Luann by Greg Evans and Karen Evans for June 17, 2013

Time to let your daughter grow up, Frank.

It was worth a shot, Luann. Even though there was never a shot to begin with.

ATTA-BOY, Frank!!!

Its about DAMN Time the REAL “Dad” in YOU Showed Up!

There’ll be NONE of that “Hanky – Panky with Mr. Lanky” while Frank DeGroot Pays the Mortgage! NO Siree!!!

BRAVO!

Here, I’ll HOLD the Door open while You Throw Mr. Perfect OUT.

What’s to eat? Got my eatin’ cutters ready…

Bag by the door… good reminder, Frank…

Hey! Frank does have eyes.

Brought to you, by….Bird’s Eye…. with several lines of See Food…and by… Midnight Brand Oils……. we make sure no beds are “burning”…

Ok Luann, time for action! When your absence will not be missed go pull the rotors out of the car’s distributors. Or pull the ignition system fuses.^^Won’t work, Frank has Toni on speedial

It would be ideal, for Quill’s short stay, andEase the pain of coming trial with Tiffany &her plan for evil.This could be Luann’s one defense, and it’sa good one: her family.P.S.The Deg roots have housed others and Luann’s virginityremained intact, I.e. “T.J.”Remember: Luann is not a whore, unlikeTiffany, others. She is decent, and a familygirl; she has had good family raising, withvalues.

Seriously Frank? The boy flew 2000+ miles, is barely in the house, and you’re ready for him to do a dine and dash? Where is that supposed great hospitality the country claims to have? I mean, I’m 30 years old, but at 17, my dad would never have been so rude. Good thing Quill is not that sensitive…or observant, it seems.However, I do see one plus to getting to drama camp that much quicker. Can’t wait to see the slow, spiraling descent and crash awaiting Miss Chamber of Horrors.

You know what? Even better if he (Quill)stays with the Degroots,; when he very possiblycomes up missing, he will be missed, quickly. Now we have somebody in the immediate Vicinity to sound the alarm, ah hah!

Yeah! This could thwart Tiff’s plans. :)

Oooooooo … Frank IS nervous … seriously, Frank, chill …

Speaking of home cooked, I keep thinking about what Nancy’s making… is it spaghetti? is it juicy meatloaf with stuffing? Whatever it is, it’s making me hungry again…. (XD)

Luann’s parents behaviour has certainly changed from the times Luann was allowed to have Quill in her room….or when they were alone together recording their song.

It appears that Luann’s parents planned their strategy in dealing with Quill’s visit ahead of time. Hmmmmm..they must realize that if Luann and Quill want to get together they would most certainly find a location to do so. It would be better to have them in the house where they could keep an eye on them. Am sure Tiffany’s parents are not sweating about this visit from Quill. Of course, they probably don’t care what Tiff does.

IMHO, it’s time for that visit to the family doctor. When parents reach the stage where they are worried sick about everything their 17 year old daughter is doing, they should be proactive and help their daughter take precautions …just in case.

Quill is a nice guy but he lives 2000+ miles away and Luann would be left to face the music herself. Too many girls face this situation alone because the parents don’t want to be seen as condoning their relationships. Best to discuss this issue together before an innocent child becomes part of the problem.

I agree with kfccanada, and I hope the Evanses decide to let Frank and Nancy handle this with wisdom and maturity, not just go for a cheap and easy punch line appropriate for two-dimensional characters.

I’m not, however, holding my breath.

“with vegemite on the side.”^I figured if anything, he’could be GLAD to be going to a country where he could get a break from what he was leaving behind (in particular, the “Veg”…lol!)

