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Iâm sorry, Lynn; these are just not funny anymore. And as a father who cooperated fully in raising our four children to responsible adulthood, I also find them insulting.
not everyone is as equal as you, max. and the concept of relaxing while amusing kids on a long car trip is amusing (to me, at least) since itâs so patently ridiculous. too bad you donât appreciate it, but obviously there are still a lot of folks who do.
I could always sort of zone out. Itâs safe to court highway hypnosis when you arenât the one driving. Had some of my best fantasy adventures, staring out the window at the rushing sceneryâŠ.
I find it all too true. However on our long car trips, I have to drive and entertain the kids while husband sleeps. Course he sleeps through everything and is zero help around the house so I would be glad for any relief.
Donât take things so personally, Max. As a wife and mother, I donât get offended when Elly freaks out about stuff that I wouldnât. Itâs just a slice of life, not meant to apply to everyone.
I remember reading long books or staring out the window on our road trips growing up. My kids are good at amusing themselves, esp on our 9 hour trips overseas with a 8 hour drive the next day. But they also watch about 1 hour of TV a month, so theyâre very creative and used to playing by themselves.
Although, recently we went on a 7 hour drive with friends and I was jealous that their kids slept through about half of it. Sometimes some peace and quiet is nice.
At first I thought it was just me. But judging by some of the comments over the past few weeks, Iâm obviously not the only one who has noticed this development.
We all know the story of why Lynn Johnston stopped the strip and started over with a different perspective. And whereas I (and others) maintain a degree of empathy and/or sympathy for her circumstances, that still doesnât justify the change in the strip.
The change I am of course referring to is portraying the husband as a clueless, self-absorbed buffoon with the potential for philandering. While I can understand her need to vent because of her own circumstances, in the process, this portrays the male lead in the most derogatory and stereotypical way. And as another poster said this morning, I also find such a portrayal insulting.
Just imagine the hysteria if the roles were reversed and Elly was the one portrayed in that fashion. The reaction would be swift and furious. Well, you canât have it both ways. So kindly stop with the negative male stereotyping.
for BlitzMcD and all others who think the âearly daysâ have somehow changedâŠ..
todayâs strip IS an original from the 1970âs. Iâve been a longtime fan and sent this one to my mom (now decieased) as a joke to remind her of the good old days traveling with dad.
itâs not rocket science to be able to see the differences between the original strips and the ârefreshedâ ones
I remember using comic books, and my imagination about where our travels would take us. I loved travelling with my parents as a kid.
I met so many other kids from all around Canada and the USA.
Anyone else notice that Elly is using one arm over the seat back to attempt to entertain the baby? She IS already doing what she can from the front seat, which is not very relaxing. However, I donât see this as particularly bitter, sheâs just giving John a âhello, canât you see that I am?â lookâŠ.and sheâs not yelling at anyone either. I think she wants to give her arm a breakâthatâs a very awkward position!
Itâs interesting how every week weâll have a few comments stating that the humor or relationships portrayed in a given strip are somehow out of date, or âno longer funny.â
Does the Liâl Abner strip get the same response?
Perhaps it would help if the strips showed the original publication date, like on Lynnâs own site.
The trick to road trips with kids is to keep them up all day running around (with one of the parents up too mind you and the other sleeping as best as they can) then pile into the car around 8 oâclock or 9 pm and drive. This is how my family did it, we didnât wake up until we were almost were we needed to be (unless we were going to the happiest place on earth, lol). on the plus side, you got two sleeps at the same motel so you save some money too :D
OakDragon, where on Lynnâs site does it give the original dates of daily strips? This is how I take your meaning, and I havenât found it at FBORFW.
gab4x4! Thatâs what MY family did for long car trips, too, when I was a pup!
As far as the assumed male or female bashing goesâŠ.the strip is supposed to be funnyâŠ.it wouldnât be without the exaggerated style that goes on. Lynnâs just funâin you.
My brothers, sisters and I used to take long trips for the vacations, we brought the travel games, reading books or comic books and others to keep us busy instead of being a boredom on long trip. Nowadays there have TV, DVD in the SUV or so. It is so lucky than what we had in our times. Sigh!
