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Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for March 18, 2011
Transcript:
Duke: Overkill! What happened? Overkill: Relax - we got your package out... but weighed so much, the hoist jammed. We had to leave our ground operative behind. Duke: What? I thought you guys never left anyone behind! Overkill: That's the military. We have a different business model. Duke: Okay, but I better not see him on my invoice!
Vista Bill Raley and Comet⢠almost 14 years ago
Opps! The Red Rascal is still in the palace?
Donald Benson Premium Member almost 14 years ago
Have to say, Dukeâs punchline made me laugh
rayannina almost 14 years ago
I suspect Overkillâs intention was to leave him behind. But heâll be sorry when he faces the wrath of SORKH RAZIL!
Or not.
FriscoLou almost 14 years ago
Looks like Berzerkistan just got a new leader.
Chrisnp almost 14 years ago
You may be on to something FriscoLou - Sorkh Razil, Afghani Freedom Fighter frees Berzerkistan of a tyrant!
I bet Duke does not know the operative left behind is his own kin (not that heâd care)
cdhaley almost 14 years ago
By Trudeauâs cartoon logic, Triffbumfartz is now in the capable hands of Zipperâ-who will follow the plan to take their hostage to Zipperâs dorm. Nice Doonesbury symmetry here: Triff lectures at Walden while Sorkh Razil restores order to Berzerkistan.
lewisbower almost 14 years ago
Iâm confused, does this mean France will pledge Red Rascal millions in foreign aid the American taxpayer will end up paying?
Ravenswing almost 14 years ago
Nah, Lewreader. Remember? No Republican chickenhawk appeasers in the White House this time out.
cdward almost 14 years ago
^SueB1863, I think thatâs what Chrisnp was saying. Since Zipper now has the ex-dictator whose name is unpronounceable, he can take him to the dorm. Jeff is on his own in Berzerkistan, and now he must make the best of things. Fortunately for him, he is delusional and, as others have suggested, probably will become the new dictator.
Wildcard24365 almost 14 years ago
^cdward, Wow, this kidâs got talent to move up like that!
TexTech almost 14 years ago
I cannot wait to see the reaction of Rick and Joanie when they discover their son is the new leader of Bezerkistan! That should be a riot.
jrholden1943 almost 14 years ago
I can see the story line now, the Red Rascal is hailed as the savior of Beserkistan (sp), and installed as their new leader.
The President of the US immediately visits and bows in submission to superior intellect.
The American Taxpayer subsequently is left on the hook for billions in aid, which gets funneled directly to Overkill.
No, wait, thatâs real life.
Nemesys almost 14 years ago
I donât think that the package will end up in the dorm.
What Iâm not clear about is why those fighters didnât toast the chopper on sight, but instead showed up to provide escort service in getting the package out.
Then again, in our magical realism Libya scenario, it actually makes a lot of sense when one considers the major players involved.
Dragoncat almost 14 years ago
Now that Overkill is getting his $50 Million reimbursed, he can now afford to face the wrath of the Red Rascalâs mother.
Or not.
William Bednar Premium Member almost 14 years ago
TexTech: âI cannot wait to see the reaction of Rick and Joanie when they discover their son is the new leader of Bezerkistan! That should be a riot.â
Rick will probably say âWell, Jeff finally got a real job!â. Joanne says something like âEhâ and go off on a show shopping trip to the mall.
Chrisnp almost 14 years ago
SueB1863 said, âIâm pretty sure that the ground operative left behind was Jeff Redfern, not Zipper who was on the plane. I donât think Jeffâs related to Duke, or is he? Sometimes I lose track!â
I did loose track! Your are right
DavidGBA almost 14 years ago
His body is paying interest on the 50 million he lost and regained.
cdhaley almost 14 years ago
Trudeauâs magic realism shows us Libya Through-the-Looking-Glass. When Qaddafi heard about the U.N. resolution, he told his Foreign Minister to call off the assault on Benghazi. In Moussa Koussaâs words, itâs
ââstrange and unreasonableâ that the resolution authorized the use of force against the Qaddafi government, âand there are signs that this may indeed take place.â Mr. Koussa called the resolution a violation of Libyan sovereignty as well as of the United Nations charter, and repeated a call for a âfact-finding missionâ to evaluate the situation on the ground.â (NYT)
Maybe the fact-finding mission will explain that Fiery Ball of Death. Or maybe Koussa is Roland Headleyâs alter ego.
When it comes to writing history, Doonesbury and Fox News are two peas in a pod. They both practice New Historicism, where history is not what happens but what gets reported as happening.
drtom01 almost 14 years ago
Of course this just means that Jeff Redfern aka Sorkh Razil will now be the man who freed Berzerkistan from the grips of the tyrant Triffbumfartz.. Jeff has already shown a Forrest Gump like ability to always fall up.
Possum Pete almost 14 years ago
palin drome,
Thereâs a major difference between the two: Oneâs a cartoon! You decide which is which.
Nemesys almost 14 years ago
palin, would you not put a news source whose motto is âAll the News Thatâs Fit to Printâ into that same peapod? All news, and all history, is viewed through lenses, and always has been. Rather than single out a couple sources whom you feel document ânot what happens but what gets reported as happeningâ, it would be much more interesting to see your list of sources - or even individuals - whom you feel do not.
