Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for May 22, 2012

Mitt doesn’t see hair color or sexual orientation. It was just a harmless prank. Ask Mitt, he wasn’t hurt by it.

a scary creep

This is just pathetic, even for the Obama campaign. He cannot possibly run on his abysmal record, so his people have to time travel all the way back to 1965 for an incident that the alleged victim’s family denies even happened.I can hear his angry supporters now: “Oh, yeah? Well, if Romney didn’t do it, Bush probably did!”

I have never known bullies to change without paying a price. If they get away with that sort of thing young, they keep on doing it until it is a set character trait. Lower class bullies go to jail eventually, It seems upper class bullies just become republicans

You get a bully for president, and you will have what we have in Canada now- a Prime Minister who thinks he has all the power and just does what he wants to. Oil is his baby, and the environment be damned! Beware!

We expected to break 100 yesterday and turns out there were over 140 (comments). Will headley’s “help” inspire more today?

Since Romney doesn’t remember the workers whose jobs he destroyed 25 years back, we can hardly expect him to recall somebody he humiliated half a century ago.

On the other hand, his recollection of Mormon history is both detailed and precise. Every Sunday he tells the congregation of Latter-Day Saints about his ancestors the Lamanites and how zealously they did God’s work destroying the Nephites. Here is a lament by the victims:

“And behold, the Lamanites have hunted my people, the Nephites, down from city to city and from place to place, even until they are no more ; and great has been their fall ; yea, great and marvelous is the destruction of my people, the Nephites.”

This is not an Ohio factory worker fired by Bain Capital. The speaker is Moroni, son of Mormon (Book of Mormon 8:7). Will we be hearing this cry next year from teachers and other public service employees laid off by a President Romney bent upon “recapitalizing” America for the one per cent?

Can’t wait for the set of strips on story in the Washington Post on the massacre in Arkansas involving Mormons that took place 150 years ago.

Oh, and guys? Maxwell, one of witnesses who spoke to the Post and was supposedly haunted by the incident said, in another interview, that Romney would make a good president because he was very principled — after noting he (Maxwell) was a Democrat and probably wouldn’t vote for him.

The reason – for me anyway – that this is not a nonissue is that Mitt brushes the whole thing off as “hijinks.” I have not heard him say what a horrible thing it is to assault another student – even if he was not involved. That troubles me because it says a lot about what he thinks the powerful can do to the powerless.

Hope the next set is about bo’s youth!

Go ahead, elect Mitt POTUS and he’ll give ALL of us a hair-cut!

And I suppose Obama’s failure to pick up on the hate in 10+ years of listening to Rev. Wright’s sermons is not as important as Rommey’s failure to remember something that happened in the 60s.

When Romney started his run for prez, I took a look at his official publicity photo. The grimace-passing-for-a-smile on his face practically screamed “I’m a sadist – I enjoy hurting people.”

He’s already on the record saying “I enjoy firing people” and now this particular episode from his past… thanks for living down to your face, Mittens.

Sadly, we do go back as far as necessary to find something, anything, to parade around in front of the masses. After all, how far back did “they” have to go to question a certain birth certificate? Life as a soap opera.

Shameful! Obama’s, self-addmitted pushing of a little black girl to make himself cool with the whites is the theme of Barry’s life. Making maids cry at the vomit and destruction he made, is another fond memory.

GladlytheCrossEyedGuardSGT

Please run, do not walk, to your psychiatrist’s office, as your meds are horribly out of balance.

On a more constructive note, try this. The Federal Election Commission answered the necessary questions (not your fantasies as listed here) in 2008.

It’s the economy, STUPID.

I saw today, that the moderate wing and the tea party sect were in a pitched battle for the soul of the Republican party.I didn’t know they had a soul.

For an "inquiring Constitutionalist, " you sound very much like Justice Clarence Thomas (except Thomas has no time for the comics).

never underestimate the hatred and evil of the Republican Party, and thier understudy, the Democratic suck ups.

Kick when they’re up, kick them when they’re down. Just the nature of the Republican Party. not the least bit surprised.Romney is the standard bearer of “whatever it takes” in conning the American people.. and what’s worse, the American Public votes for Republicans.

lol. aren’t Americans and Capitalism great!!!!

don’t even get me started on teh Muslim Kenyan Usurper. lol

If there existed no external means for dimming their consciences, one-half of the men would at once shoot themselves, because to live contrary to one’s reason is a most intolerable state, and all men of our time are in such a state.Leo Tolstoy

>>>an incident that the alleged victim’s family denies even happened.<<<

His family wasn’t there and the witnesses were. I was bullied in high school and never told my family — it seems reasonable to think that this victim didn’t either.

