Pat Oliphant for July 03, 2012

Arizonans DO, the Cartoonist’s prejudices (against people in “Flyover Country”) do NOT!

Oliphant lives in NM. You’d think he would have a better understanding of the situation that prompted the Arizona laws, even if he disagreed with them. Much as I love Oliphant for his willingness to take on political sacred cows (except Mr. Obama), a concern for facts never seems to inhibit him.

I was standin’ on a corner in Winslow Arizona,Such a fine sight to see.There’s a girl, my Lord, in a tinted-window FordSlowin’ down to take a look at me.“Show me your papers, and keep your hands where I can see ’em,” she said. I couldn’t figure out how to do both at the same time, though, so when I reached into my jacket for my wallet she shot me. Love hurts.

If people in AZ wanted to reduce illegal immigration, they would prosecute businesses who hire them.

Too simple a concept? Too effective? No payoff for those in power?

Yes, indeed. And the voters keep making poor choices, the recent batch noted above aren’t the first.

As far as the sheer style of the drawing is concerned, this one is one of Oliphant’s best in a while. You can find all kinds of intriguing little details in there.

An old Jules Fieffer cartoon from the 1960s:

Panel 1. Talking head, earnest: “All over the world, incompetents and kooks attain power through force and violence.”

Panel 2. Talking head, smug: “This can’t happen in the United States …”

Panel 3. Talking head, sour: “We elect them.”

tigger, once again, “stop” or “detain” is sufficient under the Arizona law to demand “papers” or proof of citizenship, it does NOT require incarceration or booking!!

If not for “snowbirds” the Arizona economy would now crash, as “KIng Copper” died some time ago. Migrating MICHIGANDERS (especially) and others have nearly destroyed the state in the last 40 years. They are NOT “westerners”, and their bigotry proves it. They are NOT done with their destruction, and aren’t likely to stop, and Brewer is their “bearer”.

During the past 10 years Arizonans have not demonstrated that they are possessed of any.

People are staying out of Arizona as if it was a deadly virus! THe deluded people in Arizona may have an illness!The way they have gotten may cause a massive die-off of collective closed minds!

The only place in the media that I enjoy is sports and the comics? Why is all the BS and indifference by the main stream media tolerated. Progressive morals and ideals seem alive and well in many movies but most other places it’s scant slanted misrepresented lied about or engnored.

Some of us do. The rest vote Republican.

Liar!!! In Arizona you can be asked for your papers if you are stopped for reasonable cause of having committed any other crime.

Make a lane change without signaling – you can be stopped and asked to show your papers. No arrest necessary, they don’t even have to bother writing a ticket for the improper lane change.

http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/27/fast-and-furious-truth/?iid=SF_F_River

Apparently it’s AZ gun laws that make it legal for people to buy tons of assault rifles and resell them to Mexican cartels. Hard to tell with the Fast and Furious “scandal” if the NRA is objecting to the guns getting to Mexico (which the ATF didn’t have the authority to stop) or to the ATF trying to follow the flow at all?

Gosh Tigger, will YOU please QUIT LYING about this? You do it again and again. According to the SC ruling, people CAN be required to prove their immigration status during a routine traffic stop. They DON’T have to be arrested and booked. All it takes is “reasonable suspicion” on the part of the officer.

Here is an actual quote from a news site:

“Even though the Supreme Court rejected most of Arizona’s immigration law, the Justices did uphold a major part of it. They are allowing law enforcement officials to ask for immigration papers during traffic stops.”

http://www.ktvn.com/story/18877143/locals-react-to-supreme-court-decision-on-arizona-immigration-law

Still, many Repubs persist in claiming that it won’t happen. The SC just said that was perfectly ok, and many folks agree that if there’s reasonable suspicion, immigration status should be checked.

On a side note, the article also points out that many think there should be federal level immigration reform, not a motley assortment of state laws.

AZ used to be such a nice place to visit, especially in winter and early spring. Used to go there for bird watching. Now the good bird watching areas are lousy with unencumbered “free market”- based housing development. Plus, they have the Wicked Witch of the West for Guv. Won’t be spending my tourist dollars there for a while.

“Serious question here…”I’m disappointed in you. Haven’t you heard of Wikipedia? There is no Lieutenant Governor in Arizona, she was Secretary of State — explaining how she could be from a different party. And yes, she won the election in 2010.

This cartoon is pretty funny and well drawn, but people in Arizona aren’t like that. I lived there for about 30 years (hard to believe when I think about it). In-migration from the Middle West and Southern California since the late 1960’s has given it a strange character and there are few cowboys left. The majority of migrants (U.S. citizens from other states) are upper-middle class whites. I think the motivation to move to AZ somehow selects for certain biases. The cartoon might have been more accurate if drawn at the 19th hole at the local country club.

… but Arizonans aren’t this mean spirited either. I often wonder how some intelligent and mostly well intended people can be so misguided. The State has been run by a Republican Legislature since the term Dixiecrat lost its meaning. They pass one “pro-business” “pro-growth” law after another. And still they can’t afford to pay for decent schools… except in towns run by Mormons.

The saddest part is the originator of the bill owns the company that houses the illegal immigrants before they are shipped back.More $$$ for him.

Nothing personal. It’s just business.

Looks like Oliphant has nailed it with this ’toon.

Years ago in Yellowstone, we had a kid from Chicago, who “had an outfit” and wanted to be called “Tex”. We put him on a bucking horse one night, he stayed on less than 1.2 seconds, and the next day he had a new “outfit” and his name was “George”.

The ’toon, as earlier indicated makes me think of those now calling themselves, “Arizonans”. (Yes, I have lived a number of years in that “old” Arizona.)

Looks like AZ is gonna have a hard time filling those construction jobs with cheap labor.

I suppose by now you’ve all heard how the AZ police arrested and detained a 96 year old man on the way to his birthday party. He was the fromer governor. But at least his name was Castro.

I hadn’t heard, but looked it up. It was actually U.S. Boarder Patrol who didn’t exactly cover themselves with… well what ever.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/05/former-arizona-governor-raul-castro-detained-border-checkpoint_n_1652020.html

Oh, I forgot to say, “so I’m sure it’s Obama’s fault”. (end sarcasm not, BTW aimed at walruscarver)

maybe az should secede no?

The guy asking for papers must be a cartoonist!Stay back east where you belong, PLEASE!What the h***is this fool doing in AZ anyway?Must be on his way to California or New Mexico. This strip doesn’t need a comment.