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Substitute Boy Scouts/Brownies for the Church and their leaders for the priests. Then see how long it takes for the police and the justice system to take action against these peadophiles. Congrats on the cartoon Wiley for another example of comedy going where politicians dare not.
HappyChappy, the irony is that Iām a pastor who had to deal with the fallout of the Boy Scout leader of the troop that uses our hall being arrested for pedophilia. Still, the Boy Scouts deal much more quickly and honestly with this issue ā and many denominations (not RC) have adopted their guidelines for child safety because they are so good.
For an organization that is largely run by volunteers, they have their act muchmore together and are much more concerned about protecting their charges than protecting their leadersā posteriors.
cdward: just to let you know: Many of the RC dioceses across the country have tightened the rules for laypeople working with children. There are now mandatory classes to be taken, and people have to get criminal background checks before theyāre allowed to be catechism teachers, lead youth groups, etc. Iām not sure the ordained ones have to go through these steps.
Perhaps they arenāt pedophile suspects, rather the larger argument is surpressing science and education. Galileo, Copernicus and others must be smiling at Wiley now.
Anyone else remember the Satanic Ritual Abuse scandals? They never found evidence of anything but the kids being misled by investigators and I suspect some or a lot of that goes on here, too, along with the sound of the church money gravy train. Figure out the agenda of the media āinvestigatingā allegations with gossip for evidence and the police and authorities like the Roethlesberger DA who released the āevidenceā including the info on what they DIDNāT find who have THEIR agenda and the Church that has THEIRS and then we can talk.
Some of the problem likely does exist and the church is culpable for not dealing with it immediately and getting ahead on investigations since the Catholics have their own staffs to look into the accusations. From what can be gathered there may indeed be enough for the line-up Wiley portrays and thatās about it until the real evidence surfaces.
Interesting that the entire Church is guilty until a few priests are proved innocent. I can hardly blame them for expecting the worst, though I can find fault in not dealing with the worst.
The āchurchā is guilty of protecting these priests. I doubt that their motives were pure - wonder how much the āchurchā rakes in each month worldwide? Wouldnāt want to damage the āholy revenue streamā.
Flagged ninmas, who is apparently the spammer of the day. Same comment in multiple strips.
Hey, iamtxmilady - itās roman numerals, not roman catholic numerals.
cdward - āā¦many denominations (not RC) have adopted their guidelines for child safety because they are so goodā¦ā
The RC dioceses in the US have adopted a strict set of guidelines to respond to allegations of abuse, including notifying law enforcement and removing the accused from assignments pending investigation.
littledutchboy, you asked about the lewreader/joe joust yesterdayā it is confusing because by the time you got to it, lew had pulled his commentāwhich was along the lines of where is joe to explain this comic to us ā so joe took offense and others commented on the comments and the comments to the commentsā¦.
it WAS funny, but I guess lew didnāt want the controversy
āā¦shoot āem all and let God sort āem out.ā
Interesting you should say that: it was a 13th century Catholic that came up with that expression ā well the wording and language was a bit different, but the sentiment was the same.
Wiley could have included a fifth suspect, the one that would have stood out in any other line-up, who doesnāt realize that he may be vindicated by virtue of the others in the line-up
Brilliant cartoon, very sad situation. There are bad people in every institution, and the good people should not have to share the blame. The problem here is that the Church hierarchy tried to duck its responsibility ā and even now the hierarchy seems only slowly and reluctantly to be facing up to the situation.
So many things that are just WRONG in the above commentsā¦ If I started in, GoComics would need to add another terabyte or six of drivesā¦ Folks, PLEASE do some research before you bash someone. The Church has ALWAYS denounced this behavior - although the definition of āchildā has shifted over the centuries. Whatās different NOW is that there are civil criminal penalties that werenāt in place in previous centuriesā¦. to go along with the changing definition of āchildā. Is a 12-year-old a child? was a 12-year-old a child in the 18th Century? The sixth? The first? (Hint: Mary, the Blessed Virgin, is believed to have been in her teens when she bore Jesus.)
