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Drew: Anyway, I really like the diagnostic piece. Med school has made me a better noticer. Alex: Really? Then how come you haven't noticed anything different about me? Drew: Different? Oh, my God! You're glowing! Alex: Twins.
Yippee ! Before the day is over, someone will turn this into a political diatribe. But before that happens, the thought of Mike as a grandfather is terrific !
wow, twins. is there some truth about twins, that one is evil and other is good? or, that they have their own language. or, that they feel the otherâs pain.
Returning to the comic strip itself: Remember a few months ago how Alex wanted to have a nose more like her BFF than her dadâs? Well what I noticed was not so much a glow as a shorter, slightly less angular nose. So I thought her announcement would be about the schnoz, not a pregnancy.
Also: TWINS??? How are they going to raise them, broke as they are? Egads.
The world canât support the population it has now, never mind the future inexorable increase. All major ecosystems are being degraded at an increasing rate and it is just a matter of time before there is a total gaian collapse. Oh well, itâs been a fun ride. The short happy life of the human race.
Wowsie! Iâm happy for Alex and Leo (yes, I know itâs just a comic). However, if sheâs anything like me sheâd be the opposite of âglowingâ during the second and third months. (Maybe she is past that now.) On another note, the twinsâ other biological grandpa is Leoâs anonymous father, member of a rock group. They may be really talented little buggers.
Forgive me, I havenât been keeping up. I take it this revelation was unexpected? Iâm not even sure who the father is meant to be, perhaps anonymous sperm donor and conception was via IVF?
STOP!!! Lets think this out..Knowing GT, and this strip, is âglowingâ and âtwinsâ really about Alex being pregnant (and can she really know itâs twins at this stage?) Or is this reference to something else and a new story line?
I remember asking my wife once if a local newscaster didnât look a little different. A few days later she announced she was pregnant. I still laugh a little at that one.
GT had twins as well as a singleton in his own family. Of course, they are all grown up now. They say it can be an inherited trait. Maybe one of GTâs own kids is having twins? Or wishful thinking on the part of GT?
Hereâs an excellent overview of the population issue:National Geographic: Population 7 BillionYes, fertility rates are declining. Young women â given access to education and birth control â behave with sanity and have far fewer children. And I think many (most?) species have a deep instinct to slow reproduction âwhen the pond is full.âNevertheless, the momentum will continue for a couple of decades. And as the Nat Geo article points out, some problems, like climate change, are no longer affected by population numbers.
And then you have the âChristianâ type who donât believe in any sort of contraception who have 23 kids, have grandchildren older than their youngest kids and own a bus to haul them around.
A good conservation. I agree that the environment is in a bad way. However, we here in the good ole USA have done an awful lot to make our air and water better. But, we have a long way to go. We need to be energy independent but we need to keep working on the environment. I saw and shared an article, on my Facebook page, that exemplifies the dilemna(sp) we are in. While our cities are gaining on air and water quality the citizens of western North Dakota are wrecking the water tables with fracking and the air as they burn off valuable natural gas. This is actually happening all over the country. Wyoming and Pennsylvania come to mind. I have lost family members to cancers that could have been prevented. It is a terrible way to die and, as I said, avoidable. I do not know all the answers and I hope there are people who can solve these problems. OK rant font off.>>We really must have put Tucci out. Havenât seen him today.
âWill the war vet chap be able to cope.âWe all hope so; and with the way heâs dealt with TBI and having ditzy Alex as a bride, Iâm sure he will be just fine.
âI suspect that long before 2050 such die backs will have already happened. It could wreck our societies.â
As the Nile river, and especially its delta, expanded during âwet centuriesâ, ancient Egyptian population expanded to match. As it shrank during âdry centuriesâ, the population shrank to match.
Other peoples elsewhere â one in South America, another in North â either went extinct or migrated (and became lost to pre-history) such that nothing of them remains except the pre-historic archaeological artifacts.
