have them do unto you. The rest is commentary. Go and learn.” It is said that soldier became a great scholar.
Mock and scorn as you will . The death of Osama bin Laden combined with the “weapons contracts ” between Russia and several Middle Eastern countries (as well as Chinese economic interest in the region ) may very well ignite the fires of Armageddon.
To quote a phrase from the movie Black Robe : “May death find you with God in mind. ”
Looks like Wiley has a little trouble with Roman numerals too. I see two 26’s(XXVI) one 27 (XXVII) no 28, one 29(XXIX) and of course one 30(XXX). Well, only the Super Bowl uses them anymore anyway.
pouncingtiger over 13 years ago
George Carlin could really help Moses with this problem.
Nebulous Premium Member over 13 years ago
And then EVERYSINGLEGOVERNMENT that has ever existed decided that 10 weren’t enough and started making more.
On the other hand, lots of people don’t seem to be able to follow all 10 correctly.
wmbrainiac over 13 years ago
George Carlin could really help Moses with this problem.
amen. well remembered.grapfhics over 13 years ago
Most people have trouble with the list George made.
Elaine Rosco Premium Member over 13 years ago
Just need the basics here.
Hika over 13 years ago
@pouncingtiger - so true, so missed. @wmbrainiac - I completely agree with you, except the “amen” part.
cdward over 13 years ago
I don’t know… I kind of like the “thou shalt not wear lime green bell bottom pants with a pink Neru jacket.” It’s way back there on the list.
roctor over 13 years ago
God always overreacts.
thirdguy over 13 years ago
roctor I’m not sure I want to post this close to you. Look out for the lightning!!
Brockie over 13 years ago
Take two tablets and call me in the morning.
FlashfyreSP over 13 years ago
“The Lord, the Lord Jehovah has given unto you these fifteen…” [drops one of the tablets] “Oy! Ten! Ten commandments for all to obey!”
Batlash Premium Member over 13 years ago
Didn’t they just call the rest of the “Leviticus”?
chaosed2 over 13 years ago
I wonder what commandment “XXX” was about?
lewisbower over 13 years ago
Would we have more or lawyers if the ten were accepted universally as the only law? Silly me, depends what you mean by “thou”.
ilsapadu over 13 years ago
There’s only ONE thing you really need to know…
Gotta go, breakfast is ready.
wilorg over 13 years ago
Odd how few people read further, past the giving of the first ten - there were a total of 613 given, if you take the time to go on a few chapters. All nicely detailed, do’s and dont’s, and lots of smiting and nasty stuff. Of course, since most people can’t seem to carry out the first ten at all, is it a wonder they prefer to ignore the rest or pretend they don’t exist?
Heck, most people can’t even keep the first and second commandment. Ah, well, I guess that’s the problem with this sort of thing.
Of course, I suppose if you use the excuse that these commandments were strictly between God and those of the People of the Covenant, and anyone from any other faith or lack thereof doesn’t have to pay attention to any of them, which would let most supposedly God-fearing Christian I know off the hook, but then, what rules of conduct do they then hold true at all?
Potrzebie over 13 years ago
What about the Golden rule? Doesn’t that trump all of these?!
Sandfan over 13 years ago
^ That Rule has degenerated into ‘Do it to others before they do it to you’.
bmonk over 13 years ago
@Potrzebie, the Golden Rule is encompassed and unfolded in the Ten–or at least the last seven/six of them. St. Augustine pointed out that (Catholic numbering) the first three commandments relate to how we are to “love God with all your strength and heart and mind” and the next seven tell how we can “love your neighbor as yourself”.
garyjbp over 13 years ago
let’s see: Roman numerals hundreds of years before the Romans even existed? or is the implication that Roman numerals are God-given? Then why aren’t we using them today?
TheDOCTOR over 13 years ago
Remember Mel Brookes version
dsom8 over 13 years ago
There’s a story that God offered “commandments” to the Vikings, who asked, “Like what?” “Thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal,” He replied. “Oh, no. That doesn’t fit our pillaging and plunder lifestyle.”
