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There were lots of great comments yesterday. If you havenāt read them yet, I encourage you to do so. Lots of thoughtful people sounded off, and I especially appreciated the helpful contributions by Chief Patton.I posted some Mrs. Chin Chillar (Notta Fallar) pics yesterday after someone asked about her, and I had no idea they would generate so much discussion, much less a mini-controversy. But since I started that little brouhaha, I thought I would try to put the capper on my comments about Notta with the below pic. Itās a reimagining of Notta that a professional artist (Al Rio) did years ago. I suspect Statonās final colorized version is going to look more like this Notta than Gouldās version, but who knows. At any rate, I think this is a beautiful and fantastic portrayal, one that captures Nottaās amazing sexiness while also respecting Gouldās original portrayal.I expect Joe Staton will amp up Nottaās beauty and sexiness just as this artist did, and just as Staton has already done with Mysta. Looking forward to her reappearance!Also, the following was too big to post, but this is another reimagining of Notta by the same artist:http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1453/nottabeaut.jpg
I had no idea Abner Kadaver was accused of so many murders! This āMr. Kleenā is not only sleazy but also callous. I guess he figures he isnāt being paid enoughā¦.
Re: comments concerning sleazy lawyers yesterday and today, give them a breakā¦ā¦donāt know what the rules are for you guys south of the line, but Iām guessing itās the same as here: a defense lawyer canāt refuse a client, based on his belief that itās a lost case. He is required to give his best to defend even the most heinous villan. If you think about it, you will realise this is the only way all of us have the protection of fair treatmentā¦ā¦.ā¦ā¦I have heard, however, that lawyers have a way of avoiding cases that would dilute their success record by setting the fee exorbitantly highā¦.a āget-lostā fee, if you will.My appologies to the profession for letting the cat out of the bagā¦..
An ethical defense lawyer who is stuck with Kadaver for a client would go to the plea bargain route to get his client life in prison instead of the death penalty. (But the prosecution or judge can refuse the bargain if they want.)
Failing that, trying to drum up some sort of extenuating circumstances, and sowing doubt on the charges you can. Maybe Kleen could get him off five of the thirty murder charges.
But since Kleen isnāt an ethical lawyer, and the objective here isnāt justice or the preservation of the legal system, I suspect as some of you do that Mr. Kadaver is going to be āshot while trying to escape.ā
SDM, its RARE, but it happensā¦ i AGREE with you about the sweatbox storyā¦ i think it was a good storyā¦ with good INTENTIONSā¦ but somehow ended up getting cut shortā¦ not sure if it was by TMSā hamstringing the team or what, but the resolution could have been better. overall it was GOOD, not GREAT.. but it wasnt as terrible as others claim it to be
There is little to add to Chief Pattonās wise insights and important information posted yesterday. The story had some problems, no doubt. The censored panels in the paper suggest there were issues that will remain out of the public sphere. That said, there was a lot to like about the Sweat Box saga: the continued (and delightful) development of Mole, the introduction of Toad, the focus on the WWII internment of Japanese citizens charged with no crimes, and the acknowledgement of gay couples, which allowed us to see a tolerant Tracy.
Despite my disappointment with some elements of the Sweat Box story, I remain immensely impressed with the high caliber work of Team Tracy. The resurrection of the strip remains nothing short of miraculous, the occasional second tier story notwithstanding.
B-bottle, I personally know the lawyer from Austin, Tx who defended Timothy McVeigh and asked him point-blank why he did it. I expected him to say āfor the free publicityā, and there was some of that, but he responded, āto make the State do its jobā. Looking around the world at a lot of 3rd World countries, the State throws people in the pen for whatever reasons they want, and for the most part, political reasons. I see his point. The govt paid $3 M for his defense, and in the eyes of his peers (lawyer circles), he did a bang-up job. He got the Johnny Cochran reputation out of it.