Economists demand âgrowthâ for their models. But if historical / anthropologic archaeology tells us anything, it says that biology trumps economics.
Back in my âjournalism dazeâ I interviewed Stanford University Professor Paul R. Ehrlich who had just published his best-selling POPULATION BOMB (1968). I was convinced he was right and reviewed it in a magazine with a circulation of 400,000.
In successive years, after his predicted bomb failed to explode on time, the economists roared. He was wrong! He was Uncle Stupidhead.
Prez Ronnie RayGun told us it was Morning in America! If yaâve seen one redwood tree, yaâve seen âem all. Cut âem down! Sell the lumber to Japan for obscene profits! Economic growth will accelerate till the Lord Comes! Which is just around the corner!
But as far as I can tell, Ehrlich made only two mistakes. (1) His predicted catastrophic population reduction too soon. And (2) he failed to predict that in highly developed industrial societies, such as that of northwestern Europe, repro rates would tank.
But now that global warming is weighing in, Prof. Ehrlich is looking more and more like Prof. Einstein.
The planet, with its fragile ecosystems, is only so big. The BIG BUS can only carry so many people. No matter how many multinational mega-giga-tera corps there are employing how many wage-slaves.
@DTPi Okay, good thinking. Now, can you fill me in as to how we know Mike and Kim are wealthy? I suppose it depends on the meaning of âwealthy,â which is variable with where you live, among other things, but Iâve somehow missed the âwealthâ piece as it relates to them.
@gmartin I agree with you that in poverty, physical beauty often seems to fade fast, while those with more money can âbuyâ more âtime.â Iâm just wondering where Mike and Kim fall in the overall spectrum, or more specifically, whether Trudeau has given us any information about their income level. Iâm also pondering how âwealthyâ is defined in general.
They are both white-collar professionals in the tech industry; so I would assume theyâd be pulling down decent salaries. But huge salaries? Any reason to think so?
Sorry, but all I got from that was the BAD grammar. ââŠhas made me a better noticerâŠâ WTH?? Shouldnât it be ââŠhas made me more observantâŠâ ?Trudeau needs to hire on a pro proof-reader.
Basically, they went out on their own years ago, and have very nice home with a view of the mountains near Seattle, so they must be relatively successful. Kid in MIT, no student debtâŠDonât know about .1%, though.
This is pure speculation, but Iâve imagined Mike to be higher than 1%, but lower than 0.1%. He probably CONSIDERS himself to be (upper) Middle Class, and not ârich.â Bernieâs ârich.â
For one thing, however nice his home is, he doesnât appear to need domestic helpâŠ
cool.. new story arc. upcoming new characters. even if it will take a whileâŠ. more fun..and yeah, family tree time should be coming up soon. In a few months. After the twins are born.
Alex needs to consider getting a new hairdoâŠ.this is not becoming to her. At all. Could we get something more flattering forher? I am very happy for her and her young husband, theyare my favorite characters. But it hurts to look at her hair.
Whee! What fun! In truth, population politics is an issue that is much too complex and fraught to get a proper airing in such an ephemeral forum as this. Still, thanks to all, even the occasional troll.
@Arye Uygur Have you ever counted the number of grandparents and step-step-grandparents Alex has? Daisy D. and a mysterious father from Mike, Joanie, Clinton, and Rick from JJ, Kimâs adoptive and birth parents, Zekeâs mother and multiple stepfathers⊠of course, she doesnât know most of them, but that is truly a ridiculous amount.
Linguist about 12 years ago
Yippee ! Before the day is over, someone will turn this into a political diatribe. But before that happens, the thought of Mike as a grandfather is terrific !
trspence about 12 years ago
WOW!!!
annieb1012 about 12 years ago
Ha! I wondered when the next generation would arrive on the scene. This should be good. Bit of a rough road, perhaps, but good.
