I grew up in an area where deer hunting was almost a local holiday, most schools around mine would close down on the first day of the season because they knew so many of the faculty and of age students would not be there. I never was a hunter, because it was not something we did in my family and because I’m a terrible shot. Having firearms to hunt and target shoot is something I completely support.
I also understand why people like shooting things like AR-15s and the like, they are fun to shoot. What I would like to offer as a compromise on these weapons is that since no one needs them for hunting or self defense, why not allow people to own them but only keep and use them at a licensed gun range?
My MAGA / gun nut nephew called to gloat about the Supreme Court overturning “Biden’s bump stock ban”… I pointed out that the ban occurred during Trump’s administration… he denied that, then retorted “Biden is President now, so it’s on him”… so I responded that he must thank Biden for overturning Trump’s bump stock ban… he called me a commie and hung up… I blocked his number.
Automatic weapons are illegal, and have been illegal since 1933. The AR15 is semi-automatic, and any modifications to make it fire as an automatic is illegal.
Semi-automatic weapons include pistols, rifles and shot guns. The AR15 is being targeted as an ‘assault rifle’ by dishonest politicians on both sides. The AR15 is NOT an assault rifle. It is not an automatic weapon and an assault rifle MUST be fully automatic to be an assault rifle. The AR15 functions the same as any other semi-automatic weapon, such as the M1 Garand, carbines, and a host of 30.06 hunting rifles. In fact, some use the AR15 for hunting. It just looks different. It looks like the M16A1 or the M4 fully automatic assault rifle. It’s looks are based in contemporary/modern design versus the older wood stock weapons.
This is where we should regulate.
Most states have a legal limit of 3 rounds in a hunting weapon. So, there is no need at all for anything more than the standard magazine in an AR15. 30 round capacity and more are not needed, nor intended, for civilian use. The ammunition itself also needs to be regulated. Hollow point and armor piercing rounds are not intended for civilian use either. These regulations should apply to ALL weapons, not just the AR15.
Don’t be fooled by those whose agenda is to confuse people, rather than solve the issue. Know the facts and not the hype. We need to make smart decisions, not knee-jerk reaction to supposed ‘leaders’ who aren’t interested in doing the hard work to solve the issue.
I wonder how long it will be before the relative of someone who died in Las Vegas takes a gun with a bump stock into the Supreme Court building. Does their security detail have enough manpower and firepower to stop such a person before (s)he stops them?
The gun rights folk don’t get it. I don’t need to make decisions about someone else’s health care, and neither do they need complete and ope n access to whatever procedures they deem appropriate. Neither do you or I need a gun. If one right can be abridged, they all can.
The reich wing members of SCOTUS begins every case from how they want to rule. Then they work backwards to justify that conclusion, ignoring evidence, logic and reasoning.
I guess it’s time once again for me to dust off my simple solution to this problem.
Forget about regulating guns. Too much historical baggage, patchworks of state legislation, NRA funding, yada-yada-yada … Ain’t gonna happen. “Guns don’t kill people” is, unless you club someone on the head with a .45, literally true. And, despite the anecdotes related here of morons in the woods, hunters aren’t the big problem either. It’s the ready availability of handguns that creates the most carnage. There are so many of them, so easy to get, and can change hands so quickly, that any hope of keeping them out of the hands of folks who shouldn’t have them is a challenge that would crush Sisyphus.
Not to state the obvious, but bullets are what kill people, so THAT is what we need to regulate. What about a 500% federal sales tax on bullets, by weight? If nothing else, it will discourage the untrained idiots who think it’s manly to slide a hip-flask into their camo and go out in the woods once or twice a year to blast all manner of creatures minding their own business. Well-organized hunting clubs and shooting ranges could get a tax exemption, as could personal-use reloaders, farmers/ranchers, and others with a legitimate business or personal use case. Documentation of safe storage, and recurrent training like for a CDL, would be required to maintain eligibility for the tax break on the ammo.
Hunters aren’t the problem we have with gun violence. The REAL “gun problem” is the ready availability of handguns. You don’t see too many of the above-mentioned groups knocking off liquor stores, or shooting up neighborhoods, or exchanging gunfire in the street. And you can bet that none of them went to the effort to obtain permits for their firearms. So let’s turn them all into six-pound rocks that they can throw at each other. At the very least, it will make drug-dealing and gun-related crime slightly less profitable.
Just A Guy 12 days ago
I grew up in an area where deer hunting was almost a local holiday, most schools around mine would close down on the first day of the season because they knew so many of the faculty and of age students would not be there. I never was a hunter, because it was not something we did in my family and because I’m a terrible shot. Having firearms to hunt and target shoot is something I completely support.
I also understand why people like shooting things like AR-15s and the like, they are fun to shoot. What I would like to offer as a compromise on these weapons is that since no one needs them for hunting or self defense, why not allow people to own them but only keep and use them at a licensed gun range?
