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madkanga, this is not a test. if it had been a testâŠâŠâŠâŠ.
God, imiss the cold war. talking about cold warâŠ..nice cave.
electric and all the amenities
Sounds like a typical Communist to me. Hey, Cuba and North Korea, howâs that From-Each-According-to-his-Abilities thing working out for ya?
(I recently saw that the North Korean government has reduced the minimum height requirement for conscripts into their army⊠from 4â11â to 4â2â. Nationwide starvation will do that to you.)
Also- âSeemed like a good idea at the time!â Of course, you get the temperature moderation of being underground; near-constant 67oF or so. And yeah, that cave has been a set just recently for an art project.
And ainât it nice the Koreans feel the need to conscript; we just give âem an alternative to poverty and unemployment (without health care, âunemployment insuranceâ, etc.)
I donât think heâs talking about communism, I think heâs talking about supply-side economics. Itâs caused recessions and sky-high deficits every time itâs been tried, but conservatives are full of excuses for why thatâs really liberalsâ fault.
Seeing N Koreaâs little sqirt leader next to big olâ Bill Clinton last year was pretty funny. Little dude actually claims to get 2 or 3 holes in one everytime he golfs.
A major problem with trickle-down economics is that the rich waste their riches on luxury items, including drugsâŠ
Then again, if poor folks got more money, a good-sized chunk of it would get wasted on necessities, such as food, clothing, shelter, alcohol, tobacco and other drugsâŠ
In terms of overall efficiency (the greatest good to the greatest number), my guess is that the poor spend more wisely than the rich - being cold and hungry kinda does that to youâŠ
You mean you didnât live within your means, didnât diversify your retirement portfolio, didnât save enough to live for six months, didnât pay down the mortgage, didnât save for your childrenâs college, and didnât drive the same sensible car for 8-10 years.? What were you doing during the good years? Werenât listening to those economists.
â⊠and the working man gets shafted,â
â⊠itâs the other way around.â
But what ever happened to selling one of your cows and buying a bull? That beats owning nothing and getting sour milk any day. For all the problems of capitalism, it doesnât deserve to be put on the same level as socialism or communism.
Quoted exactly, NON. Lew: I drive a 1998 LeSabre. I lost the bulk of my IRA when the ENTIRE diversified economy belched, lost my job of 31 years while younger guys earning less kept the same kind of jobs at my work and I had not union to defend my rights, spent a lot of my income putting my kids through schooling and that 6 months saved income, a year after my lay off, doesnât look all that good. Iâve been living within my means for the last 15 years since the boss froze our wages and no one in a suit got theirs frozen. Got any more suggestions, Mr. Economist? The âtradition wisdomâ gets chewed up when the Rich decide they want it all and the heck with the country.
@freeholder1 Sadly your story can be applied to too many people in our society. I can remember when I was middle class but that was a long time ago. If there are bones and bottles on the floor, then he is still doing OK. She needs to do a little housecleaning and give encouragement to her man.
Itâs hardly any easier for âyounger guysâ who still have jobs. I see my younger coworkers with frozen wages, no bonuses or raises, and the dreaded MUO (mandatory unpaid overtime) being applied. The companies are literally squeezing blood from stones where I work. Were it not for the fact Iâm the only one who can make sense out of the absolute mess that management has made of our computer systems Iâd be in the same boat; keeping up with the various certifications in computers and systems engineering cost me a lot up front, but itâs paying off big time now. That goes for any profession where they offer training in new techniques.
@Justice22 I agree. At least they have food, clothing, and shelter. So itâs a hole in the (stone) wall. I lived like that for most of my life and it kept me dry, warm, and safe. Stop being so picky, lady. Or would living on the streets be more to your liking?
Justice and HighPriest, wait, wait, wait⊠The economy is faltering because she hasnât swept the floor and given âher manâ a foot rub?
bleeep, so this whole economic fiasco is MY fault for failing to be a perfect woman ⊠I apologize to you all!