I guess there will be discussion today, where the term “with wisdom and maturity” will be bandied about, and where it could mean ‘to do something that’s more “enlightened”, or “more with it” ‘, as opposed to the “time honored” stance of "teaching them to just say no until they say ’I do’ first", which to some is viewed as “old fashioned” and somehow “evil”, which Frank and Nancy are a little more in line with (As evidenced by their staunch objection to B&T living together)….==Lu is a teen, and the emotional maturity factor does seem to come into play, as the case with all teens, even the ones who seem to be the “responsible” type… Luann has shown herself to not want to be known as the type to do certain things with Quill via phone or computer, as Tiff once tried to accuse her of and slander her with… so, if she wouldn’t do it electronically, it could be reasoned that she wouldn’t want to go that far in person, as well… and the fact that there’s a temptation to do so, is the reason that Nancy and Frank are “hip” to nipping that in the bud…==And they could worry about what could happen outside of their home, but they seem to be the type to keep the lines of communication open, at the very least, and also at least make their views on the matter clear (at least to their kids, outside of our 3d view)….

I never did understand why Luann got so enraged with Tiffany over the ‘sick internet flirting’ comment. (2/21/13). Tiff said it was ‘sick’, but Luann was rubbing Tiff’s face in it with her Boomerang pendant, did she expect anything else? Tiff also described it as ‘Internet Flirting’. Well, Quill and Luann were on the internet. Here’s the part I don’t get, why is ‘flirting’ a bad thing? Shouldn’t Luann be proud and pleased that her relationship with Quill is lovey-dovey? To me it was a typical Luann/Tiffany skirmish, and Luann detonating once she got home seemed like big blow up over nothing. So I wouldn’t say Tiff ‘slandered’ Luann, ‘Sick’ (opinion), ‘Internet’ (Fact), ‘Flirting’ (Fact, if kissing your monitor and talking lovingly counts). Tiff goes on to say ‘All I’m saying is (essentially “one thing leads to another”, and is actually warning Luann against a slippery slope, sadly, one it sounds like Tiff herself belly flopped down before…

Is Tiff perfect? Nooo way! Is she willing to lie? Oh yes! Just not sure she did this time…and with all the nasty things she’s really done, she needs as much of a break as possible:)

That’s just my take on what happened. Obviously Mr. Evans and Luann don’t agree, so…. oh well:)

Bait grab: Donny, love your observations. Greg and I shared our secret drug recipes at the recent Reuben Awards weekend.

It would be a cold day before I’d let my HS daughter or son have sex in my house before they’re married.What they do else where …

Plenty of teens make it through their high school years without sex. Heck some of us make it all the way till marriage. Just because a kid is 17 doesn’t mean they are ready for sex. Even if they think they are.

What surprises me is that this subject is only getting discussed now.

He’s too smart to appear disappointed about sleeping arrangements in front of Lu’s parents.

I hate to break it to you, but not every 17-year-old is in a rush to have sex. Some of us actually were taught to wait until after marriage out of respect for both ourselves and our significant others, and guess what? We did! Just because you threw up your hands and said “Whatever — just don’t get pregnant or an STD,” that doesn’t mean that everyone’s parents did.

Subtle Frank, real subtle.

Hey Luann. Take it easy. Slow down. Mom and Dad are going to stop you at every turn.

Hey Luann. Take it easy. Slow down. Mom and Dad are going to stop you at every turn.

That’s what I was thinking. If this is only a stop for dinner on the way to camp, leave the bag in the trunk.

He’s a gentleman. Why would he be upset? He wasn’t expecting to stay with Luann.

Dads that subtle are why daughters elope.

It is refreshing to see parents, and particularly a father, still setting House Rules. If Luann were to have Quill sleeping just a thin wall away from her, she might even as a Good Girl do something she’d regret. Besides, the DeGroots don’t “owe” Quill anything beyond a welcome to the USA, a free meal, and a free trip to the Drama Camp that he is here to attend….

The morning after pill is good for 12 years old & older. I wonder if Obama would think it is OK for his 12 year old daughter to use it since he’s the one that signed off on it.

Way to nip it in the bud Frank!