i noticed that nobody commented on the fact that, in the last panelā¦ mr kleen seems to be ātossing kadaverās picture asideā. perhaps this is a bit of foreshadowing for later in the story? could kadaver be the āsacrificial lambā that kleenās benefactors decide they can do withoutā¦ or is it merely an āasideā to show kleenās disdain of kadaver on a personal level and a different KIND of foreshadowing.. as in, kleen and his benefactors have written kadaver off but he will end up surprising them in the end amd POSSIBLY be the only one lefet standing when all is said and done? VERY psychological first salvo on the new story, a ti of the hat to mssrs curtis and staton for conveying so many potential/possible outcomes in six simple panels (todays and yesterdays)
I might have something a little more lively than cocoa. Itās rush hour right now and what a mess. Glad Iām not driving in it. Weāre supposed to get about 8 more inchesāalready have about 4. East Coast to get it tomorrow.
Why a new story line when there were so many loose ends from the previous, ie why was the mayor so anxious to end the investigation? Who were the skeletons recently discovered?Taking lessons from Alley Oop?
No, no, no, do NOT kill Abner Kadaver off! He is easily the best villain Mike and Joe have created; one in the old Gould mold! Have him get that 30 count rolling upwards instead with some diabolical schemeā¦ā¦ā¦but if you want want to to kill kill Double-up offā¦..yessssss! Heās dumbā¦..
SDM, not for nothing.. and i will even admit that i do it myself at times.. you INTENTIONALLY GOAD people into reacting. i dont know WHY, but you do, and much to my dismay, i fall for it often.. hook line and sinker, and allow you to drag me into your realm of back biting and name calling etc. i want EVERYONE that posts on this board to hold me to ONE PARTICULAR THINGā¦from this point on, i ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to even acknowledge that SDM even frequents this board at all. i intend to skip past any and all of his comments and iw ill endeavor to NOT reply to any and all of them form this point forward. iād like to think i am a much more intelligent person than that, and to be truthful.. i AM. IF your opinions are āblastedā SDM, its because youre constantly finding nothing but fault with the strip, constantly degrading readers who think it is a great strip, and constantly posting biting and snarky comments directed at individuals and the creative team (comparing the pace of stories to snails, degrading stories as being ātrainwrecksā etc). last i checked, we were ALL grown adultsā¦ and yes, we are entitled to have our own opinions and the right to voice them, however.. as a wise man once said āif you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at allā. even your āpositive postsā have been made in sarcastic ways and you make no attempts to even TRY to cover them up in any way whatsoever. the sad part is that you in fact DO have a RIDICULOUS amount of knowledge concerning the strip and its rich history, but because the current team is not to your fancy, you repetitively speak in derogatory ways about their work, and unfortunately that āturns people offā to your opinions and your considerable knowledge concerning the strip and its history.
āBout the same thing happened here. I made an āunwiseā comment about the same bridge, and get called out because āsomeā cartoonist claims he was insulted. Like tsull, my lips are zipped from here on. Pretty low blow, though! (Hey, that rhymes!)
Bill Thompson about 12 years ago
Abner Kadaver does not look like the sort of guy who wants to see daylight!
margueritem about 12 years ago
Looks like Abner is a lost cause for Mr. Kleen.
60sFan about 12 years ago
I had heard we might see Abner Kadaver again. Cool! His death trap story a couple years ago was great.
willy007 about 12 years ago
There were lots of great comments yesterday. If you havenāt read them yet, I encourage you to do so. Lots of thoughtful people sounded off, and I especially appreciated the helpful contributions by Chief Patton.I posted some Mrs. Chin Chillar (Notta Fallar) pics yesterday after someone asked about her, and I had no idea they would generate so much discussion, much less a mini-controversy. But since I started that little brouhaha, I thought I would try to put the capper on my comments about Notta with the below pic. Itās a reimagining of Notta that a professional artist (Al Rio) did years ago. I suspect Statonās final colorized version is going to look more like this Notta than Gouldās version, but who knows. At any rate, I think this is a beautiful and fantastic portrayal, one that captures Nottaās amazing sexiness while also respecting Gouldās original portrayal.I expect Joe Staton will amp up Nottaās beauty and sexiness just as this artist did, and just as Staton has already done with Mysta. Looking forward to her reappearance!Also, the following was too big to post, but this is another reimagining of Notta by the same artist:http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1453/nottabeaut.jpg
Jerry1967 about 12 years ago
WOW!!! Willy, I love these, thanks!