I think you guys are missing the actual point of this strip; your reaction is a bit too âmicroâ when the humble setting, I believe, is merely part of the way Wiley is trying to point out the âmacroâ issue. tee hee
No, Michelle99, Iâm not saying itâs her fault; Iâm being literal about the strip. A cave isnât much, but itâs better than nothingâwhich is what too many people have. Besides, as Wiley would say, âItâs a CARTOON!â Iâm missing the main point deliberately.
Economists have successfully predicted eight of the last five recessions.
A student was back visiting his econ professor once, several years after graduating. As he talked, he noticed the professor was working on the final for the same class the student had taken years before. When he asked if he could look it over and see how much had changed, the professor agreed. To his surprise, the test had several questions he remembered struggling with. He pointed this out to the professor, who shrugged and said, âI give the class the same questions every year.â
âBut donât you realize by now that every student has a copy of the test and knows exactly what you will ask?â
âAh, but what you donât realize is that in Economics, we change the answers every year!
âSomeone find me a one-handed economist!â Harry Truman
An economist is someone who can analyze a successful business plan and prove to you why it will not work.
Fair enough, HighPriest. :) I was making a bit of a joke myself and I do agree having a roof over your head, even a stone one, ainât such a bad thing.
Iâve just been noticing a lot of women bashing in some comments recently, especially relating to Victoria. Todayâs strip could have just as easily been two guys in a bar having this same conversation. The cave setting just brings it home (tee hee again) a bit more and unless you want this to be a cave in Vermont (oh look, another can of worms opened), itâs gonna be a man and woman in this cave.
Wileyâs one of my all time favorite cartoonists and yeah itâs just a cartoon, but can you deny he wants his readers to THINK and not just react?
Thanks to all for great comments. By the way, I have seen European âSocialismâ and also North Korean and Chinese Communism and there is a big difference. Give me a bit of socialism any day.
A highly respected economist once told me the definition of economist: someone who has no idea what theyâre talking about, and makes you feel that itâs your fault.
trickle down, just the newest form of feudalism. Riches trickle down from the Kings to Barons and Earls, leaving most people to play the part of serf. When the conservatives speak of what America should be, It sounds like their dream state is Dubai, where a few live like sultans, while workers get housed like cattle
kreole almost 15 years ago
The bones and bottle on the cave floor provides a good summary of this perfectly sound economic theory.
palos almost 15 years ago
The key word is the last word â âwasâ, not âisâ.
madKanga almost 15 years ago
What happened was not a fair test!
wicky almost 15 years ago
All they do is harp and complain.
grapfhics almost 15 years ago
living beyond justifiable means, no end in sight. howâs that for theory. no wait, thatâs a metaphorically twisted aphorism.
ronaldmundy almost 15 years ago
madkanga, this is not a test. if it had been a testâŠâŠâŠâŠ. God, imiss the cold war. talking about cold warâŠ..nice cave. electric and all the amenities
pschearer Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Sounds like a typical Communist to me. Hey, Cuba and North Korea, howâs that From-Each-According-to-his-Abilities thing working out for ya?
(I recently saw that the North Korean government has reduced the minimum height requirement for conscripts into their army⊠from 4â11â to 4â2â. Nationwide starvation will do that to you.)
pbarnrob almost 15 years ago
Also- âSeemed like a good idea at the time!â Of course, you get the temperature moderation of being underground; near-constant 67oF or so. And yeah, that cave has been a set just recently for an art project.
And ainât it nice the Koreans feel the need to conscript; we just give âem an alternative to poverty and unemployment (without health care, âunemployment insuranceâ, etc.)
Copperdomebodhi almost 15 years ago
I donât think heâs talking about communism, I think heâs talking about supply-side economics. Itâs caused recessions and sky-high deficits every time itâs been tried, but conservatives are full of excuses for why thatâs really liberalsâ fault.
Potrzebie almost 15 years ago
Arenât they the couple that were living around their car, naked in the woods a few months ago? They are really moving on up!
