In the spring of 1987, when they should have been talking about Reagan’s malfeasance, the Washington press decided they had a safer target in the Democratic presidential candidates! (It’s telling that the GOP candidates were subject to no such pile-on—I didn’t notice any significant superiority on their part.) The mainstream press shrugged off Iran-Contra before the American people did…
I for one have NOT forgiven Reagan: he should have gone to prison like any war criminal, and I’m sure he’s gone to hell.
Oh yeah. I almost forgot about Oliver North and all that Iran/Contra stuff. I hear the NRA canned North because he claimed the head guy was crooked. …makes you think.
So, here is a question for you Yanks, not an opinion. The narrative is that you fight the good fight in a presidential election, do your best for your guy (and they have all been guys) but once X is elected, they are The President, revered by the nation and given due deference. So who was the last president for whom that was true? Obviously not Biden, tRump, Obama, BushII, Clinton, BushI (though all for different but related reasons). Ronnie at the time (though the glitter has worn off in hindsight)? Carter?
The Clintons were, and still are, corporatists who tried to be socially progressive, but were frustrated by Newt Gingrinch and his Contract On America among other things.
When I was in high school back in the 60s, my social studies teacher pointed out that if the US pulled a veto in the United Nations Security Council, there was an uproar, but when the USSR did … crickets. (Well, he didn’t use that term because it wasn’t a term back then.) Because the USSR always pulled vetoes, so they were held to a lesser standard than the US.
For the record: For more than 3 decades, the RepubliQans had pretty much constant “investigations” going. I use the quotation marks because these exercises in partisan persecution had no interest in truth; they were intended to find something – anything to pin on a Clinton – any Clinton.
For the millions of man-hours and hundreds of million of tax dollars they expended, they came up with a total of 1 (one) felony indictment of a distant associate for something completely unrelated to the Clintons, and one impeachment for lying about a beej. Period.
So, while Bill & Hillary are both corporately controlled conservatives, we know that there are at least 2 people in US politics who are not criminals, thanks to the right’s obsession with “proving” otherwise.
“We’re talking about the most ethically challenged White House in a century.” Hah! Not anymore, you’re not! The Babe Ruth of Corruption, the Koup Klux Kommander has set the new record far beyond anyone’s reach. Until 2024, of course.
BE THIS GUY almost 3 years ago
Since only liberals are held to ethical standards, I guess Chase isn’t counting Watergate, either.
Bullet Bronson Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Just wait about two decades, Chase. Then you’ll see ethically challenged.
Johnny Q Premium Member almost 3 years ago
In the spring of 1987, when they should have been talking about Reagan’s malfeasance, the Washington press decided they had a safer target in the Democratic presidential candidates! (It’s telling that the GOP candidates were subject to no such pile-on—I didn’t notice any significant superiority on their part.) The mainstream press shrugged off Iran-Contra before the American people did…
I for one have NOT forgiven Reagan: he should have gone to prison like any war criminal, and I’m sure he’s gone to hell.
braindead Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Mark has forgotten that It’s OKAY If A Republican Does It!
fuzzbucket Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Clinton got away with a hell of a lot, but mainly because he kept us laughing while he did it.
VegaAlopex almost 3 years ago
Clinton is a “liberal”? Don’t make me laugh. He’s a corporate Democrat. If he were in Canada, he’d be a Progressive Conservative.
PaulAbbott2 almost 3 years ago
To quote Bachman Turner Overdrive, “you Ain’t seen nothin’ yet”
ACK! Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Republicans – setting new standards in hypocracy (sic).
Masterskrain almost 3 years ago
It was the Republican line of thought then, and it’s STILL the Republican line of thought today!
“DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO!!”Jaymi Cee Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Ah…salad days.