Sisyphos about 12 years ago
I had no idea Abner Kadaver was accused of so many murders! This āMr. Kleenā is not only sleazy but also callous. I guess he figures he isnāt being paid enoughā¦.
jonahhex1 about 12 years ago
I like Mr. Kleenās attitude as expressed in the last panelā¦.Kadaver is headed for a life stretch in THE BIG HOUSE.
jonahhex1 about 12 years ago
It would also seem MISTER CRIME is still in businessā¦..wonder if he hooked up with Ms Rize?
coldsooner about 12 years ago
So it looks like weāre going to have ourselves a prison break, āeh boys and girls?
coldsooner about 12 years ago
Blaze Rize, giving ādoughā to his mom? Nice āFlakeyā pun, GM.
yumpinyiminey about 12 years ago
Can Abner gain access to some of those cool smoke bombs that allow him to escape from anywhere?
blunebottle about 12 years ago
Re: comments concerning sleazy lawyers yesterday and today, give them a breakā¦ā¦donāt know what the rules are for you guys south of the line, but Iām guessing itās the same as here: a defense lawyer canāt refuse a client, based on his belief that itās a lost case. He is required to give his best to defend even the most heinous villan. If you think about it, you will realise this is the only way all of us have the protection of fair treatmentā¦ā¦.ā¦ā¦I have heard, however, that lawyers have a way of avoiding cases that would dilute their success record by setting the fee exorbitantly highā¦.a āget-lostā fee, if you will.My appologies to the profession for letting the cat out of the bagā¦..
BellsAndMotley about 12 years ago
O Moon Maid, where art thou?
coldsooner about 12 years ago
RIP Bobby Rogers. We all will āSecond That Emotion.ā Another hall of famer gone. He was 73.
Vista Bill Raley and Cometā¢ about 12 years ago
Good morning everyoneā¦
disheveled top about 12 years ago
murder confessions? dug up. Why would you confess?
Det.DanDone about 12 years ago
From the way it sounds Mr. Kleenās plan will be like the bottle in panel one. Not real easy, but, semi eze.
SKJAM! Premium Member about 12 years ago
An ethical defense lawyer who is stuck with Kadaver for a client would go to the plea bargain route to get his client life in prison instead of the death penalty. (But the prosecution or judge can refuse the bargain if they want.)
Failing that, trying to drum up some sort of extenuating circumstances, and sowing doubt on the charges you can. Maybe Kleen could get him off five of the thirty murder charges.
But since Kleen isnāt an ethical lawyer, and the objective here isnāt justice or the preservation of the legal system, I suspect as some of you do that Mr. Kadaver is going to be āshot while trying to escape.ā
tsull2121 about 12 years ago
SDM, its RARE, but it happensā¦ i AGREE with you about the sweatbox storyā¦ i think it was a good storyā¦ with good INTENTIONSā¦ but somehow ended up getting cut shortā¦ not sure if it was by TMSā hamstringing the team or what, but the resolution could have been better. overall it was GOOD, not GREAT.. but it wasnt as terrible as others claim it to be
Pequod about 12 years ago
There is little to add to Chief Pattonās wise insights and important information posted yesterday. The story had some problems, no doubt. The censored panels in the paper suggest there were issues that will remain out of the public sphere. That said, there was a lot to like about the Sweat Box saga: the continued (and delightful) development of Mole, the introduction of Toad, the focus on the WWII internment of Japanese citizens charged with no crimes, and the acknowledgement of gay couples, which allowed us to see a tolerant Tracy.
Despite my disappointment with some elements of the Sweat Box story, I remain immensely impressed with the high caliber work of Team Tracy. The resurrection of the strip remains nothing short of miraculous, the occasional second tier story notwithstanding.
