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Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for August 16, 2009
Transcript:
Man: Wow... a court-ordered model! Wonder what this baby gets? Salesman: So what's it going to take to put you in this fine GM vehicle, sir? Man: Depends. Can I get GPS with the sale package? Salesman: Well, that's a bit unusual, so I'll have to check. But I'm sure we can make that happen, sir! Man: Great. Salesman: Al? Got a valued customer here who'd like to customize a package... uh-huh... so who would authorize it there? Okay... yeah, this is Miles at Tri-State. I need a change order for... what? Which department? Got it. Yes. I'm looking for an approval on... no? Well, who do I... really? Sure, I can hold... Salesman: Mr. President! Sorry to bother you, but... yes, I tried your task force... Man: Never mind.
Steve Bartholomew over 15 years ago
Hey, Iāll approve it. Iām part owner.
Joe_Minotaur over 15 years ago
I used to work for one of their divisions about 11 years ago.
AKHenderson Premium Member over 15 years ago
Waitāll they run health care.
Ravenswing over 15 years ago
Heh, yeah, Iām with Grokenstein. Weāre already paying a fortune in insurance so we can cool our heels for hours in emergency rooms (I once spent FIVE HOURS in one slowly bleeding onto the floor). My last physical totaled $1100 in bills ā¦ for a PHYSICAL! My motherās paying $600 out of pocket a month for medications.
And THIS is the system the Republican scaremongers think this administration could screw up? Hereās hoping!
Alabama Al over 15 years ago
I (briefly) use to sell cars at a (now defunct, but not my doing) Ford dealership. Customers who wanted something that the dealership didnāt really want to give got the same run-around shown in the comic, except it was layers of sales managers ā both real and imaginary ā from which we had to get āapprovalā. Better to blame some nameless-faceless company ābureaucratā than to straight out tell the customer āNoā.
One irritating thing I frequently observe is how private industries hide behind government regulations that they, the industries, themselves advocated to be enacted ā the government becoming the willing fall-guy for blame. There is a great myth in this country that the private sector is inherently more efficient than government agencies. Iāve worked in both private companies and the Federal government, and in both cases the organizations were not far removed from a āDilbertā cartoon. In fact, in my own sphere at least, for efficiency Iād have to give the edge to Uncle Sam.
Ravenswing over 15 years ago
Heh, pretty much, Al. And letās review the math. The current administration has been in office for less than eight months.
The previous REPUBLICAN administration was in office for EIGHT YEARS, and in charge of all the government departments and bureaucracy in that time. So if business complains that itās overregulated, would someone kindly explain to me why the guys they claim are business-friendly kept the screws on?
rottmom over 15 years ago
Well Ravenswing, that actually pretty simple. You see, we librils, we are extremely talented and powerful. We can see into the future and influence it from afar and we have bionic powers, extra-perceptional influential abilities and mind reading skills.
It really was the Democratic party that was in charge during the Reagan administration (Poppy Bushās first two terms in office), Poppyās administration AND Juniorās administration.
We, being the ones who understand and can use science, secretly implanted a microchip in Dickās pacemaker that ultimately replaced any human emotions with killer instincts coupled with an unnatural need for more money and power.
Then we charged up the implant in GWās brain (no, Karlās implant isnāt connected, itās really just an upgrade of the same model) that removes any ability to speak or understand the English language and forced him to exercise 4 hours a day, and go to bed every night at 9pm. It also caused extreme fatigue during those times we needed him on vacation so we could influence our Al Queda friends in Iraq to do nasty stuff to the American people.
Iād tell more, but then Iād have to āremoveā you all. Shhhhh!
shoeshit over 15 years ago
I do not know why this has to be viewed as difficult. Senators elected by 2.3 % of the country, and not the brightest 2.3 % I might add, are trying to write a new health care policy without peeking at the latest checks from insurance companies, and drug makers.
The Republical Party is taking Biblical analogies as Gospel Truth, oxymoron #1, and vaporizing.
ipse dixit if you took any Latin.
cheers chaps next time
shoeshit over 15 years ago
WTF my previous has 2 options edit and delete. Post the mf you donāt mind
3hourtour Premium Member over 15 years ago
..I bought a used car three months ago..and boy were they willing to deal..now,that my other clunker is giving out I thought I could get another great deal on another fine used carā¦no such dealā¦āSorry,āthe drealer said,āThat we canāt put you into a car you can afford.ā
Donāt tell me $$$ for Clunkers isnāt working.The dealers are the fine old snobs they used to beā¦
Donaldo Premium Member over 15 years ago
Anybody buying into the Republican cheap scare-campaign, watch Mooreās Sicko. It says it all.