I think the âfiery ball of deathâ was more of a mechanism to rescue GT from the story line, not really related to rescuing the package.
As Badto Thebone suggests, one thing thatâs being overlooked is that our man Jeff is now an international hero, and no matter how things turn out, the legend of the Sorkh Razil is legnd no more.
Coyoty Premium Member almost 14 years ago
The rational world thinks Sorkh Razil is a fictional character from a blog, and will be very confused when heâs hailed as the new leader of Berserkistan.
âHillary, are you saying heâs real? Next youâll be telling me Santa Claus wants a seat at the U.N.!â âUm, sirâŚâ
cdhaley almost 14 years ago
Nemesys,
To say that âall history is viewed through lensesâ is to fall into the New Historicist trap of confusing an event (what actually happens) with the evidence for an event.
Thatâs where judgment comes in. Hegel coined the term âcritical historyâ to distinguish history-writing that analyzes and verifies its sources (as the NYT does) from history-writing that merely reports gossip and myths (as Fox apparently does; I only watch NPR).
In my profession, I often run into publications by the New Historicists. Fortunately my critical (criticize is from Greek krinein = to judge) judgment tells me from the first paragraph if Iâm reading serious, critical history. (These New Historicists are adept at citing irrelevant sources, so youâve got to decide whether theyâve made an analytical judgment themselves).
Nemesys almost 14 years ago
palin, that was a very long way of saying that you canât cite any news sources that do not do what GT and Fox do.
If your prefer the NYT and NPR, fine. I read and listen to them also. But if your judgment is that NPR and the New York Times do not present news events through their own dirty lenses, then your judgment is questionable. The Times may verify its sources, but then it only reports what it believes is fit for you to know. Viewing history as reported only by the Times would leave huge gaps in the historical record, not to mention several deliberate falsifications and distortions. I can itemize them if you like.
All you are actually saying is that because you prefer the news that NPR and the NY Times presents to you that you feel that they are the most valid of sources. The very same can be said of Fox viewers, although since you censor yourself and do not watch Fox, I admire your ability to comment in such depth and detail about them. Methinks that Hegel would have advocated first-hand knowledge of a topic before creating oneâs own historical context of its nature. Good judgment will never replace good data.
While I also admire the egocentricsm implied, I can only remind you of the wise words of Fat Bastard: âEveryone likes their own brandâ.
ChukLitl Premium Member almost 14 years ago
Itâs a successful operation all the way around, including Overkill dumping Jeff. Now someone, known to have given $50million to Karzaiâs brother, with ties to the CIA & itâs shadier subcontractors, is in the palace of neighboring Berzerkistan. Red Rascal, indeed. Zipper makes a mint off the video game & buys back Zonkers castle in time for them all to attend the princeâs wedding.
cdhaley almost 14 years ago
Nemesys,
By insisting exclusively on the subjective aspect of knowledge, you merely abdicate our responsibility to criticize/judge. Reality is bigger than your ego or mine, but we canât even see that fact without the help of judgment.
Without judgment, we could not decide how one course of action is better than another, much less how one newspaper excels another. Moral right and wrong would be leveled to egocentric preferences and laws would make no senseâand my students could grade themselves!
Unlike Fox News and Doonesbury, actual history affords us no holiday from judgment. To quote Hegel again, history is a slaughterbench. Thatâs why most persons, quite understandably, welcome diversions like The Fiery Ball of Death.
Ps. You seem to find some difference between âgood judgmentâ and âgood data.â I thought I made it clear that interpreting the dataâas opposed to just selecting them and repeating them uncriticallyâis the main function of our judgment.
Historical writing will obviously âleave gaps in the historical recordâ because history is never complete. Our judgment should aim constantly to correct the record. And by the way, does Fox News (you watch it more than I can) publish corrections of its mistakes, the way NPR and the NYT do?
Pps. (to below) Your Jesuit professor was wise with the knowledge of the serpent, and youâin being hard on yourselfâshowed the innocence of the dove.
Nemesys almost 14 years ago
palin,
I do not claim that knowledge is not subjective, only that all providers, consumers, editors, and critics of it are. That goes for me when I grade papers as well, in that I must conciously adhere to the agreed rubrics. Try as we might, we are not immune from subjective judgment, and I think that the first indication of being subjective is to believe that there is no possibility that we are not.
While attending a Jesuit graduate school, I had a Jesuit Father professor (of Educational Morality) who insisted that we grade ourselves. The process was educational in itself,and I gave myself a lower grade than I believe he would have. Was my judgment more knowlegable than his? I still ponder the question.
k_sera almost 14 years ago
Did anyone besides me notice that Dukeâs combover changed direction between panels 1 and 3?
FriscoLou almost 14 years ago
I thought it was an oscillating fan k_sera, look at the smoke.
queertoons almost 14 years ago
Iâm a little surprised at the draft Jeff Redfern movement. The logic of his various arcs - although this one is something of a departure - dictates that whatever he does or doesnât do, Jeff and Joanie will remain ignorant and/or dubious of his (mis)adventures.