Morrow Cummings about 12 years ago
B-bottle, I personally know the lawyer from Austin, Tx who defended Timothy McVeigh and asked him point-blank why he did it. I expected him to say āfor the free publicityā, and there was some of that, but he responded, āto make the State do its jobā. Looking around the world at a lot of 3rd World countries, the State throws people in the pen for whatever reasons they want, and for the most part, political reasons. I see his point. The govt paid $3 M for his defense, and in the eyes of his peers (lawyer circles), he did a bang-up job. He got the Johnny Cochran reputation out of it.
DayDay2001 about 12 years ago
I notice the bottle of āSani-Ezeā on Mr. Cleanās desk. I guess the dude is a germophobe. Nice little detail kicked in.
Mikeyj about 12 years ago
Sometimes I wish SDM and Otto would take their hot & heavy bromance elsewhere! lol ;)
tsull2121 about 12 years ago
i noticed that nobody commented on the fact that, in the last panelā¦ mr kleen seems to be ātossing kadaverās picture asideā. perhaps this is a bit of foreshadowing for later in the story? could kadaver be the āsacrificial lambā that kleenās benefactors decide they can do withoutā¦ or is it merely an āasideā to show kleenās disdain of kadaver on a personal level and a different KIND of foreshadowing.. as in, kleen and his benefactors have written kadaver off but he will end up surprising them in the end amd POSSIBLY be the only one lefet standing when all is said and done? VERY psychological first salvo on the new story, a ti of the hat to mssrs curtis and staton for conveying so many potential/possible outcomes in six simple panels (todays and yesterdays)
Ray Toler about 12 years ago
Snow is really coming down in Chicago right now. What a blizzard.
Ray Toler about 12 years ago
I might have something a little more lively than cocoa. Itās rush hour right now and what a mess. Glad Iām not driving in it. Weāre supposed to get about 8 more inchesāalready have about 4. East Coast to get it tomorrow.
tuslog64 about 12 years ago
Why a new story line when there were so many loose ends from the previous, ie why was the mayor so anxious to end the investigation? Who were the skeletons recently discovered?Taking lessons from Alley Oop?
wanewonderful about 12 years ago
abrupt scene shift?!?!?
fredville about 12 years ago
No, no, no, do NOT kill Abner Kadaver off! He is easily the best villain Mike and Joe have created; one in the old Gould mold! Have him get that 30 count rolling upwards instead with some diabolical schemeā¦ā¦ā¦but if you want want to to kill kill Double-up offā¦..yessssss! Heās dumbā¦..
tsull2121 about 12 years ago
SDM, not for nothing.. and i will even admit that i do it myself at times.. you INTENTIONALLY GOAD people into reacting. i dont know WHY, but you do, and much to my dismay, i fall for it often.. hook line and sinker, and allow you to drag me into your realm of back biting and name calling etc. i want EVERYONE that posts on this board to hold me to ONE PARTICULAR THINGā¦from this point on, i ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to even acknowledge that SDM even frequents this board at all. i intend to skip past any and all of his comments and iw ill endeavor to NOT reply to any and all of them form this point forward. iād like to think i am a much more intelligent person than that, and to be truthful.. i AM. IF your opinions are āblastedā SDM, its because youre constantly finding nothing but fault with the strip, constantly degrading readers who think it is a great strip, and constantly posting biting and snarky comments directed at individuals and the creative team (comparing the pace of stories to snails, degrading stories as being ātrainwrecksā etc). last i checked, we were ALL grown adultsā¦ and yes, we are entitled to have our own opinions and the right to voice them, however.. as a wise man once said āif you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at allā. even your āpositive postsā have been made in sarcastic ways and you make no attempts to even TRY to cover them up in any way whatsoever. the sad part is that you in fact DO have a RIDICULOUS amount of knowledge concerning the strip and its rich history, but because the current team is not to your fancy, you repetitively speak in derogatory ways about their work, and unfortunately that āturns people offā to your opinions and your considerable knowledge concerning the strip and its history.
Morrow Cummings about 12 years ago
āBout the same thing happened here. I made an āunwiseā comment about the same bridge, and get called out because āsomeā cartoonist claims he was insulted. Like tsull, my lips are zipped from here on. Pretty low blow, though! (Hey, that rhymes!)