Guard SGT, where were you stationed? What were your years of service? What honors have you received? What type of discharge did you get? Can you defend yourself against the many servicemen who would love to beat the crap out of you if they find out you’re an imposter? Because if you are an imposter, there are people actively seeking you.

Then why do we have so many “anchor babies”—the born in the USA but from illegal immigrants?

So you say. I say that anyone born in the U..S., even if both parents are illegal aliens, is qualified to run for president. No one really knows what natural born citizen means. Some of your friends tried to challenge Obama’s right to be on the Georgia ballot using your theory. They lost. No federal court is ever going to endorse your theory. So you should just give it up and oppose Obama on public policy grounds. You just make yourself look silly with the usurper rhetoric. Even if you were technically correct, your argument will never go anywhere.

“The Constitutionalists, like me, challenge Barry on the fact that his father wasn’t a US Citizen. That alone disqualifies him from being President.”-Are you really that ignorant?There are 3 Qualifications for being eligible for being POTUS.1. Must be a natural born citizen of the USA2. Must be at least 35 years old.3. Must have lived in the USA for at least 14 years.It’s right there in the constitution, article 2, section1, clause 5. Nothing about the birthplace of one’s father.

“Hey, willard,liar liar pants on fire.(that is language that willard should understand)”………………………………….I might have understood your comment if it had been preceded by the comment you were referring to. I really don’t have time to scroll back to find it. Oh, well………..

" These are just starters for the person with no verifiable past."……………………………………..Theoretical question: Would you rather haveno verifiable past, or a past like Romney’s?

Sorry. No court will support your theory. By the way, I think that the Constitution should be amended so that naturalized citizens can run for any office in the United States. Can I count on you for your support? If not, why not?

Contrary to your opinion, you and your friends are not the final authorities on the Constitution. The courts are. You lost and you will never win. Give up now.

That’s because those questions have been answered. Some of you still can’t understand the answers…

Gee, I thought there was an intelligence test for being in the military? No? What about a sanity test? Guess not.

No…it…does…not. The constitution does not define NBC at all. British common law, which we must rely on for the definition, defines children born to resident aliens as natural born citizens. End of story. You are wrong.

LMAO A birther

BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So tell us how does an upper middle class girl in collage manage to bribe two Political parties, A state government. As well as a prosecutors office..

All this is was done almost fifty years ago t on the very off chance that this child might on the very off chance become President of America.

Wear your tin hat with pride you fool.

“Hawaii law is supposed to grant access in cases like this.”No, Hawaii law grants access to those who have an official reason to view the data. A birther’s paranoid delusions aren’t sufficient reason.

No, the Minor case did not decide that. It clearly states this in the same opinion you are quoting, but you have chosen to ignore that part, because it doesn’t say what you want it to.

Well, Barack Obama Sr. was born in Kenya. Hey— I may have figured this out— my dad and brother both had the same name too and often it did cause confusion… Hence, many people went looking for my dad and got my bro and vice versa. It happens folks.

As for Willard Mitt Romney, did anyone see Mick Jagger on SNL this past weekend? He got in a pretty good jab— don’t let him cut your hair! LOL— Mick has still got it and so does GT!

Dear Mr. Trudeau: I love it when you read my mind! Adoringly, Erin

Romney’s father was in fact, born in Mexico. By GuardSGT’s standards, this makes him ineligible to run for President.

Arguing with “sarge” is like playing chess with a pigeon. His delusion is 100% immutable. One thousand supreme court justices could personally tell him why he is incorrect, but he will still go to his grave insisting that BHO has no legal right to the POTUS. Even Donald Trump would be embarrassed by his positions, so I personally ascribe zero credibility to anything that he happens to spew on this forum.

The Cold Case Posse are a certifiable group of Arpio groupies who have no legitimate, let alone legal authority. Lot’s of luck with that one.

I am removing this from my list of comics. I am tired of Garry Trudeau’s Liberal bias. I don’t need cartoons giving me the liberal spin; there is plenty of that in the mainstream media.Last, he is no longer funny.

What a FOOL is Trudeau.

Fair enough. I couldn’t disagree more. We are a nation of immigrants, even though we have had a lot of sons and daughters of immigrants claiming that the new immigrants just aren’t as good as the old ones. I don’t think that naturalized citizens should be second class citizens, and while I probably wouldn’t vote for Arnold the Barbarian, I don’t think that he would betray us to the Austrians if he were elected President. While it’s true that our early president were never citizens of another country, they were all former British subjects.

“So far Hawaii has NOT replied to requests in this criminal investigation.”

Because Hawaii knows there was no crime.