DylanThomas3.14159 about 12 years ago
Silly me, I didnât know âglowingâ was medically diagnostic of a pregnancy. Does hubby-daddy Toggle know yet?
annieb1012 about 12 years ago
@Linguist " âŠthe thought of Mike as a grandfather is terrific !"*Yes, and Kim as Grandma (!!!) is, too. Toggleâs and Alexâs moms? Interesting.
annieb1012 about 12 years ago
Good night, all.
margueritem about 12 years ago
Hooray!
arye uygur about 12 years ago
We need to make a family tree of the characters who are blood relatives to each other.
ChocolateLady about 12 years ago
Mazal Tov!
YatInExile about 12 years ago
Ho. Ly. Crap.
Rodney99 about 12 years ago
I lived in Nevada for two years. âGlowingâ was NOT something you wanted to be.
Hint: both women AND men were susceptible to this condition.
roctor about 12 years ago
Which is worst? The10 billion people or the suport system?
kjhudlow Premium Member about 12 years ago
Shouldnât Alex finish college and have something of a career first??!! Why is she having a baby right off the bat?! Wasting her life.
SlyMongoose about 12 years ago
Yay! Twins!
celeconecca about 12 years ago
OMG â more characters to rememberâŠ
vwdualnomand about 12 years ago
wow, twins. is there some truth about twins, that one is evil and other is good? or, that they have their own language. or, that they feel the otherâs pain.
rasalom about 12 years ago
@Linguist Itâs Obamaâs/Bushâs fault!!!
IncognitoPenguin about 12 years ago
Hey..wouldnât a great arc be that we get the same panel as above tomorrowâŠonly with Mike and Kim? :)
spooked wolf about 12 years ago
Returning to the comic strip itself: Remember a few months ago how Alex wanted to have a nose more like her BFF than her dadâs? Well what I noticed was not so much a glow as a shorter, slightly less angular nose. So I thought her announcement would be about the schnoz, not a pregnancy.
Also: TWINS??? How are they going to raise them, broke as they are? Egads.
JAPrufrock about 12 years ago
Unfortunately Linguist is correct. Come on GT, stop procreating.
SusanCraig about 12 years ago
what you say? with a name like litter box filler? I donât get itâŠ
Kip W about 12 years ago
Another tragic copy and paste accident. When will people realize the dangers of a full clipboard?
JAPrufrock about 12 years ago
The world canât support the population it has now, never mind the future inexorable increase. All major ecosystems are being degraded at an increasing rate and it is just a matter of time before there is a total gaian collapse. Oh well, itâs been a fun ride. The short happy life of the human race.
cdward about 12 years ago
YouâŠhaveâŠgotâŠ.toâŠ.beâŠkidding.
Gokie5 about 12 years ago
Wowsie! Iâm happy for Alex and Leo (yes, I know itâs just a comic). However, if sheâs anything like me sheâd be the opposite of âglowingâ during the second and third months. (Maybe she is past that now.) On another note, the twinsâ other biological grandpa is Leoâs anonymous father, member of a rock group. They may be really talented little buggers.
IamUnique1 about 12 years ago
Forgive me, I havenât been keeping up. I take it this revelation was unexpected? Iâm not even sure who the father is meant to be, perhaps anonymous sperm donor and conception was via IVF?
l-empress68 about 12 years ago
When I started reading Doonesbury, Mike and DB were still in college. One of us is getting old.
gaebie about 12 years ago
STOP!!! Lets think this out..Knowing GT, and this strip, is âglowingâ and âtwinsâ really about Alex being pregnant (and can she really know itâs twins at this stage?) Or is this reference to something else and a new story line?
mikenisson69 about 12 years ago
The thought of Alex getting all maternal makes me gag . . . all downhill from here . . .
Squoop about 12 years ago
FYI â JJ is Alexâs Mom, not Kim.
jmiel628 about 12 years ago
Oh snap, boys, girls, or both?
