Well, the aspens are a single clone and the individual ants aren’t.
But I’ve always considered that the individual ants (and worker bees too for hives) are more like human skin cells: Useful and important but not individually: the loss of some of them doesn’t mean anything to the nest (or hive) which is what I think of as the real organism.
Speaking of trees, The Hidden Life of Trees: What They Feel, How They Communicate, by Peter Wohlleben. Maybe not such a single organism after all? Great book, I must say.
Terry Pratchett’s “Discworld” books occasionally mentioned “Hex,” a digital computer made from an ant colony. It was assembled by Ponder Stibbins, who was failing as a wizard because he was too good as an engineer.
As long as we’re plugging books, let me put in an excellent word for An Immense World, by Ed Yong. It’s about the way animals sense the world. It does indeed cover ants, termites, bees, and other colonial insects, and their perceptions and means of communication are intriguing.
If “great minds all thought alike”, there would not be any progress. It’s the oddballs and weirdos coming up with viewpoints challenging the current paradigm/consensus that move our understanding of the world forward.
Concretionist 4 months ago
Well, the aspens are a single clone and the individual ants aren’t.
But I’ve always considered that the individual ants (and worker bees too for hives) are more like human skin cells: Useful and important but not individually: the loss of some of them doesn’t mean anything to the nest (or hive) which is what I think of as the real organism.
diazch408 4 months ago
This is why the kids like you, Frazz(and Miss Plainwell, to a extent)!
ozed 4 months ago
20 quadrillion minds fewer, in fact (give or take). >
Ichabod Ferguson 4 months ago
Isn’t a stand of bamboo a single organism?
sandpiper 4 months ago
Glad it’s Friday. Only one more day of scintillating dialogue
Jhony-Yermo 4 months ago
Speaking of trees, The Hidden Life of Trees: What They Feel, How They Communicate, by Peter Wohlleben. Maybe not such a single organism after all? Great book, I must say.
goboboyd 4 months ago
Now, how bees seem to know what to do in every situation, amazes me.
jerrodmason 4 months ago
Douglas Hofstadter, author of “Goedel, Escher, Bach”, devotes an entire chapter to this very proposition. He calls the organism Aunt Hillary.
puddleglum1066 4 months ago
Terry Pratchett’s “Discworld” books occasionally mentioned “Hex,” a digital computer made from an ant colony. It was assembled by Ponder Stibbins, who was failing as a wizard because he was too good as an engineer.
Richard S Russell Premium Member 4 months ago
As long as we’re plugging books, let me put in an excellent word for An Immense World, by Ed Yong. It’s about the way animals sense the world. It does indeed cover ants, termites, bees, and other colonial insects, and their perceptions and means of communication are intriguing.
Cactus-Pete 4 months ago
Probably because they’re not a single brain, don’t act like one, and it’s another bad assumption.
brick10 4 months ago
Does the queen ant/bee mate with just one male? If yes, there would be 1/2 sisters.
Billy Yank 4 months ago
If “great minds all thought alike”, there would not be any progress. It’s the oddballs and weirdos coming up with viewpoints challenging the current paradigm/consensus that move our understanding of the world forward.
Donald Heller 4 months ago
Aunt Hillary (GEB)
markkahler52 4 months ago
And if you could just charge each ant at least $100 rent in your yard? Unreal….