Areeljay over 15 years ago
GPS?? I would like to think that at some point in the past 10 years Trudeau would have heard of ONSTAR!
PSUnderwood over 15 years ago
Mooreās Sicko. Right. Speaking of cheap scare campaignsā¦
jimpow over 15 years ago
If you are a member of an affinity group (AAA, AARP, Costco, etc) the deals are pre-priced. You deal with the fleet manager, not a salesman. I bought a Toyota Sienna (made in Richmond, IN), a Cololla and a Matrix (both made in Fremont, CA) from Frontier Toyota in Valencia, CA. (Sales taxes returned to my home city.) Each deal took about an hour from the time we walked in until we drove off. Itās the only way to go.
Dtroutma over 15 years ago
I sold cars in ā65, āTOā setups are still in effect, the mysterious āsales managerā was there to turn people on to something they didnāt want and couldnāt afford. That is the Republican plan for a tax exemption for some poor slob to buy private insurance, that costs 3-5 times as much as tax exemption will provide. His employer will also be backed out of the picture, so will save his ācost of doing businessā, and provide higher bonuses for the CEO and those at the top.
The Republican plan is the TO. The Health Care plan being proposed, yet being slashed daily due to the Beck/Armey attack from the lies and ignorance brigade, is the simple actuarial posture of everyone pays a little, everyone gets coverage for at least basic health care.
AKHenderson Premium Member over 15 years ago
Ravenswing,
To answer your question: fiscal/regulatory conservatives have not had a majority in Congress in decades at the very least. They get their kind of legislation passed occasionally (e.g. various Contract w/ America reforms in 1995, Kemp-Roth in the early 80s), but not consistently. The party where most of these folks are found is divided over these issues. For presidential examples, Nixon was a regulatory fanatic, and Dubya a spending liberal.
Keep in mind that the Dems controlled all of Congress for 2 of Bushās years, and the 107th Senate for most of its tenure (GOP was majority from January 20āJune 6, 2001).
Ravenswing over 15 years ago
And to answer Mr. Henderson, REGULATION has very little to do with Congress. It has to do with the bureaucracy of the adminstration departments. These are 100% under the control and supervision of the White House.
No kidding the Republicans arenāt remotely fiscal conservatives; half of my point is that Iām sick of them lying in claiming to be.
tcambeul over 15 years ago
bleeep frenchy, first you support obummer, now you stab him.
4deerinmyyard over 15 years ago
HEY! When do MY bionic powers come on-line?! Huh? Huh? When?
AKHenderson Premium Member over 15 years ago
Ravenswing,
Regulatory agencies are brought into being by Congress.
luckylouie over 15 years ago
I just checked the new GM-EBay sales site. They brag on TV that you can get any car you want ā just name your price. But the only vehicles they have for sale are monster trucks and SUVs. Detroit still doesnāt get it.
Donaldo Premium Member over 15 years ago
To PSUnderwood:
Sicko is not depicting a future scenario but simply shows how lousy, outrageous and inefficient the current system is. Then compares it with the ācommunist heavenā systems in France and even Cuba.
The scare campaign is to tell the US people that public health care is impossible and uneconomical while in fact the current system is probably the worst and inhuman on the planet.
Nemesys over 15 years ago
Well, if Cubaās and Canadaās healthcare is so great, then why not just have US doctors give their patients plane tickets to those countries when they need major medical care? Itās free, and Iām sure theyāre as generous treating illegal American aliens as we are treating illegal aliens for free here.
Everybody wins - high quality, low cost. Winner winner, chicken dinner!
blacy over 15 years ago
On govāt subsidizing and regulation:
Corporations in the market to buy members of congress through lobbyists and campaign contributions LOVE to rail against any govāt regulations (as they subsidize congress members coffers) but then flip flop to beg to be bailed out by āthe govāt after theyāve sucked as much from the bubble working people pay into their schemes. Roughly 60% of the people, nurses and doctors want single payer ā they donāt believe the tripe FOX, Limbaugh / Hannity/ etc. lie about on the air waves. I do love to see how republicans - who are conserving nothing and do not deserve the name conservative - have been winding the long rope theyāve taken all about their necks.The party and practice of old and old minded / fear minded people will and must end.