Rickapolis about 12 years ago
I remember asking my wife once if a local newscaster didnât look a little different. A few days later she announced she was pregnant. I still laugh a little at that one.
summerdog86 about 12 years ago
And just where are these twins going to fit in the trailer?
montessoriteacher about 12 years ago
GT had twins as well as a singleton in his own family. Of course, they are all grown up now. They say it can be an inherited trait. Maybe one of GTâs own kids is having twins? Or wishful thinking on the part of GT?
montessoriteacher about 12 years ago
âGlowingâ is a rather old-fashioned term for pregnant. I preferred that one over âblooming.â
corzak about 12 years ago
Hereâs an excellent overview of the population issue:National Geographic: Population 7 BillionYes, fertility rates are declining. Young women â given access to education and birth control â behave with sanity and have far fewer children. And I think many (most?) species have a deep instinct to slow reproduction âwhen the pond is full.âNevertheless, the momentum will continue for a couple of decades. And as the Nat Geo article points out, some problems, like climate change, are no longer affected by population numbers.
babka Premium Member about 12 years ago
:0)
ronpolimeni about 12 years ago
And then you have the âChristianâ type who donât believe in any sort of contraception who have 23 kids, have grandchildren older than their youngest kids and own a bus to haul them around.
pearlsarefuzzy about 12 years ago
WTG! Congrats, Alex and Jeff!
kaffekup about 12 years ago
Stay calm; I think Alexander was being satirical. The last sentence was the clue: âHowâs that? That should get it goingâŠâ
Digbe O'Dell about 12 years ago
Congrats to Mr. Trudeau for the introduction of the third generation of our beloved characters!
annieb1012 about 12 years ago
@DTPi âDaddy Mikeâs 0.01%er $$$â Did you mean â1%â?
Llywus about 12 years ago
Cool, another generation! I wonder if Alexâ twins will be quite as âprecociousâ as she was.
pawpawbear about 12 years ago
A good conservation. I agree that the environment is in a bad way. However, we here in the good ole USA have done an awful lot to make our air and water better. But, we have a long way to go. We need to be energy independent but we need to keep working on the environment. I saw and shared an article, on my Facebook page, that exemplifies the dilemna(sp) we are in. While our cities are gaining on air and water quality the citizens of western North Dakota are wrecking the water tables with fracking and the air as they burn off valuable natural gas. This is actually happening all over the country. Wyoming and Pennsylvania come to mind. I have lost family members to cancers that could have been prevented. It is a terrible way to die and, as I said, avoidable. I do not know all the answers and I hope there are people who can solve these problems. OK rant font off.>>We really must have put Tucci out. Havenât seen him today.
pawpawbear about 12 years ago
OH, the article came from NPR.
kaffekup about 12 years ago
âWill the war vet chap be able to cope.âWe all hope so; and with the way heâs dealt with TBI and having ditzy Alex as a bride, Iâm sure he will be just fine.
unca jim about 12 years ago
No sense even remarking here..The crowdâs getting too loud and boisterous.
montessoriteacher about 12 years ago
At 6 week ultrasound appointment, you can find out if you are having twins. Maybe even earlier, if they have another special test nowadaysâŠ
DylanThomas3.14159 about 12 years ago
âI suspect that long before 2050 such die backs will have already happened. It could wreck our societies.â
As the Nile river, and especially its delta, expanded during âwet centuriesâ, ancient Egyptian population expanded to match. As it shrank during âdry centuriesâ, the population shrank to match.
Other peoples elsewhere â one in South America, another in North â either went extinct or migrated (and became lost to pre-history) such that nothing of them remains except the pre-historic archaeological artifacts.
Economists demand âgrowthâ for their models. But if historical / anthropologic archaeology tells us anything, it says that biology trumps economics.
Back in my âjournalism dazeâ I interviewed Stanford University Professor Paul R. Ehrlich who had just published his best-selling POPULATION BOMB (1968). I was convinced he was right and reviewed it in a magazine with a circulation of 400,000.
In successive years, after his predicted bomb failed to explode on time, the economists roared. He was wrong! He was Uncle Stupidhead.