If there was a chance he would stay with them, it would already have been settled. His parents paid for a dorm, it’s what he’s expecting. I suppose Tiff will be there too, not that she needs to be.

tell us more, don’t be shy, don’t hold back

Don’t always look and sound so desperate. You got him. Now keep him

So the choice would seem to be let Quill stay at the DeGroot residence where Frank could provide some oversight, or let Quill sleep away where, if Luann goes to visit, there will be less supervision?

You know, I am no father, but after seeing some of the comments listed here I can see that this is a hot topic. I applaud how subtle the dad was here. Making a firm statement yet no yelling (at least not yet). Great stand for fathers everywhere who still stand up for family values.

@IamJayBluE—- Okay, I can see you and Luann getting that impression. Tiffany was obviously insinuating something negative, we will just disagree on what. For me, Tiff doesn’t mention internet lewdness until after she makes the disclaimer ‘Fine, whatev. I’m just saying be careful. It starts with (flirting)…’ which she did accuse Luann of, and then goes on to describe a raunchy escalation that can follow such flirting. But it’s just the ‘sick flirting’ she actually accused Luann of as far as I can see. Ah well, I could easily be wrong about this, I think Luann’s reaction showed that Mr. Evans intended Tiff’s barbs to have a wicked meaning as you put forth.

Of course Quill would stay in the dorm at Drama Camp. They probably have activities all day long and no one wants to drive him back and forth every day. I’ll bet Luann’s parents had some part in her not getting into the camp. They wanted to keep them apart somewhat. They didn’t want Quill and Luann together so much at the camp.

I know Tiffany is due for some ‘come-uppance’ in this whole ‘Drama Camp’ thing. But unless Quill for some inexplicable reason decides suddenly that he like Tiffany too, how can Tiffany be anything more than a minor nuisance to the love birds Quill and Luann? I’ve been re-reading the earlier Quill strips, and he really seemed totally disinterested in Tiffany even before Luann got a hold of him, and his opinion of Tiff certainly hasn’t improved since then. I know Mr. Evans will make a good story out of this. The question is, how?

That’s a good question! I was just thinking it was gents’ quarters on one side, ladies’ on the other… so used to thinking in terms of “cabins”… could be a big difference, with dorms…. unless they’ve got rooms on one side of it and the other for both, in each particular building, with a shared area in between…

Why on earth are you still reading this comic if you hate the main character so much? There are millions of other comix online.

!!!! Phelps?!!! You have a very creative imagination…..

Phelps? You really have an active imagination.

@IamJayBluE—- ….! Wow, Tiff is rubbing off on me, it never occurred to me that she might not be at the center of the Drama Camp storyline! I like your Quill and Luann centered ‘trust’ scenario very much. It’d be ironic if Tiff did more damage to their relationship without doing anything due to Luann’s own insecurities and fears….

@argybargy2—- Well, I will bow to the majority in this case. I might be right technically about the exact words Tiff did or did not say, then again I could be wrong. But obviously other readers saw what Tiffany was getting at. What’s more, Luann has had 25 years of tangling with Tiff, she probably knows how Tiff meant it better than I do, ha ha:)

Responding to your posts is kind of like trying to pull up thorny weeds without gloves… ==It is difficult to address any part of your posts, that could even seem to be part of a valid discussion, without having to validate the…. other parts…. so, I won’t….==This is brought to you, by… ME….

please go away

I think at this point radams is just posting to people angry. It may be time to ignor radams.

“Gee, thanks Mrs. D. But the camp dorms don’t open until next week. Could you be so kind as to direct me to a motel where I could stay until then?”*[The mother in Nancy kicks in] “You, a young boy, alone in a motel?!?! Oh, Brad’s old room is available.”*(Not that I’m competing with the big kids (Levi, NightGaunt, DW), but I think this is my 500th POST! Time for coffee & ice cream!)

Sisterdame, I like KFC’s idea better— talk with her about her values and choices, take her to the doctor so she can get more info and any protection she thinks she might need. Even good condoms work only 80% of the time in preventing pregnancy & STDs, and 0% of the time in preventing remorse.