Varnes almost 15 years ago
Seeing N Koreaâs little sqirt leader next to big olâ Bill Clinton last year was pretty funny. Little dude actually claims to get 2 or 3 holes in one everytime he golfs.
steverinoCT almost 15 years ago
You live in a cave? Luxury! We had to live in a cardboard box, in the middle of the street. Work 25 hours a dayâŠ
chaosed2 almost 15 years ago
I hope theyâve paid their estate tax on that cave
zev.farkas almost 15 years ago
A major problem with trickle-down economics is that the rich waste their riches on luxury items, including drugsâŠ
Then again, if poor folks got more money, a good-sized chunk of it would get wasted on necessities, such as food, clothing, shelter, alcohol, tobacco and other drugsâŠ
In terms of overall efficiency (the greatest good to the greatest number), my guess is that the poor spend more wisely than the rich - being cold and hungry kinda does that to youâŠ
Digital Frog almost 15 years ago
Does he expect her just to cave in like she did when he proposed the plan?
grim509 almost 15 years ago
Yeah, rich waste their money on luxury items. After all, itâs other rich people working in the factories to build those items, right?
puddleglum1066 almost 15 years ago
Communism: where the government owns the corporations, and the working people get shafted.
Capitalism: where the corporations own the government, and the working people get shafted.
donhar almost 15 years ago
Looks like a fine summary of Keynesian economics to me. I suppose our children and theirs will know for sure.
Cackles almost 15 years ago
Puddleglum, I think I love you.
Potrzebie almost 15 years ago
THat was an old joke fromthe 50âs or 60âs: In capitalism, man exploits man, In communism, itâs the other way around!
Remember reading it in a 70âs mad magazine.
zev.farkas almost 15 years ago
Keynes was pretty much on target.
The problem is that the politicians conveniently forget about the part where we pay down all that debt during the boom timesâŠ
lewisbower almost 15 years ago
You mean you didnât live within your means, didnât diversify your retirement portfolio, didnât save enough to live for six months, didnât pay down the mortgage, didnât save for your childrenâs college, and didnât drive the same sensible car for 8-10 years.? What were you doing during the good years? Werenât listening to those economists.
Whatroughbeast almost 15 years ago
@zev.farkas
You are correct sir. Thatâs why the projects are full of rich people.
Wilphart almost 15 years ago
Iâm going to write some of these sayings down:
â⊠and the working man gets shafted,â â⊠itâs the other way around.â
But what ever happened to selling one of your cows and buying a bull? That beats owning nothing and getting sour milk any day. For all the problems of capitalism, it doesnât deserve to be put on the same level as socialism or communism.
freeholder1 almost 15 years ago
Quoted exactly, NON. Lew: I drive a 1998 LeSabre. I lost the bulk of my IRA when the ENTIRE diversified economy belched, lost my job of 31 years while younger guys earning less kept the same kind of jobs at my work and I had not union to defend my rights, spent a lot of my income putting my kids through schooling and that 6 months saved income, a year after my lay off, doesnât look all that good. Iâve been living within my means for the last 15 years since the boss froze our wages and no one in a suit got theirs frozen. Got any more suggestions, Mr. Economist? The âtradition wisdomâ gets chewed up when the Rich decide they want it all and the heck with the country.
ChazNCenTex almost 15 years ago
âEat the Richâ - title of a song but I canât remember the singer/songwriter. Iâll get the butler to Google it.
Several different songs by that name, none of them the one Iâm thinking of.
Justice22 almost 15 years ago
@freeholder1 Sadly your story can be applied to too many people in our society. I can remember when I was middle class but that was a long time ago. If there are bones and bottles on the floor, then he is still doing OK. She needs to do a little housecleaning and give encouragement to her man.
Ernest Lemmingway almost 15 years ago
Itâs hardly any easier for âyounger guysâ who still have jobs. I see my younger coworkers with frozen wages, no bonuses or raises, and the dreaded MUO (mandatory unpaid overtime) being applied. The companies are literally squeezing blood from stones where I work. Were it not for the fact Iâm the only one who can make sense out of the absolute mess that management has made of our computer systems Iâd be in the same boat; keeping up with the various certifications in computers and systems engineering cost me a lot up front, but itâs paying off big time now. That goes for any profession where they offer training in new techniques.
@Justice22 I agree. At least they have food, clothing, and shelter. So itâs a hole in the (stone) wall. I lived like that for most of my life and it kept me dry, warm, and safe. Stop being so picky, lady. Or would living on the streets be more to your liking?