Agree in general w/Max and Blitz, the strip not funny or poignant anymore. Being a woman, I was a bit more tuned in to the stereotypical old-fashioned woman roles illustrated in the strip since it started over the male roles, but now I notice both and I get that little âtwingeâ when I read it. I sense an undercurrent of hostility from Lynne re: relating to her historical circumstances, but I feel that it undermines the potential of the strip.
Some things are best left in the past, and this also learned from my own personal experiences, hostility over othersâ behavior is one of them, and apparently now old comics are too.
When we went on long car trips, we played the licence plate game, looking for new and interesting provinces or states that we had not seen before. Plates from Alaska or the Northwest Territories were extra-special - you couldnât expect to see them more than once in your lifetime.
Since everybody is saying what annoys them about this strip, what annoys me (and I know thatâs supposed to be the whole point of the joke) is that sheâs volunteering to drive, which he takes literally, instead of saying âI need a break from amusing the kids - I want to drive for a while.â
Oh well. I donât usually let comic strips get to me.
Burgundy2, she actually lives near North Bay, not Thunder Bay. Right in the middle of the provinceâs best camping, an hour and a half from Algonquin Park and less than an hour from all kinds of other great camping.
Rina: Good point; Elly should be more direct about stating the actual nature of the problem. On the other hand, thereâs no doubt that John GETS the actual nature of the problem, and is hoping Elly will continue to be too unassertive to lay it on the table. Heâs playing the game by her rules, but heâs definitely playing the game.
beep-beep-beep! OK, back the trucks up over here and over there. set up a HAZMAT containment tent over the infestation verify secure attachment and comence fumigation of obnoxious, rude, insulting varmints. (s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s)
Oh please. We have the right to criticize a comic that we no longer find funny. Thereâs no need to bring out the Zyklon-B.
I agree with with a lot of people who seem to have come out of the woodwork today to say this. The strip is outdated, not funny, and is mean-spirited pretty often. Iâve noticed that a lot of the comments on here tend to be advice towards the comic characters on how to fix the âfunnyâsituation theyâve gotten themselves into. The the comments go off on an tangent where people talk about their own memories that are related to the subject matter, which I do enjoy since theyâre often funnier. I never see any laughter or anticipation for tomorrowâs strip.
Yes, I know these are mostly repeats with some new strips thrown in once in a while, but theyâre so old that they might as well be new again since most of us have never seen them before. SoâŠwe judge them with todayâs attitude. A timeless classic should be just that, timeless. Even if the clothes and the language are different, the basic humanity of the characters should come through. Instead we get to see Elly hating being a housewife, hating being a mother, hating everything about her life and suffering away without making any real changes. Thatâs not a comic strip! Thatâs a therapistâs strip!
Max Starman Jones over 15 years ago
Iâm sorry, Lynn; these are just not funny anymore. And as a father who cooperated fully in raising our four children to responsible adulthood, I also find them insulting.
yyyguy over 15 years ago
not everyone is as equal as you, max. and the concept of relaxing while amusing kids on a long car trip is amusing (to me, at least) since itâs so patently ridiculous. too bad you donât appreciate it, but obviously there are still a lot of folks who do.
4deerinmyyard over 15 years ago
I could always sort of zone out. Itâs safe to court highway hypnosis when you arenât the one driving. Had some of my best fantasy adventures, staring out the window at the rushing sceneryâŠ.
ejcapulet over 15 years ago
âRelax and amuse the kidsâ - as big a contradiction in terms as âmilitary intelligenceâ.
mcveinot over 15 years ago
I find it all too true. However on our long car trips, I have to drive and entertain the kids while husband sleeps. Course he sleeps through everything and is zero help around the house so I would be glad for any relief.
pearlandpeach over 15 years ago
4deer. you have it rightâŠ.best âtripsâ ever. Sometimes being 10/11 was the best of times.
lightenup Premium Member over 15 years ago
Donât take things so personally, Max. As a wife and mother, I donât get offended when Elly freaks out about stuff that I wouldnât. Itâs just a slice of life, not meant to apply to everyone.