Thanks!

“After he goes to bed, Frank and Nancy switch rooms with Luann,”^Remember how they reacted when they actually THOUGHT they heard him in there, though it was just them on Skype? Frank ran some red lights on that one… (XD) And even then Frank wanted to put the kaibosh on the “late night electronic chats”…. I guess that’s the one benefit to his CIA experience…they might as well rename their street “Watergate Rd”… Or “Belichick Rd.” (Sorry… it was just right there)… but then we’re gonna start hearing that whole other current events discussion, now….

" They have to rely on their daughter’s morals and upbringing."

Frankly, needing any other method means you have failed at that one.

“… in this case, CIA would be “Caught In Action” :)”^Yeah, that one’s good (lol!) !!! Like Sara said, there’s already all that going on….. leave that stuff to the “Talking Heads”…and not the ones with all the hits!!!

Oh come on Mom and Dad. This is a good kid. Let him use Brad’s empty room for one or two nights.

Quite frankly, if I were Luann, I’d be more frustrated with her dad in the car than in this scene. Here, he’s engaging in typical fatherly behavior, which is to be expected. But when he’s in the car with Luann at the wheel, his back seat driving would drive me crazy enough to open the passenger door and kick him out at 40 MPH!!

Recent research has shown that long term planning abilities do not develop fully in humans till the mid-twenties.

“while I can’t follow some of your posts because they are poorly written you do make some good comments. "^K… right there, you just hypocritical-ized yourself into invalidation… it’s either one or the other… you must have taken the “Hypocritical Oath”….

“you are the house leader of posts currently”^According to your profile bio, this would mean that you would be jealous of me… Didn’t mean any inconvenience… I have no interest in how many posts… not of my own, not of any others… I like to read people’s posts, many or few… not count them all…

" our most 24/7 author- "^Surely you must be kidding!!!! You were among the first today, and are still doing it now!!!! If my schedule allows me to check in periodically…… SO WHAT?? (sorry for the bold, but I cant put it any plainer than that)… So many have done so… I’m not the first, I’m not the last.. ===NOT that I have to qualify myself, but I do have goofball comments, use pop culture references, hidden jokes (using puns among other things) BUT also try to engage in the thoughtful discussions as well… not everyone agrees with me, nor I with everyone… some agree with me, and I too agree with some… but you yourself have said it… Read, don’t read…… yep… those be the choices…

“I’ll reach another landmark soon and lets see what he does when I mention it to him.”^The irony is that on that day, words won’t be able to describe the result….

I don’t view sex as being as inherently immoral as some posters here do. But yes, she was trying to have sex with him. No, she had not thought it through. No, they were not, in any way, ready. It would have been regretted, almost as much as they regret waiting until it was too late to begin their romance.

Said it before, I’ll say it again and again and AGAIN!When Teens decide they are going to, they ARE Going to, and ANYONE who sticks their head in the sand and tries to deny it happens is an IDIOT!And if that idiot is supposed to be a responsible PARENT, they are GUILTY of NOT TAKING CARE of their child if they DON’T prepare that teen for the possible results, including TEACHING THEM the DANGERS of unprotected sex.And then making sure they ARE protected, IN ADVANCE, FIRST TIME, EVERY TIME, ALL THE TIME, until they no longer need to be protected.At least, until they no longer need be protected by Mom & Dad.ANYTHING LESS is Irresponsible parenting and Child Abuse.