Next He went to the Romans. “Like what,” they asked. “Thou shalt not commit adultery,” was the reply. “Oh, no; that won’t allow our orgies.”
Then He went to Moses: “Would you be interested in any commandments?” “How much?” was the reply. “They’re free!” said God. “Then I’ll take ten.”
Some Old Testament scholar apparently counted 630 laws, but that includes all the dietary restrictions and details of the sacrificial offerings. The Decalogue is a good summary of our relationships with God, self, and other people, and a minimum standard for godly behavior. (And as bmonk has pointed out, there are really two “greatest” commandments.)
But Jesus showed the minimality of the ten - and why we need His righteousness - when he said, “you have heard that it was said… but I tell you…”
[“You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.]
prrdh over 13 years ago
@bmonk, apparently St. Augustine had Luke 10:25-28 in mind. Note that Jesus doesn’t say, ‘This do, and assert the following propositions about me, and my mother, and our (not just my: remember how I told you to pray?) Father, and about the books the rabbis are putting together and that are going to be written about me’.
BTW, ‘Aseret ha-Dibrot’ doesn’t mean Ten Commandments–it means Ten Utterances, or Sayings.
Can't Sleep over 13 years ago
Jeeze Louise! I came here looking for a comic strip, and discovered I’ve walked into a Sunday School!
Funny strip, Wiley!
hitman4cookies over 13 years ago
George Carlin did even better.
DavidGBA over 13 years ago
There are 613 mitvahs, if you want to go OT; the big ten was just a start: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/756399/jewish/The-613-Mitzvot.htm
biggaloot over 13 years ago
And the fact that there were only two commandments, but the others might make humans get the idea.
WaitingMan over 13 years ago
There’s a famous cliche that describes the god of the Old Testament perfectly; “Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
Varnes over 13 years ago
All you really need is a system of laws that society can agree on and adopt. Doesn’t need to be inspired by anyone or anything…
LeStats over 13 years ago
I’m an agnostic, but it’s a fact that if everyone followed those 10 rules the world would be a much better place.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
From ten commandments, Moses wrote the “tax code” that took up all the shelf space, and was the basis for most “stoning offenses”.(and sharia law as well)
treered over 13 years ago
^ yeah, read Deuteronomy, Numbers, Leviticus, zzz… (ZAP)
thirdrailmiche over 13 years ago
613 mitzvot. No one person can fulfill all of them because some are based on gender and some are only required of the Levites and Cohanim (sub-tribe of the Levites - priests).
People who are not part of the brit /contract/covenant with God only have to follow the 7 Noachide laws.
It was the sage Hillel standing on one foot when challenged by a soldier of the foreign regime of the moment that said “Do not do unto others what you would not have them do unto you. The rest is commentary. Go and learn.” It is said that soldier became a great scholar.
Siberman over 13 years ago
Mock and scorn as you will . The death of Osama bin Laden combined with the “weapons contracts ” between Russia and several Middle Eastern countries (as well as Chinese economic interest in the region ) may very well ignite the fires of Armageddon.
To quote a phrase from the movie Black Robe : “May death find you with God in mind. ”
W6BXQ, John over 13 years ago
Richard S. Russell,
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Reddragon4449 over 13 years ago
Looks like Wiley has a little trouble with Roman numerals too. I see two 26’s(XXVI) one 27 (XXVII) no 28, one 29(XXIX) and of course one 30(XXX). Well, only the Super Bowl uses them anymore anyway.
rgcviper over 13 years ago
To A Scented Flower: You and I are thinking on the same wavelength.
However, I have to ask: Did Letterman borrow the idea for the Top Ten from Moses, or vice-versa? :)
sleepeeg3 over 13 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAtRCJIqnk
jutrased over 13 years ago
THANK GOD I’M AN ATHEIST!!!