Michelle99 almost 15 years ago
Justice and HighPriest, wait, wait, wait⊠The economy is faltering because she hasnât swept the floor and given âher manâ a foot rub?
bleeep, so this whole economic fiasco is MY fault for failing to be a perfect woman ⊠I apologize to you all!
I think you guys are missing the actual point of this strip; your reaction is a bit too âmicroâ when the humble setting, I believe, is merely part of the way Wiley is trying to point out the âmacroâ issue. tee hee
Ernest Lemmingway almost 15 years ago
No, Michelle99, Iâm not saying itâs her fault; Iâm being literal about the strip. A cave isnât much, but itâs better than nothingâwhich is what too many people have. Besides, as Wiley would say, âItâs a CARTOON!â Iâm missing the main point deliberately.
ronaldmundy almost 15 years ago
copperdome, BINGO! and YEAH!, highpriest.
treered almost 15 years ago
what the (insert group/person name) says to everyone else when it goes wrong⊠and all theories are sound, until you try them outâŠ.
bmonk almost 15 years ago
Letâs see:
Economists have successfully predicted eight of the last five recessions.
A student was back visiting his econ professor once, several years after graduating. As he talked, he noticed the professor was working on the final for the same class the student had taken years before. When he asked if he could look it over and see how much had changed, the professor agreed. To his surprise, the test had several questions he remembered struggling with. He pointed this out to the professor, who shrugged and said, âI give the class the same questions every year.â
âBut donât you realize by now that every student has a copy of the test and knows exactly what you will ask?â
âAh, but what you donât realize is that in Economics, we change the answers every year!
âSomeone find me a one-handed economist!â Harry Truman
An economist is someone who can analyze a successful business plan and prove to you why it will not work.
Michelle99 almost 15 years ago
Fair enough, HighPriest. :) I was making a bit of a joke myself and I do agree having a roof over your head, even a stone one, ainât such a bad thing.
Iâve just been noticing a lot of women bashing in some comments recently, especially relating to Victoria. Todayâs strip could have just as easily been two guys in a bar having this same conversation. The cave setting just brings it home (tee hee again) a bit more and unless you want this to be a cave in Vermont (oh look, another can of worms opened), itâs gonna be a man and woman in this cave.
Wileyâs one of my all time favorite cartoonists and yeah itâs just a cartoon, but can you deny he wants his readers to THINK and not just react?
ccmills almost 15 years ago
hey Wiley ⊠you really provoke comment - well done
celeconecca almost 15 years ago
well - there is an advantage to cave living - no light pollution at night!
Trebor39 almost 15 years ago
But lots of radon gas.
Justice22 almost 15 years ago
Thanks to all for great comments. By the way, I have seen European âSocialismâ and also North Korean and Chinese Communism and there is a big difference. Give me a bit of socialism any day.
Dapperdan61 Premium Member almost 15 years ago
The new Fred & Wilma Flintstone ?
Nebulous Premium Member almost 15 years ago
I once asked 2 economists a question and got 5 mutually incompatible answers.
NoBrandName almost 15 years ago
chasm_b - Eat the Rich by Krokus
The problem with the theory of trickle-down economics is that the rich own all the spongesâŠ
HowieL almost 15 years ago
A highly respected economist once told me the definition of economist: someone who has no idea what theyâre talking about, and makes you feel that itâs your fault.
lindz.coop Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Iâd settle for a teaspoon of empathy and if thatâs socialism, so be it â itâs better than let-them-eat-cake-trickle-down.
cutiepie29 almost 15 years ago
Was FDR a Republican or Democrat? He and his ânew dealâ were an exemplification of this:
â ⊠does it slowly and over time, lulling you into a false sense of securityâŠ..always putting off the inevitable cost.â
Papawa almost 15 years ago
trickle down, just the newest form of feudalism. Riches trickle down from the Kings to Barons and Earls, leaving most people to play the part of serf. When the conservatives speak of what America should be, It sounds like their dream state is Dubai, where a few live like sultans, while workers get housed like cattle