I remember reading long books or staring out the window on our road trips growing up. My kids are good at amusing themselves, esp on our 9 hour trips overseas with a 8 hour drive the next day. But they also watch about 1 hour of TV a month, so theyâre very creative and used to playing by themselves.
Although, recently we went on a 7 hour drive with friends and I was jealous that their kids slept through about half of it. Sometimes some peace and quiet is nice.
TheGiantBrain over 15 years ago
Those kids are out of control. My dad wou;d have made one warning about (âIf I have to stop this carâŠâ) and that straightened us out but quick!
alondra over 15 years ago
I envied my big brother who could read during long trips. I couldnât, Iâd get carsick.
Elly should INSIST on switching places not just give him the evil eye.
TheGiantBrain over 15 years ago
Macushlalondra said Elly should INSIST on switching places not just give him the evil eye.
Iâve noticed a lot of anti-male sentiment in your posts. Lighten up, itâs just a comic strip.
lightenup Premium Member over 15 years ago
GiantBrain (how ironic), you have a selective memory, and theyâre just comments. Or are you feeling extra sensitive today?
By the way, I actually love men â itâs grumpy people that I donât.
hookedoncomics over 15 years ago
I donât see any anti-male sentiments, just the truth. Iagree with you lightenup!
Silverpearl over 15 years ago
And the other side of the story is that when the kids and mom are tired, dad gets to nap and let mom do the driving.
BlitzMcD over 15 years ago
At first I thought it was just me. But judging by some of the comments over the past few weeks, Iâm obviously not the only one who has noticed this development.
We all know the story of why Lynn Johnston stopped the strip and started over with a different perspective. And whereas I (and others) maintain a degree of empathy and/or sympathy for her circumstances, that still doesnât justify the change in the strip.
The change I am of course referring to is portraying the husband as a clueless, self-absorbed buffoon with the potential for philandering. While I can understand her need to vent because of her own circumstances, in the process, this portrays the male lead in the most derogatory and stereotypical way. And as another poster said this morning, I also find such a portrayal insulting.
Just imagine the hysteria if the roles were reversed and Elly was the one portrayed in that fashion. The reaction would be swift and furious. Well, you canât have it both ways. So kindly stop with the negative male stereotyping.
Nelly55 over 15 years ago
for BlitzMcD and all others who think the âearly daysâ have somehow changedâŠ..
todayâs strip IS an original from the 1970âs. Iâve been a longtime fan and sent this one to my mom (now decieased) as a joke to remind her of the good old days traveling with dad.
itâs not rocket science to be able to see the differences between the original strips and the ârefreshedâ ones
Comic-Nut over 15 years ago
I remember using comic books, and my imagination about where our travels would take us. I loved travelling with my parents as a kid. I met so many other kids from all around Canada and the USA.
pibfan868 over 15 years ago
Anyone else notice that Elly is using one arm over the seat back to attempt to entertain the baby? She IS already doing what she can from the front seat, which is not very relaxing. However, I donât see this as particularly bitter, sheâs just giving John a âhello, canât you see that I am?â lookâŠ.and sheâs not yelling at anyone either. I think she wants to give her arm a breakâthatâs a very awkward position!
OakDragon over 15 years ago
Itâs interesting how every week weâll have a few comments stating that the humor or relationships portrayed in a given strip are somehow out of date, or âno longer funny.â
Does the Liâl Abner strip get the same response?
Perhaps it would help if the strips showed the original publication date, like on Lynnâs own site.
gab4x4 over 15 years ago
The trick to road trips with kids is to keep them up all day running around (with one of the parents up too mind you and the other sleeping as best as they can) then pile into the car around 8 oâclock or 9 pm and drive. This is how my family did it, we didnât wake up until we were almost were we needed to be (unless we were going to the happiest place on earth, lol). on the plus side, you got two sleeps at the same motel so you save some money too :D
Templo S.U.D. over 15 years ago
Câmon, John! Even mothers like Elly need to take a break from amusing the kids when on a road trip!
summerdog86 over 15 years ago
OakDragon, where on Lynnâs site does it give the original dates of daily strips? This is how I take your meaning, and I havenât found it at FBORFW.
gab4x4! Thatâs what MY family did for long car trips, too, when I was a pup!
