The NEA is trying to sanitize its web site of its own racist CRT policies, and nazi vax demands after backlash: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/national-education-association-takes-down-pages-crt-anti-racism-mandatory-vaccine-assembly-proposals
The disrespect shown to the teaching profession from the right continues. Blindly accepting some of the false narratives floating around demonstrate a lack of commitment to seeking the truth via simple research.
It is necessary to teach the good and the bad about our history. Don’t sweep the bad under the rug. Germans teach their children about the holocaust because they don’t want to repeat their mistakes. The ideals set forward in the Declaration of Independence are a goal that we move forward to. It is commendable that we have changed over time and move forward to having all equal under the law.
Public education was fueled by the desire to inculcate American children with democratic values. It was founded on indoctrination.
Then of course there are the religious schools—scorned by the Protests t majority when they were seen as vehicles for Catholic indoctrination, now embraced by conservatives for Christian indoctrination.
As for this CRT food raw, it is a conservative wedge issue fueled by white backlash—the furious frenzy of a waning minority.
Mr. Ramierez. As a teacher I find your attitude insulting. My guess is that you don’t really want America’s children educated, you want them to be employable and obedient. You want them to be able to swallow any crap that FOX News feeds them. You want them to take shitty wages stoically. You want them unquestioning.
Sorry, but no one goes into the classroom to turn out slaves.
The GQPs insist that teaching accredited facts is “indoctrination”, but do want their unsubstantiated propaganda taught and treated as reality… they’ll even purposely lie about what an organization’s acronym stands for in order to “win”…
The teaching profession still includes a huge number of amazing and dedicated people. Unfortunately, the NEA has been taken over by leftists and politicians so the people they supposedly represent look like fools.
Instead of trying to improve America’s failing grades on math and science the NEA teacher’s union wants to spread neo-Marxist indoctrination telling students that “all white people play a part in perpetuating systemic racism.”
In their meeting last week they pledged $127,600 to do the following:A. Share and publicize, through existing channels, information already available on critical race theory (CRT)B. Provide an already-created, in-depth, study that critiques empire, white supremacy, anti-Blackness, anti-Indigeneity, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism, and other forms of power and oppression at the intersections of our society, and that we oppose attempts to ban critical race theory and/or The 1619 Project.C. The Association will further convey that in teaching these topics, it is reasonable and appropriate for curriculum to be informed by academic frameworks for understanding and interpreting the impact of the past on current society, including critical race theory.D. Join with Black Lives Matter at School and the Zinn Education Project to call for a rally this year on October 14—George Floyd’s birthday—as a national day of action to teach lessons about structural racism and oppression.
So, the people that think we should base all our education and laws on a book of fables written to control the peasants, think teaching facts is indoctrination?
Neither the NEA nor any of the state affiliates set curriculum. In my state, curriculum is set by the State Board of Education, though it is possible there is some curriculum items Local School Boards have some input on. If this is all about Critical Race Theory (CRT) (which is being protested mightily in my state, even though it is NOT now nor ever has been taught in my state and there has been no discussion by the evil union or any other group demanding it be added), the only comment Teachers Unions have said is that they will represent teachers who are fired due to what they teach about race to make sure they have due process and are not fired because a parent hated something a teacher said (or that a teacher said that their child took out of context). Teachers are now in the precarious position of having no idea what they are allowed to say about race with all the screaming about not teaching CRT (which, again is not being taught) with no idea of what they ARE allowed to say.
I agree, but right now something that isn’t even being taught in public schools is being politicized — the new boogey man to keep people outraged. It was "all who don’t totally agree with us are socialists, then it was cancel culture, now it is those who disagree with us want to teach our innocent children that they should be ashamed of being white. Granted there are extremists in the far left who say stupid things, but they are no more representative of the whole than the white supremacists and extremists are reflective of everyone in the far right. It will be interesting to see what the new boogeyman will be once they successfully keep a curriculum not being taught and not proposed to be taught from their innocent kids.
knutdl almost 3 years ago
http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-education-and-indoctrination/
Patjade almost 3 years ago
Must be the GQP meme of the “weak”, and Ramirez is yet another to follow the marching orders.
baroden Premium Member almost 3 years ago
You drank too much Trump covfefe. That’s how you got Indoctrinated
Irate Retro almost 3 years ago
The NEA is trying to sanitize its web site of its own racist CRT policies, and nazi vax demands after backlash: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/national-education-association-takes-down-pages-crt-anti-racism-mandatory-vaccine-assembly-proposals
NeedaChuckle Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Fox, Newsmax, Oann, indoctrination exemplified. Ramirez is just doing his bit.
Odon Premium Member almost 3 years ago
The disrespect shown to the teaching profession from the right continues. Blindly accepting some of the false narratives floating around demonstrate a lack of commitment to seeking the truth via simple research.
FrankErnesto almost 3 years ago
And what starts with a ‘b’, and ends with a ‘t’, eight letters?
suzalee almost 3 years ago
It is necessary to teach the good and the bad about our history. Don’t sweep the bad under the rug. Germans teach their children about the holocaust because they don’t want to repeat their mistakes. The ideals set forward in the Declaration of Independence are a goal that we move forward to. It is commendable that we have changed over time and move forward to having all equal under the law.
librarylady59 almost 3 years ago
First they came for…
The Nodding Head almost 3 years ago
Public education was fueled by the desire to inculcate American children with democratic values. It was founded on indoctrination.