“Guard SGT”, you have proved, repetitively, monotonously, that I shouldn’t believe a word that you repeat endlessly.

You mean like Bush blamed his failures on the man who gave us peace and prosperity, Bill Clinton?

Memory failure – the ever popular out for politicans and corporate criminals, second only to I don’t know.

Comments taken out of context, unsupported rumors portrayed as fact, fictious sources that back up a failed president. Don’t tell me that the media or the author of this strip does not have its own ax to grind.

“The 19th Amendment did not change the finding on Natural Born Citizenship”

There was no “finding” related to NBC in Minor. The opinion you quote clearly states that, "For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. "

The actual “finding” you seek was in US v. Wong Kim Ark. They also referenced Minor, but went beyond Minor to actually define NBC based on English common law. Quoting from the case:

In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the fourteenth amendment now in question, said: ‘The constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.’ And he proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision. 21 Wall. 167.

And the result:

The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance—also called ‘ligealty,’ ‘obedience,’ ‘faith,’ or ’power’—of the king. The principle embraced all persons born within the king’s allegiance, and subject to his protection.…Children, born in England, of such aliens, were therefore natural-born subjects.

So there is a legal precedent that directly addresses the question, but it does not in any way support your position. It says, in plain English, that the President is a natural born citizen, thus qualified.

Of course, you won’t accept the clear evidence given here. You made up your mind a long time ago, and facts won’t change that.

When the strip turns to attack ads for the left it gets so booorrinngg

People who go to a liberal comic strip and expect it to parrot their right-wing preconceptions are sooo boring…

Mitt was defending Paris as a missionary, while “W” was deserting from the National Guard, real courage under fire. Mitt also was of military age (18) when he harassed another student, no reason his juvenile mind should recall. Kinda’ like forgetting where the WMDs were located after you knew EXACTLY where they were??

Yup, unit citations and a good conduct medal, “guard” is a real front line E.T. , nope, just and REMF. Now, if he just actually read a little Constitutional law, or ever knew what he was talking about, he might contribute more than assaults on the President, and phony support for Mitt. “Rushism” are NOT facts.

btw, crew wings, overseas(combat) bars, and those funny “star” medals mean something, especially with “V” device. Interesting btw as well how “enlisted” often don’t get squat, or paperwork gets “lost” in the shuffle of war zones, but OFFICERS always seem to end up with at least a bronze star (without “v”) for just showing up. Just got a pat on the back, twice, when my paperwork “got lost”, and several friends had the same experience.

But, just like my son, 40+ years later, those VA benefits for permanent and total disability for multiple injuries and “effects” of war that I receive,, do say more than even a ribbon, or medal sitting in a drawer.

Go for it Garry! WE know YOU KNOW what we’ve done, and while you respect us vets, you call it on the phony “politicians” who deserve what you serve ’em! Thank you!!

No, that is not the way it is run. Why don’t you go on Rush Limbaugh’s show and ask for fair play? Not the way you run things, is it?

He gets it from an obscure line in a 150-year-old court decision that actually had nothing to do with presidential eligibility.

The case in no way defined the term Natural-born. Please indicate exactly where, in the text of the Minor v Happersett case (which held that women did not have the right to vote, by the way), that it did so.

Take your medicine, it will make the voices go away.

From the case: “The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts.”

Meanwhile, back in the land that women and black people are allowed to vote:

A three-member Indiana Court of Appeals stated: “Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are ‘natural born Citizens’ for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.” Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana (Ind.App., Nov. 12, 2009) 916 N.E.2d 678 at 688 101 Administrative Law Judge Michael Malihi in Georgia decided a group of eligibility challenge cases saying “The Indiana Court rejected the argument that Mr. Obama was ineligible, stating that the children born within the United States are natural born citizens, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. … This Court finds the decision and analysis of Ankeny persuasive.”102 Federal District Judge John A Gibney, Jr. wrote in his decision in the case of Tisdale v. Obama, "The eligibility requirements to be President of the United States are such that the individual must be a “natural born citizen” of the United States … It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens. See, e.g. United States v. Ark [sic] …" 103On October 31, 2008, Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino issued a statement saying, “I … have personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.” 54104 On July 27, 2009, Dr. Fukino issued an additional statement saying, “I … have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.”105

For what it’s worth, I have always felt that, since we have no control over the circumstances of our birth, either the parents, the place, or the social strata, it is what we make of ourselves as adults, that is the measure of success and self-esteem.

It is worth remembering that the founders were all traitors to their nation.

