My partner is currently in Vietnam, it made her sick to see what America did in the war you jumped into with no justification. 5 generations and they are still getting affected by Agent Orange.
What freedoms are the troops fighting for? Freedom of speech? Freedom of assembly? No country that we’ve bee at war with was trying to take away any of our “freedoms”.
I’ll be travelling down to another city to play my band instrument with another group on Memorial Day. We gladly honor those who have paid the highest price for our freedom.
Added to that list for me will be loading pork butts and briskets into the smoker at 5:00am and setting it to low and slow, leave my grandson in charge of making sure the water pan stays half full, then heading over to Fort Leavenworth National Cemetary for the ceremony and visiting a couple of buddies interred there. And let’s not forget to put beer at the bottom of the list. I hope everyone’s Memorial Day is thoughtful and surrounded by family.
It breaks my heart to know the remaining members of the Greatest Generation are witnessing a time when half of America support a fascist for President. My God, what has happened to America?
Spot on, Joe. My grandfather fought in WWI and WWII. My father, in WWII and Korea. The war in Vietnam was a mistake, a lie, and a tragedy – but don’t blame the men who fought and died there. Blame the politicians for that one. Regardless, we all live and breathe free today because brave men have risked and sometimes given their lives in difficult situations.
And, lest we forget, trump once referred to those who gave their lives for this country as “losers.”
When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.
Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Any veteran who votes for Trump is dishonoring the people who served with him— especially those who are on Trump’s list of “suckers and losers” and consequently unable to vote themselves.
^^ It is, however about those who gave their lives to defend your feces-filled plastic idol, in whose underwear you gladly reside.
Because of criminal defenders like you, many choose to make mention of those who should respect those who lost their lives defending freedom, but instead, choose to demean and insult their sacrifice.
Someone is an poor representative of their avatar.
No, this is about those who were brave and had integrity, my friends, and colleagues who did not return with the remainder of us who though scarred for life live to remember them and the many things they gave up. Here is a Tost to the fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers, the sons and daughters, the grand and great-grandchildren who paid the ultimate price for us to have the U.S. Republic and not some two-bit dictatorship
It seems to me that the honour due to veterans, and particularly the military dead, should be in direct proportion to the honour of the war in which they fought.
Two world wars, which the US entered after dragging its feet, were against foes that were threatening world peace, and engaging in imperial and terrible acts. The Korean War was in response to a UN Resolution against the nut who was running North Korea.
The wars against the Philippines, Vietnam, and Iraq (to name just a few) were hegemonic attacks on people in countries that never harmed or threatened the US. In the case of Vietnam, at least, there were a great many young men who grasped the fact that the US was not only on the wrong side, but was the wrong side. I honour those who fought against those wars, and not those who participated in them.
I suggest that appropriate reading for US Memorial Day would be Mark Twain’s anti-imperialist essay “To the Person Sitting in Darkness.” www .gutenberg .org /ebooks /62636
I prefer “give honor and respect”. Somehow, giving thanks feels inappropriate. Remember, this is not a day for thanking veterans — those who returned. This day is for honoring those who did not.
I don’t think it’s possible to adequately thank them or their survivors for making the ultimate sacrifice, and if we focus on thanking them, we run the risk of normalizing that sacrifice. Go to Washington, DC sometime and visit the memorials on the National Mall. Visit a national cemetery. Read the names, and remember that this person lived and breathed and left behind friends and family who continued to mourn them long after they were gone. Remember that they had every intention of returning home; they did not set out planning to give their lives for their country, no matter how much they may have prepared for the possibility — they all wanted to come home.
War is hell. It is sometimes necessary, although it’s very hard to tell when that is, and very hard to judge afterwards because we don’t get to find out what would have happened had we chosen another path. And those who served generally have little say in any case. They go where they are sent, drafted unwillingly or volunteering to serve for their own betterment or for protection of the nation’s interests, and then through our duly elected representatives, we send them to risk their lives. And some of them do not return. I can’t find any words adequate to thank them for that. I feel more like apologizing for the necessity of their sacrifice, but that wouldn’t be right either.
So we should stand with their survivors and honor the dead, and remember them. Fund efforts to find the remaining MIA and bring them home. And support Gold Star families if you know any.
Flashaaway about 1 month ago
My partner is currently in Vietnam, it made her sick to see what America did in the war you jumped into with no justification. 5 generations and they are still getting affected by Agent Orange.
knutdl about 1 month ago
Hamberders?
braindead Premium Member about 1 month ago
Suckers and Losers, according to The Messiah.