“and now my sudden string has to end so I can shop, eat and if I still have time do something other than answer back to the same 4 posters”^You said that HOURS ago… and yet, HERE you are… ==And your numbers, like those skewed news casts, don’t paint the WHOLE picture… while Luann is my favorite here on GoComics, and has been my favorite since it’s inception, period, my posts are found on a few other strips… I have WIDE AND VARIED interests, but obviously Luann gets the bulk of them, since the Evanses have garnered this fan base with their intriguing work which gets us all to discuss, and even their Facebook, etc… I only venture to guess that all yours are here…===Your “exposing” whatever numbers shows YOUR envy or what have you…. NOT MINE…Maybe you do this to increase your “counts”, but I don’t want to assist you…

I don’t think the amount of time spent on this forum is an indication of good or bad posting habits. Due to choice and/or life’s circumstances, some of us have more time than others. Some of us sadly have too much time on our hands. But if the posts are sound, I think they are none the worse for being one of many. So God bless the 24/7 crowd, and those that just drop in for a casual chat about our favorite strip:)

Besides, hanging out on the forum means plenty of time to read the archives between postings. I found out some wonderful things today:

Tiffany has never actually had a boyfriend.It wasn’t Tiffany who came up with the name Sheraton St. Louis, it was Crystal (the smart one:) )Luann was perfectly willing to dress up as ‘Zeye’ in the skimpy costume, as Tiffany was later.I found my favorite strip of Tiff again, the one that made me fall for her. It’s right after the Eyes of Zeye movie let’s out and everyone is in pain and nausea from it. And there, sitting alone behind her little autograph table is poor little Tiff. That one made me think ‘This person needs a friend badly’, ha ha!

@IamJayBluE – Hi JayBluE! Well, taking Luann at her word, then one should assume that Tiffany did indeed suggest that Luann was doing something perverted. A very weak point in my argument I see now was dismissing the fact that Tiffany repeatedly used the word ‘Sick’ to describe the flirting. Apparently you, Luann, and most of the other posters here know what is being implied by Tiff, and it’s not unreasonable to link ‘sick’ with the ‘sexting’ scenario Tiff describes in the strip. I admit I am splitting hairs to defend Tiff here. It’s tough being a Tiffany fan. But I’m learning a lot:) The first stage I went through was denial (maybe I’m doing a bit of that today too). When the slander story took place I refused to believe Tiffany might have had a sexy video on the internet. I got mad because if it created the kind of scandal Tiff was describing, where she would be branded ‘internet sleaze’ for all time, why is there no indication of this in the comic? Since then I have decided that when Tiff is bad, I should just ‘love the sinner not the sin’. The second thing I learned is I don’t have to tear down other characters to justify Tiff. I used to do that a lot here, but I have realized Tiff is Tiff, Luann can be a Saint, Luann can be the Devil, Luann can just be the girl next door trying to get by, and Tiff will still be Tiff… Maybe one day I will learn that this is just a comic strip. But what fun is that? Ha ha! I find it much more interesting to have an emotional investment in the characters and stories, and to be a Otaku for Tiffany Farrell:) Punting around ideas about her with you guys is fun!

Ann is jerk. TJ is a jerk. Ann is a comparatively incompetent jerk, but if she had his skills she’d be at least as bad.

O_o there are MORE that you don’t like?! SMH

“while Ann is indeed bad, she is Mother Teresa in comparison to TJ.”^When I first saw Ann, I saw a pretty lake, but then I didn’t know that there was “a lot of stuff dumped into that body of water”… and seeing TJ and Ann squaring off? It’s like when the Terminator suddenly switched allegiances in his movie, and then go toe to toe with the Predator…

Again, not because she’s above it, but because she’s not smart enough. Imagine for a moment that she had succeeded in getting Toni out of the way. She gets Brad completely under her control. Do you think she doesn’t trick him into worse than that? I think she tries, but is not successful, because she is just not smart enough, not sneaky enough. She’s a pale imitation, but without any of the actual fun.

Really Luann!!! Slow down…

MJ:Which death would you prefer:^^Go with the crocodile, no need to make him suffer….. And Quill shouldn’t suffer too much either

Delta is a favorite of mine, but I lack enough passion to worry about her when she is not present. I keep trying to match her with men who seem unlikely, but would be interesting complement to her.

Boy, Frank is about as subtle as a pneumatic drill.

Slow down, Luann .. yo’ daddy ain’t no fool!!

tell us more, please, don’t be so shy, let us all know your wisdom