There’s probably a cardboard cutout of him at the entrance to the looney bin… “You must be as crazy as this guy to be committed” — well, that’s not fair really: it could be anyone… birther, truther, tenthers, teabaggers, young eathers, creationists, intelligent designers (see creationists), flat earthers… the list goes on and on…

After reading the comments, I am enlightened. Conclusion: Romney’s bullying is the same as Obama being born in Hawaii.

Wow! You can sure stir up the natives Mr. Trudeau! Another great storyline.

Ah, now we have the basic breakdown in the understanding of English and logic.

Quoted from your post:

The key phrase is “…, but never as to the first.” That refers to the now fact that to be Natural Born citizen, one must be, “…of parentS who were citizens who were its CITIZENS became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.”

Notice that the words “one must be” are yours. At no place does the actual source material say that one must have two citizen parents to be a NBC. It does say that those born to citizens parents are, without a doubt, NBCs. This is an inclusive statement that excludes no one.

Thus, there is nothing in Minor to exclude those born to foreign parents. The status of these people is intentionally ignored, thus the “doubts” that aren’t cleared up, because they were irrelevant to the case at hand.

As Minor ducks the question (at least for those of us with English and logic skills), the Wong case, which directly addressed the question, would be a precedent that actually applies, regardless of the level at which it was tried.

“This was never presented in open court. The judge interjected this in closed chambers without the prosecution being given any chance to object or refute. This is wrong.”

It is up to Georgia law to determine the level of public access to various procedures of the courts, not you. If it was “wrong”, as you say, it would be illegal and could be challenged.

…and the Cold Case Posse are a bunch of yahoos who will be run out of Hawaii as soon as the residents are tired of laughing at them.

Good one.

Birthers have been screaming that Obama is not an American without one single scrap of proof. There are several eye witnesses to Romney’s assault and battery of another youth but it is being dismissed because…wait for it…Obama is not an American! Obama used drugs! Obama…fill in the transgression!Really? Is this the best the Republican party can do? Dismiss their candidates thuggish behavior with counter-accusations of thuggism? How about nominating a candidate who isn’t either an out and out liar or so psychologically disturbed that he dissociated during an attack on a fellow human being? (For me, dissociation is the only logical explanation for the reason Romney doesn’t remember the assault when everyone else who participated remembers it quite well.)

Sorry, even with the text right there, you choose to parse out what supports an unsupportable position. Note the bold text, the court did not decide on the meaning of “natural born”, because it was not necessary for the case. So, unless you can dig up a Supreme Court case that actually defines the term, lower court decisions rule:

Mitt’s going to have to walk a tight line. He doesn’t want to alienate the birthers or scare the moderates. The birthers would be doing Mitt a favor if they kept quiet about their claims and let Mitt attack Obama on other grounds, but discretion isn’t a birther strength.

Obama’s Gangs are roaming the streets and fighting, and beating on Cops at NATO, (which by the way is over,) and yet there they are still. NATO has nothing to do with the 99% or the economy they claim to be rioting over, and you found a prank. Let’s see Obama ate Dog Meat, Did by his on writing Drugs and liked it, spent 5 trillion in a little over 3 years, and a guy got his hair shaved. (Yep; your right Gary, Hang Him!)

No one remembers obomber as a bully, because, frankly, no one remembers obomber in college!!!

Trudoo races to the bottom – not there yet but working on it.

The liberals must be scared of Romney to have to dig so deep into his past to find something to attack him.

I think Redfern’s lip curl says most of it. I am SO looking forward to Americans voting the traitorous cannibalistic 1%…and in varying degrees, Republicans generally…off the continent.

“I am the real deal!”Just some more unsubstantiated and undocumented claims and you still didn’t address the sec 8 issues.

Feminazis, libmedia and Duncebury? Spoken like someone who listens to Rush. Clinton didn’t bully women. He didn’t chase women who didn’t want to be chased. Big difference. Plenty of women wanted the attention from Clinton. Also, no one died when Clinton lied about his marital infidelity. No one was hurt by this except Chelsea and Hillary and they seemed to deal with it. They had reason to be upset, not you or me.

I knew I was perfectly safe with Bill Clinton. Romney, on the other hand, likes to bully folks who are not like him.

In combat and law enforcement, you learn how to judge character. Romney has nothing worth studying, he’s a bullying, spoiled brat, just like “W”. It is therefore quite easy to see where another herd of bullying cowards (like Cheney)will take us.

Who is holding a gun to someone’s head to read Doonesbury? Whoever it is must stop immediately!

Why are any of you arguing with these fools? You know you can’t convince them. As my boss used to say, “There’s no point in wrestling with a pig. You only get dirty, but the pig enjoys it.”

@Basqueian “Lower class bullies go to jail eventually, It seems upper class bullies just become republicans”

Yes, just look at Phyllis Schlafly.

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