Prez Ronnie RayGun told us it was Morning in America! If yaâve seen one redwood tree, yaâve seen âem all. Cut âem down! Sell the lumber to Japan for obscene profits! Economic growth will accelerate till the Lord Comes! Which is just around the corner!
But as far as I can tell, Ehrlich made only two mistakes. (1) His predicted catastrophic population reduction too soon. And (2) he failed to predict that in highly developed industrial societies, such as that of northwestern Europe, repro rates would tank.
But now that global warming is weighing in, Prof. Ehrlich is looking more and more like Prof. Einstein.
The planet, with its fragile ecosystems, is only so big. The BIG BUS can only carry so many people. No matter how many multinational mega-giga-tera corps there are employing how many wage-slaves.
BIOLOGY TRUMPS ECONOMICS.
annieb1012 about 12 years ago
@DTPi Okay, good thinking. Now, can you fill me in as to how we know Mike and Kim are wealthy? I suppose it depends on the meaning of âwealthy,â which is variable with where you live, among other things, but Iâve somehow missed the âwealthâ piece as it relates to them.
annieb1012 about 12 years ago
@gmartin I agree with you that in poverty, physical beauty often seems to fade fast, while those with more money can âbuyâ more âtime.â Iâm just wondering where Mike and Kim fall in the overall spectrum, or more specifically, whether Trudeau has given us any information about their income level. Iâm also pondering how âwealthyâ is defined in general.
They are both white-collar professionals in the tech industry; so I would assume theyâd be pulling down decent salaries. But huge salaries? Any reason to think so?
Cofyjunky about 12 years ago
Sorry, but all I got from that was the BAD grammar. ââŠhas made me a better noticerâŠâ WTH?? Shouldnât it be ââŠhas made me more observantâŠâ ?Trudeau needs to hire on a pro proof-reader.
kaffekup about 12 years ago
Basically, they went out on their own years ago, and have very nice home with a view of the mountains near Seattle, so they must be relatively successful. Kid in MIT, no student debtâŠDonât know about .1%, though.
kaffekup about 12 years ago
Whatever she says HAS to be smarter than anything youâve EVER said.
edonline about 12 years ago
I wonder if the pregnancy and birth will happen in real time or comic strip time.
fritzoid Premium Member about 12 years ago
This is pure speculation, but Iâve imagined Mike to be higher than 1%, but lower than 0.1%. He probably CONSIDERS himself to be (upper) Middle Class, and not ârich.â Bernieâs ârich.â
For one thing, however nice his home is, he doesnât appear to need domestic helpâŠ
annieb1012 about 12 years ago
@DTPi Exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
lindz.coop Premium Member about 12 years ago
Unfortunately, So True!!
lindz.coop Premium Member about 12 years ago
Re the comic: O..M..G!! Too Funny :)
localhost about 12 years ago
Didnât see THAT coming!
Hunter7 about 12 years ago
cool.. new story arc. upcoming new characters. even if it will take a whileâŠ. more fun..and yeah, family tree time should be coming up soon. In a few months. After the twins are born.
gkid about 12 years ago
Alex needs to consider getting a new hairdoâŠ.this is not becoming to her. At all. Could we get something more flattering forher? I am very happy for her and her young husband, theyare my favorite characters. But it hurts to look at her hair.
Alexander the Good Enough about 12 years ago
Whee! What fun! In truth, population politics is an issue that is much too complex and fraught to get a proper airing in such an ephemeral forum as this. Still, thanks to all, even the occasional troll.
Tigrita about 12 years ago
@Arye Uygur Have you ever counted the number of grandparents and step-step-grandparents Alex has? Daisy D. and a mysterious father from Mike, Joanie, Clinton, and Rick from JJ, Kimâs adoptive and birth parents, Zekeâs mother and multiple stepfathers⊠of course, she doesnât know most of them, but that is truly a ridiculous amount.