As far as the assumed male or female bashing goesâŠ.the strip is supposed to be funnyâŠ.it wouldnât be without the exaggerated style that goes on. Lynnâs just funâin you.
Wildmustang1262 over 15 years ago
My brothers, sisters and I used to take long trips for the vacations, we brought the travel games, reading books or comic books and others to keep us busy instead of being a boredom on long trip. Nowadays there have TV, DVD in the SUV or so. It is so lucky than what we had in our times. Sigh!
fireflyez over 15 years ago
Agree in general w/Max and Blitz, the strip not funny or poignant anymore. Being a woman, I was a bit more tuned in to the stereotypical old-fashioned woman roles illustrated in the strip since it started over the male roles, but now I notice both and I get that little âtwingeâ when I read it. I sense an undercurrent of hostility from Lynne re: relating to her historical circumstances, but I feel that it undermines the potential of the strip. Some things are best left in the past, and this also learned from my own personal experiences, hostility over othersâ behavior is one of them, and apparently now old comics are too.
RinaFarina over 15 years ago
When we went on long car trips, we played the licence plate game, looking for new and interesting provinces or states that we had not seen before. Plates from Alaska or the Northwest Territories were extra-special - you couldnât expect to see them more than once in your lifetime.
Since everybody is saying what annoys them about this strip, what annoys me (and I know thatâs supposed to be the whole point of the joke) is that sheâs volunteering to drive, which he takes literally, instead of saying âI need a break from amusing the kids - I want to drive for a while.â
Oh well. I donât usually let comic strips get to me.
myhaircut over 15 years ago
Burgundy2, she actually lives near North Bay, not Thunder Bay. Right in the middle of the provinceâs best camping, an hour and a half from Algonquin Park and less than an hour from all kinds of other great camping.
hekko Premium Member over 15 years ago
RinaFarina, I absolutely agree! Elly should ask for what she wants, not volunteer.
margueritem over 15 years ago
I never saw a lot of the original strips. Was John portrayed as such a buffoon back then?
4deerinmyyard over 15 years ago
Rina: Good point; Elly should be more direct about stating the actual nature of the problem. On the other hand, thereâs no doubt that John GETS the actual nature of the problem, and is hoping Elly will continue to be too unassertive to lay it on the table. Heâs playing the game by her rules, but heâs definitely playing the game.
Radical-Knight over 15 years ago
beep-beep-beep! OK, back the trucks up over here and over there. set up a HAZMAT containment tent over the infestation verify secure attachment and comence fumigation of obnoxious, rude, insulting varmints. (s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s)
OK people, lets move along. Nothing to see here.
The Duke 1 over 15 years ago
Oh, puleeez! How hard can it be? Just load the kids up with Valium before you hit the road! See? PROBLEM SOLVED!!
lectrice over 15 years ago
Oh please. We have the right to criticize a comic that we no longer find funny. Thereâs no need to bring out the Zyklon-B.
I agree with with a lot of people who seem to have come out of the woodwork today to say this. The strip is outdated, not funny, and is mean-spirited pretty often. Iâve noticed that a lot of the comments on here tend to be advice towards the comic characters on how to fix the âfunnyâsituation theyâve gotten themselves into. The the comments go off on an tangent where people talk about their own memories that are related to the subject matter, which I do enjoy since theyâre often funnier. I never see any laughter or anticipation for tomorrowâs strip.
Yes, I know these are mostly repeats with some new strips thrown in once in a while, but theyâre so old that they might as well be new again since most of us have never seen them before. SoâŠwe judge them with todayâs attitude. A timeless classic should be just that, timeless. Even if the clothes and the language are different, the basic humanity of the characters should come through. Instead we get to see Elly hating being a housewife, hating being a mother, hating everything about her life and suffering away without making any real changes. Thatâs not a comic strip! Thatâs a therapistâs strip!