Retrac Premium Member about 1 month ago
Well done, Mr. Heller
ljl54311 about 1 month ago
What freedoms are the troops fighting for? Freedom of speech? Freedom of assembly? No country that we’ve bee at war with was trying to take away any of our “freedoms”.
rossevrymn about 1 month ago
the ol’ editorial cartoonist, military holiday weekend punteroo
preacherman Premium Member about 1 month ago
I’ll be travelling down to another city to play my band instrument with another group on Memorial Day. We gladly honor those who have paid the highest price for our freedom.
NRHAWK Premium Member about 1 month ago
Added to that list for me will be loading pork butts and briskets into the smoker at 5:00am and setting it to low and slow, leave my grandson in charge of making sure the water pan stays half full, then heading over to Fort Leavenworth National Cemetary for the ceremony and visiting a couple of buddies interred there. And let’s not forget to put beer at the bottom of the list. I hope everyone’s Memorial Day is thoughtful and surrounded by family.
piper_gilbert about 1 month ago
It breaks my heart to know the remaining members of the Greatest Generation are witnessing a time when half of America support a fascist for President. My God, what has happened to America?
mitchkeos Premium Member about 1 month ago
Spot on, Joe. My grandfather fought in WWI and WWII. My father, in WWII and Korea. The war in Vietnam was a mistake, a lie, and a tragedy – but don’t blame the men who fought and died there. Blame the politicians for that one. Regardless, we all live and breathe free today because brave men have risked and sometimes given their lives in difficult situations.
And, lest we forget, trump once referred to those who gave their lives for this country as “losers.”
Diane Lee Premium Member about 1 month ago
When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.
Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
Any veteran who votes for Trump is dishonoring the people who served with him— especially those who are on Trump’s list of “suckers and losers” and consequently unable to vote themselves.
Geezer about 1 month ago
Reminder: This cartoon is not about that guy that many of the commenters are obsessed with.
mr_sherman Premium Member about 1 month ago
^^ It is, however about those who gave their lives to defend your feces-filled plastic idol, in whose underwear you gladly reside.
Because of criminal defenders like you, many choose to make mention of those who should respect those who lost their lives defending freedom, but instead, choose to demean and insult their sacrifice.
Someone is an poor representative of their avatar.Grandma Lea about 1 month ago
No, this is about those who were brave and had integrity, my friends, and colleagues who did not return with the remainder of us who though scarred for life live to remember them and the many things they gave up. Here is a Tost to the fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers, the sons and daughters, the grand and great-grandchildren who paid the ultimate price for us to have the U.S. Republic and not some two-bit dictatorship
cherns Premium Member about 1 month ago
It seems to me that the honour due to veterans, and particularly the military dead, should be in direct proportion to the honour of the war in which they fought.
Two world wars, which the US entered after dragging its feet, were against foes that were threatening world peace, and engaging in imperial and terrible acts. The Korean War was in response to a UN Resolution against the nut who was running North Korea.
The wars against the Philippines, Vietnam, and Iraq (to name just a few) were hegemonic attacks on people in countries that never harmed or threatened the US. In the case of Vietnam, at least, there were a great many young men who grasped the fact that the US was not only on the wrong side, but was the wrong side. I honour those who fought against those wars, and not those who participated in them.
I suggest that appropriate reading for US Memorial Day would be Mark Twain’s anti-imperialist essay “To the Person Sitting in Darkness.” www .gutenberg .org /ebooks /62636
calliarcale about 1 month ago
I prefer “give honor and respect”. Somehow, giving thanks feels inappropriate. Remember, this is not a day for thanking veterans — those who returned. This day is for honoring those who did not.
I don’t think it’s possible to adequately thank them or their survivors for making the ultimate sacrifice, and if we focus on thanking them, we run the risk of normalizing that sacrifice. Go to Washington, DC sometime and visit the memorials on the National Mall. Visit a national cemetery. Read the names, and remember that this person lived and breathed and left behind friends and family who continued to mourn them long after they were gone. Remember that they had every intention of returning home; they did not set out planning to give their lives for their country, no matter how much they may have prepared for the possibility — they all wanted to come home.
War is hell. It is sometimes necessary, although it’s very hard to tell when that is, and very hard to judge afterwards because we don’t get to find out what would have happened had we chosen another path. And those who served generally have little say in any case. They go where they are sent, drafted unwillingly or volunteering to serve for their own betterment or for protection of the nation’s interests, and then through our duly elected representatives, we send them to risk their lives. And some of them do not return. I can’t find any words adequate to thank them for that. I feel more like apologizing for the necessity of their sacrifice, but that wouldn’t be right either.
So we should stand with their survivors and honor the dead, and remember them. Fund efforts to find the remaining MIA and bring them home. And support Gold Star families if you know any.