A# 466 12 days ago
Now the blood of Vegas and like massacres will be on the hands of the Gang of Six right-wingers. I hope they gag on it — if not worse.
ferddo 12 days ago
My MAGA / gun nut nephew called to gloat about the Supreme Court overturning “Biden’s bump stock ban”… I pointed out that the ban occurred during Trump’s administration… he denied that, then retorted “Biden is President now, so it’s on him”… so I responded that he must thank Biden for overturning Trump’s bump stock ban… he called me a commie and hung up… I blocked his number.
Radish the wordsmith 12 days ago
That’s your right wing attitude, guns are more important than your life.
Boomer Premium Member 12 days ago
SCOTUS choses form over substance, narrow words over a statute’s intent. And that is the problem with these “originalist idiots.”
Pgalden1 Premium Member 11 days ago
And SCOTUS wonders why they are unpopular, and real Americans are so upset with their overtly bought decisions to overturn precedents.
IndyW 11 days ago
I have been using guns for hunting, work, and sports all my life, and cannot see any reason to have or use a bump stock.
Rich Douglas 11 days ago
Stop voting for Republicans. It’s bad for you.
sandflea 11 days ago
I’m surprised SCOTUS hasn’t already determined shoulder fired grenade and missile launchers should be legal.
ncorgbl 11 days ago
Automatic weapons are illegal, and have been illegal since 1933. The AR15 is semi-automatic, and any modifications to make it fire as an automatic is illegal.
Semi-automatic weapons include pistols, rifles and shot guns. The AR15 is being targeted as an ‘assault rifle’ by dishonest politicians on both sides. The AR15 is NOT an assault rifle. It is not an automatic weapon and an assault rifle MUST be fully automatic to be an assault rifle. The AR15 functions the same as any other semi-automatic weapon, such as the M1 Garand, carbines, and a host of 30.06 hunting rifles. In fact, some use the AR15 for hunting. It just looks different. It looks like the M16A1 or the M4 fully automatic assault rifle. It’s looks are based in contemporary/modern design versus the older wood stock weapons.
This is where we should regulate.
Most states have a legal limit of 3 rounds in a hunting weapon. So, there is no need at all for anything more than the standard magazine in an AR15. 30 round capacity and more are not needed, nor intended, for civilian use. The ammunition itself also needs to be regulated. Hollow point and armor piercing rounds are not intended for civilian use either. These regulations should apply to ALL weapons, not just the AR15.
Don’t be fooled by those whose agenda is to confuse people, rather than solve the issue. Know the facts and not the hype. We need to make smart decisions, not knee-jerk reaction to supposed ‘leaders’ who aren’t interested in doing the hard work to solve the issue.
gammaguy 11 days ago
I wonder how long it will be before the relative of someone who died in Las Vegas takes a gun with a bump stock into the Supreme Court building. Does their security detail have enough manpower and firepower to stop such a person before (s)he stops them?
Bendarling1 10 days ago
The gun rights folk don’t get it. I don’t need to make decisions about someone else’s health care, and neither do they need complete and ope n access to whatever procedures they deem appropriate. Neither do you or I need a gun. If one right can be abridged, they all can.
phritzg Premium Member 9 days ago
The reich wing members of SCOTUS begins every case from how they want to rule. Then they work backwards to justify that conclusion, ignoring evidence, logic and reasoning.
ShadowMaster 9 days ago
“and now school’s out early and we’ll soon be learning that the lesson today was how to die!” The Boomtown Rats—I Don’t Like Mondays
Aviatrexx Premium Member 9 days ago
I guess it’s time once again for me to dust off my simple solution to this problem.
Forget about regulating guns. Too much historical baggage, patchworks of state legislation, NRA funding, yada-yada-yada … Ain’t gonna happen. “Guns don’t kill people” is, unless you club someone on the head with a .45, literally true. And, despite the anecdotes related here of morons in the woods, hunters aren’t the big problem either. It’s the ready availability of handguns that creates the most carnage. There are so many of them, so easy to get, and can change hands so quickly, that any hope of keeping them out of the hands of folks who shouldn’t have them is a challenge that would crush Sisyphus.
Not to state the obvious, but bullets are what kill people, so THAT is what we need to regulate. What about a 500% federal sales tax on bullets, by weight? If nothing else, it will discourage the untrained idiots who think it’s manly to slide a hip-flask into their camo and go out in the woods once or twice a year to blast all manner of creatures minding their own business. Well-organized hunting clubs and shooting ranges could get a tax exemption, as could personal-use reloaders, farmers/ranchers, and others with a legitimate business or personal use case. Documentation of safe storage, and recurrent training like for a CDL, would be required to maintain eligibility for the tax break on the ammo.
Hunters aren’t the problem we have with gun violence. The REAL “gun problem” is the ready availability of handguns. You don’t see too many of the above-mentioned groups knocking off liquor stores, or shooting up neighborhoods, or exchanging gunfire in the street. And you can bet that none of them went to the effort to obtain permits for their firearms. So let’s turn them all into six-pound rocks that they can throw at each other. At the very least, it will make drug-dealing and gun-related crime slightly less profitable.