I see SC is trying to con the other SC into letting them disenfranchise voters, gerrymander even more, make voting almost impossible in dem districts and and steal elections if they don’t like the actual result. That should be prison time for even thinking about it.
Put the manipulation aside and have twelve states do primaries. Three a month over four months Feb to May. Most populous states based on last census taking one from each of the three time zones for each primary.
Dump the Super Tuesday, compact the nutso campaigning, and take out the wheelin’ and dealin’ to give more people a say. Possibly decrease the chances of the extremists getting a foothold.
Given that it can be shown that the primary system is a root cause of deepening division in the US — shouldn’t we switch to Single Transfer Voting to make our country stronger and waste less time/money?
I don’t care which state is first as long as it’s a primary and not a caucus. Primaries are a more accurate measure of actual voting trends where caucuses are more indicative of enthusiasm. They’re why we get things like the mirage of Bernie Sanders being able to win the nomination which then leads to resentment when the actual numbers start coming in. The kind of resentment that played a significant part in giving us trump in 2016.
If I had my druthers, I’d have ALL states have their primaries on the same day. There is no reason any one state should set the tone for the rest when it comes to selecting their candidate.
a corporation can’t vote so how does it get protection under the first amendment to throw money at candidates, only the Supreme Court knows, booga booga
Well, for one thing, many of the decisive Revolutionary battles were waged in South Carolina. Many of those lost battles forced Cornwallis to move his troops back north where he was defeated by Washington.
Iowa has very very little in common with the rest of the United States (in terms of ethnicities, in terms of industries, in terms of so forth and so on), so of COURSE it never made the tenth part of a sense that they would have the first caucus. It’s a tourism industry, nothing more, nothing less. Which is why it continues to make no sense and continues to be the first caucus……..
And, yes of course, there should be NO caucuses, only primaries, and the best system would be some kind of rotating system of REGIONAL primaries. Plenty of states on each voting day, with the other regions getting first crack in their order. (The actual best system would be viable third parties but of course we’re dealing with reality here.)
South Carolina also did a grateful nation a big fat favor by being the first to articulate the Confederate credo, in the form of the forcefully-written Covenant of Secession, which helpfully laid out the defense of slavery as the first and foremost concern of Southerners. Not so much in it about tariffs and so on. “States’ Rights” mostly figured in connection with the ludicrous notion that the states had the right to ignore any federal statute they disagreed with.
South Caroline saved the Democrats by ensuring Joe Biden’s bid for the nomination was alive. Those voters are more representative of the Democratic Party than a very small number of White people in Iowa in a barely-fair caucus process. Pass.
I’m glad SC is (likely) going to get to go first. It serves the party better.
Flashaaway over 1 year ago
I see SC is trying to con the other SC into letting them disenfranchise voters, gerrymander even more, make voting almost impossible in dem districts and and steal elections if they don’t like the actual result. That should be prison time for even thinking about it.
Daeder over 1 year ago
America should have a more diverse state be the first state in the National Primary!
GOGOPOWERANGERS over 1 year ago
Why not any blue state?
FreyjaRN Premium Member over 1 year ago
Someone has to start something. Voting is better than war.
scote1379 Premium Member over 1 year ago
Never seen that type of bridge in New Hampshire, plenty of wooden covered Bridges though !
admiree2 over 1 year ago
Put the manipulation aside and have twelve states do primaries. Three a month over four months Feb to May. Most populous states based on last census taking one from each of the three time zones for each primary.
Dump the Super Tuesday, compact the nutso campaigning, and take out the wheelin’ and dealin’ to give more people a say. Possibly decrease the chances of the extremists getting a foothold.
rossevrymn over 1 year ago
When’s that war going to end?
s49nav over 1 year ago
Danziger gets it right!
Masterskrain over 1 year ago
Here’s a thought… ALL PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARIES SHOULD BE HELD ON THE SAME DAY!!!
superposition over 1 year ago
Given that it can be shown that the primary system is a root cause of deepening division in the US — shouldn’t we switch to Single Transfer Voting to make our country stronger and waste less time/money?
Direwolf over 1 year ago
I don’t care which state is first as long as it’s a primary and not a caucus. Primaries are a more accurate measure of actual voting trends where caucuses are more indicative of enthusiasm. They’re why we get things like the mirage of Bernie Sanders being able to win the nomination which then leads to resentment when the actual numbers start coming in. The kind of resentment that played a significant part in giving us trump in 2016.
Havel over 1 year ago
Not a fan of much (most) of SC history, but they did play a significant role in the American Revolution.
nodjt over 1 year ago
It’s time for Iowa to move out of the seventeenth century.
piper_gilbert over 1 year ago
Steve King is completely opposed to all of this.
Adolf Trump over 1 year ago
I’d choose Hawaii.
T Smith over 1 year ago
South Carolina revived President Biden’s candidacy, leading to T****’s defeat… that deserves some kind of reward.
cdward over 1 year ago
If I had my druthers, I’d have ALL states have their primaries on the same day. There is no reason any one state should set the tone for the rest when it comes to selecting their candidate.
rlaker22j over 1 year ago
a corporation can’t vote so how does it get protection under the first amendment to throw money at candidates, only the Supreme Court knows, booga booga
preacherman Premium Member over 1 year ago
Well, for one thing, many of the decisive Revolutionary battles were waged in South Carolina. Many of those lost battles forced Cornwallis to move his troops back north where he was defeated by Washington.
DROODLE over 1 year ago
Scissors, paper, rock….. until last person standing.
198.23.5.11 over 1 year ago
All that great South Carolina food…..
codak over 1 year ago
new Hampshire should be replaced, but Iowa should stay
ROSTERM3 over 1 year ago
I would rather there be all primaries and no caucuses.
Godfreydaniel over 1 year ago
Iowa has very very little in common with the rest of the United States (in terms of ethnicities, in terms of industries, in terms of so forth and so on), so of COURSE it never made the tenth part of a sense that they would have the first caucus. It’s a tourism industry, nothing more, nothing less. Which is why it continues to make no sense and continues to be the first caucus……..
Godfreydaniel over 1 year ago
And, yes of course, there should be NO caucuses, only primaries, and the best system would be some kind of rotating system of REGIONAL primaries. Plenty of states on each voting day, with the other regions getting first crack in their order. (The actual best system would be viable third parties but of course we’re dealing with reality here.)
Nantucket Premium Member over 1 year ago
Either have all primaries on the same day, or split the U.S. into groups that each take turns going first.
nyg16 over 1 year ago
yeah new hampshire should move down south with the rest of the racist states
DavidCB Premium Member over 1 year ago
Galada? Salada? Anyone know?
randolini Premium Member over 1 year ago
This is how the left plans to keep those who want to help the less fortunate from winning elections and keeps the corporate psychos in power.
AndrewSihler over 1 year ago
There’s that, for sure.
South Carolina also did a grateful nation a big fat favor by being the first to articulate the Confederate credo, in the form of the forcefully-written Covenant of Secession, which helpfully laid out the defense of slavery as the first and foremost concern of Southerners. Not so much in it about tariffs and so on. “States’ Rights” mostly figured in connection with the ludicrous notion that the states had the right to ignore any federal statute they disagreed with.
Rich Douglas over 1 year ago
South Caroline saved the Democrats by ensuring Joe Biden’s bid for the nomination was alive. Those voters are more representative of the Democratic Party than a very small number of White people in Iowa in a barely-fair caucus process. Pass.
I’m glad SC is (likely) going to get to go first. It serves the party better.