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Oh yeah. I almost forgot about Oliver North and all that Iran/Contra stuff. I hear the NRA canned North because he claimed the head guy was crooked. …makes you think.
this is summerdog almost 3 years ago
Couldn’t Chase have been drawn a tiny bit better looking? Or a lot?
robertthomasson Premium Member almost 3 years ago
So, here is a question for you Yanks, not an opinion. The narrative is that you fight the good fight in a presidential election, do your best for your guy (and they have all been guys) but once X is elected, they are The President, revered by the nation and given due deference. So who was the last president for whom that was true? Obviously not Biden, tRump, Obama, BushII, Clinton, BushI (though all for different but related reasons). Ronnie at the time (though the glitter has worn off in hindsight)? Carter?
Teto85 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
The Clintons were, and still are, corporatists who tried to be socially progressive, but were frustrated by Newt Gingrinch and his Contract On America among other things.
mindjob almost 3 years ago
feigning outrage again
Bucinka almost 3 years ago
Ah, courtship talk.
Bob Blumenfeld almost 3 years ago
When I was in high school back in the 60s, my social studies teacher pointed out that if the US pulled a veto in the United Nations Security Council, there was an uproar, but when the USSR did … crickets. (Well, he didn’t use that term because it wasn’t a term back then.) Because the USSR always pulled vetoes, so they were held to a lesser standard than the US.
198.23.5.11 almost 3 years ago
These two were inspired by Felix Unger and Oscar Madison.
Drummer54 almost 3 years ago
Some things never change.
Brazosman1 almost 3 years ago
I can’t recall the number of times somebody said, “Well, you should have known!” Ehh, any excuse is a good one for an execution!
Cozmik Cowboy almost 3 years ago
For the record: For more than 3 decades, the RepubliQans had pretty much constant “investigations” going. I use the quotation marks because these exercises in partisan persecution had no interest in truth; they were intended to find something – anything to pin on a Clinton – any Clinton.
For the millions of man-hours and hundreds of million of tax dollars they expended, they came up with a total of 1 (one) felony indictment of a distant associate for something completely unrelated to the Clintons, and one impeachment for lying about a beej. Period.
So, while Bill & Hillary are both corporately controlled conservatives, we know that there are at least 2 people in US politics who are not criminals, thanks to the right’s obsession with “proving” otherwise.
Geophyzz almost 3 years ago
With the current shenanigans in the ReTrupmlican party, these past skirmishes are boring.
sisterea almost 3 years ago
Things never change do they
SavannahJim Premium Member almost 3 years ago
THAT explains a LOT! Changes exactly bupkiss but at least I can sleep again.
mrwalker008 almost 3 years ago
BORING!
198.23.5.11 almost 3 years ago
BLAST FROM THE PAST
When Wendell Willkie was running against FDR in 1940,he was a little dizzy from a grueling whistle stop train tour.
He says—“I’m happy to be here in teh great metropolitan city of Chicago!”
An aide whispers to him that it isn’t Chicago,they’re in the suburb of Cicero.
And Willkie says—“This is Cicero?Okay,then to hell with Chicago!!”.The Democratic Machine didn’t like it.
moondog42 Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Eh, at least half what conservatives said Billy Jeff did was forged from whole cloth, and had little basis in actual objective reality.
NatureBatsLast almost 3 years ago
Clinton a Liberal?? Ha!
Rich Douglas almost 3 years ago
“We’re talking about the most ethically challenged White House in a century.” Hah! Not anymore, you’re not! The Babe Ruth of Corruption, the Koup Klux Kommander has set the new record far beyond anyone’s reach. Until 2024, of course.
jvscanlan Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Thank’s for modern politics Newt . . .
rossevrymn almost 3 years ago
basically
mistercatworks almost 3 years ago
This is actually a good point. You cannot pretend to hold a higher ethical standard and yet use the “everybody’s doing it” excuse.
It was said that everyone left a meeting with President Clinton with the feeling that they had been heard and agreed with. Of course, the next day …
Charming guy who actually did get a lot done but had trouble admitting he couldn’t keep it in his pants.