Then of course there are the religious schools—scorned by the Protests t majority when they were seen as vehicles for Catholic indoctrination, now embraced by conservatives for Christian indoctrination.
As for this CRT food raw, it is a conservative wedge issue fueled by white backlash—the furious frenzy of a waning minority.
Radish the wordsmith almost 3 years ago
Another racist lie from a right winger.
davidthoms1 almost 3 years ago
Lies such as this are the reason so many don’t believe in science or facts or truth.
piper_gilbert almost 3 years ago
Crime and the CRT will be the Republican platform going into 2022. They have nothing else. Oh, and they will win.
Same2Ubuddy almost 3 years ago
Another example of self-important, corrupt unions destroying everything they touch.
gcottay almost 3 years ago
Typical Ramirez fail.
Arthur I Romeo Premium Member almost 3 years ago
The student has surpassed the master errr teacher.
ChristopherBurns almost 3 years ago
Mr. Ramierez. As a teacher I find your attitude insulting. My guess is that you don’t really want America’s children educated, you want them to be employable and obedient. You want them to be able to swallow any crap that FOX News feeds them. You want them to take shitty wages stoically. You want them unquestioning.
Sorry, but no one goes into the classroom to turn out slaves.
CW Stevenson almost 3 years ago
“Ignorance is bliss.”
The Love of Money is . . . almost 3 years ago
“I” before “E” except after Conservative Cartoons ? . . . /S
martens almost 3 years ago
Ramirez shows about the same level of decency in thus cartoon that Payne did in his cartoon on this subject. That level is commonly known as scum.
ferddo almost 3 years ago
The GQPs insist that teaching accredited facts is “indoctrination”, but do want their unsubstantiated propaganda taught and treated as reality… they’ll even purposely lie about what an organization’s acronym stands for in order to “win”…
Jack Dawson almost 3 years ago
The teaching profession still includes a huge number of amazing and dedicated people. Unfortunately, the NEA has been taken over by leftists and politicians so the people they supposedly represent look like fools.
RAGs almost 3 years ago
“What’s the difference between Ramirez and a carp?”
“One is a scum sucking bottom feeder and the other is a fish.”
mikeaht almost 3 years ago
Instead of trying to improve America’s failing grades on math and science the NEA teacher’s union wants to spread neo-Marxist indoctrination telling students that “all white people play a part in perpetuating systemic racism.”
In their meeting last week they pledged $127,600 to do the following:A. Share and publicize, through existing channels, information already available on critical race theory (CRT)B. Provide an already-created, in-depth, study that critiques empire, white supremacy, anti-Blackness, anti-Indigeneity, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism, and other forms of power and oppression at the intersections of our society, and that we oppose attempts to ban critical race theory and/or The 1619 Project.C. The Association will further convey that in teaching these topics, it is reasonable and appropriate for curriculum to be informed by academic frameworks for understanding and interpreting the impact of the past on current society, including critical race theory.D. Join with Black Lives Matter at School and the Zinn Education Project to call for a rally this year on October 14—George Floyd’s birthday—as a national day of action to teach lessons about structural racism and oppression.
T Smith almost 3 years ago
Hey, you can’t expect Ramirez to be literate, that’s so unfair.
DrDon1 almost 3 years ago
Like “L L Lester,” Ramirez panders and distorts!
Concretionist almost 3 years ago
♪♩♫♪♩
We don’t need no education
We don’t need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone
— Pink Floyd
(Who knew that Pink Floyd supported a right wing agenda? And all those years ago, too!)
TrulyTexan almost 3 years ago
So, the people that think we should base all our education and laws on a book of fables written to control the peasants, think teaching facts is indoctrination?
apfelzra Premium Member almost 3 years ago
It’s not “endoctrination”, you nitwit. It’s “education”. And you really need one!
KarenLaRae Premium Member almost 3 years ago
Neither the NEA nor any of the state affiliates set curriculum. In my state, curriculum is set by the State Board of Education, though it is possible there is some curriculum items Local School Boards have some input on. If this is all about Critical Race Theory (CRT) (which is being protested mightily in my state, even though it is NOT now nor ever has been taught in my state and there has been no discussion by the evil union or any other group demanding it be added), the only comment Teachers Unions have said is that they will represent teachers who are fired due to what they teach about race to make sure they have due process and are not fired because a parent hated something a teacher said (or that a teacher said that their child took out of context). Teachers are now in the precarious position of having no idea what they are allowed to say about race with all the screaming about not teaching CRT (which, again is not being taught) with no idea of what they ARE allowed to say.
KarenLaRae Premium Member almost 3 years ago
I agree, but right now something that isn’t even being taught in public schools is being politicized — the new boogey man to keep people outraged. It was "all who don’t totally agree with us are socialists, then it was cancel culture, now it is those who disagree with us want to teach our innocent children that they should be ashamed of being white. Granted there are extremists in the far left who say stupid things, but they are no more representative of the whole than the white supremacists and extremists are reflective of everyone in the far right. It will be interesting to see what the new boogeyman will be once they successfully keep a curriculum not being taught and not proposed to be taught from their innocent kids.