Or Howard Zinn’s ’People’s History of the United States’ – the section where a Marine was glad that he served but he realized that he was a pawn sent to many conflicts that only served the rich and powerful rather than really protecting the United States.
Back in my college days there was a guy who liked to brag about being in Army ROTC. He was in reality an overweight doofus who wasn’t very bright (he sometimes expressed admiration for Hitler) and a pest. We would call him “Rotsee *” when he was around, the girls referred to him as “Rotsee Rink-a-dink” when he wasn’t.
Hardly someone who would inspire interest in joining ROTC or an army career, even among the most patriotic students.
I hate to tell you this, Marty, but it happens even after popular wars, such as WW2. It also happens when there is no particular war going on. We started fighting the “war on terror” in 1975.
“But doesn’t this always happen after an unpopular war?”
After? The same reluctance has been there during wars.
I remember a news story — I don’t recall exactly when, but some time ago — that the all-volunteer army, unable to fulfill its “quota” of volunteers, had removed its ban on accepting individuals who had served sentences for violent crimes. Has the ban been reinstated or not? I don’t know.
Some never came back at all. They suffered the disrespect of Trump calling them “suckers and losers”…and yet millions of people still kiss Trump’s feet.
I talked4 cousins out of enlisting, by showing the illegalities of the last 20 year long war.. all the war crimes committed, and how the government throws away their vets. We have vets living on the street (27 veteran suicides a day). “We Use You. Abuse You. Then Lose you.” should replace “Be all you can be.” on recruitment posters. Also “War is a Racket” by General Smedley Butler should be required reading for anyone considering enlisting.
79nysv over 1 year ago
4. Lack of Leadership
SHIVA over 1 year ago
My time in the Army was a rite of passage, and I had some good experiences.
admiree2 over 1 year ago
Add bad management of personnel resources.
QuincyAdamsGhost Premium Member over 1 year ago
Well said M2B !!
akachman Premium Member over 1 year ago
And too fat. Can’t make the basic exercise requirement.
Zebrastripes over 1 year ago
Boys who enlisted and or were recruited, came back as men!
Masterskrain over 1 year ago
#4: Imaginary Bone Spurs.
James Deveney Premium Member over 1 year ago
Or Howard Zinn’s ’People’s History of the United States’ – the section where a Marine was glad that he served but he realized that he was a pawn sent to many conflicts that only served the rich and powerful rather than really protecting the United States.
Diat60 over 1 year ago
Is there such a thing as a “popular” war?
MIAMIJAC12 Premium Member over 1 year ago
after? more like during.
mac04416 over 1 year ago
But during the unpopular war there was no issue? What has changed or happened in the couple of years…..
Newenglandah over 1 year ago
Back in my college days there was a guy who liked to brag about being in Army ROTC. He was in reality an overweight doofus who wasn’t very bright (he sometimes expressed admiration for Hitler) and a pest. We would call him “Rotsee *” when he was around, the girls referred to him as “Rotsee Rink-a-dink” when he wasn’t.
Hardly someone who would inspire interest in joining ROTC or an army career, even among the most patriotic students.
BlueIris Premium Member over 1 year ago
4. Other jobs have better pay and benefits.
SofaKing over 1 year ago
This is a reason one certain political party likes to ruin the economy, so joining up becomes the only option.
piper_gilbert over 1 year ago
hawgowar over 1 year ago
I hate to tell you this, Marty, but it happens even after popular wars, such as WW2. It also happens when there is no particular war going on. We started fighting the “war on terror” in 1975.
gammaguy over 1 year ago
“But doesn’t this always happen after an unpopular war?”
After? The same reluctance has been there during wars.
I remember a news story — I don’t recall exactly when, but some time ago — that the all-volunteer army, unable to fulfill its “quota” of volunteers, had removed its ban on accepting individuals who had served sentences for violent crimes. Has the ban been reinstated or not? I don’t know.
lcgeorge Premium Member over 1 year ago
M2B Love your very thoughtful perspectives. Thanks.
Rauderi over 1 year ago
Can always add
4. Pitiful government support after leaving the military doesn’t justify risking one’s life.
DawnQuinn1 over 1 year ago
IF they came back.
khmo over 1 year ago
Did this feature die? No updates in quite awhile.
DawnQuinn1 over 1 year ago
Some never came back at all. They suffered the disrespect of Trump calling them “suckers and losers”…and yet millions of people still kiss Trump’s feet.
offbeatcomics over 1 year ago
I talked4 cousins out of enlisting, by showing the illegalities of the last 20 year long war.. all the war crimes committed, and how the government throws away their vets. We have vets living on the street (27 veteran suicides a day). “We Use You. Abuse You. Then Lose you.” should replace “Be all you can be.” on recruitment posters. Also “War is a Racket” by General Smedley Butler should be required reading for anyone considering enlisting.