I was raised Catholic, even was an altar boy, and no priest ever laid a hand on me. Now Iām devastated, wondering why I wasnāt good enough for them.
Iām in agreement with freeholder, and I canātā¦quiteā¦choose the right way to build up runarās self-esteem without getting busted by the Humorless Squad.
III looks like Cardinal Roger Maphoney. GUILTY AS SIN ITSELF. Covers up for child molesting priests and yet calls the people of Arizona Nazis for passing a law to protect their citizens from violent illegal immigrants. His only concern is the drop in cash flow these aliens bring to the catholic church.
I laughed when I noticed the strip about priests, pope and others with the roman letters/numbers. How brilliant Wiley does the work on that strip? Wiley, you are way too brilliant for that funny strip. Thanks!
By the way, these priests, bishops and others look clean with the halos above their heads, but behind their backs, they are just hypocrites for sexually abusing on the childrens. I donāt like the way they do the harms on the childrens but let God judge on them anyway.
Yes, I agree that there have been many abuses, some recorded and many ignored, in fact there is evidence of many such abuses by churches or other religious organizatons that were kept under wraps to protect themselves and others, (can you say āRich Patronsā?) Kings, Royals and (you fill the blanks) and even today we best remember that the original sin was INVENTED BY THE CHURCH to scare the bleeep of everyone else, But we must also remember that some if at least one person within those church (es) did some good in their lifetime and we know very litlle of them, and they did not expected to be recognized That is called āLove for your Brethrenā
ācdward: just to let you know: Many of the RC dioceses across the country have tightened the rules for laypeople working with children. There are now mandatory classes to be taken, and people have to get criminal background checks before theyāre allowed to be catechism teachers, lead youth groups, etc. Iām not sure the ordained ones have to go through these steps.ā
Yes, we doāif anything, we have even stricter rules now.
It doesnāt matter how many there were or are, for the life of me I canāt figure out why anybody, much less a bishop, would cover up such horrendous crimes. They should have been arrested and tried immediately. No other thought should have crossed anyoneās mind. Itās beyond disgustingā¦..As for the cartoon, we shouldnāt jump to conclusions. Maybe the charge was murderā¦.
Kaero, I was kidding. However, I was all set to write up the scenario as a fake news story and submit it to The Onion, but found out that they donāt accept work from freelancers. That really bothered me.
If they worked in ANY other kind of profession, people would never have even stopped to punish them. They would have been thrown in as much trouble with the law as Goldman Sachs.
It isnāt a good thing that we let religious organizations get away with this stuff. They should be tried in court as any other person would be.
What I have trouble with, is the fact that instead of ex-communication and legal punishment, many were just transferred and continue to abuse children in different locations.
Another fabulous strip Wiley! You go where angels fear to tread.
Radio- Forced sex is rape ā doesnāt matter how old the āchildā is. And when the molestations were taking place ā 40s, 50s, 60s, etc., children were children until age 21.
Thereās one suspect missing in the line-up that would make it even harder to choose the right culprit: the devil- who could tell them apart?. So I would suggest all the above in that case. āBookemā all, Dano!ā.
WoodEye almost 15 years ago
At least they caught some real criminals this timeā¦.
rayannina almost 15 years ago
Too true to be funny ā¦
farflungfloyd almost 15 years ago
Ooooooh, hot button topic. Put āem all in prison, I say. Let the system deal with them.
MeMow_MyCat almost 15 years ago
Nah, I donāt want to feed themā¦shoot āem all and let God sort āem out. They deserve it!
rottenprat almost 15 years ago
Iām so tired of this Too-Big-To-Fail argumentā¦
lazygrazer almost 15 years ago
Looking forward to the comments on your prophesy, Wileyā¦.
Donna Haag almost 15 years ago
Absolutely love the roman catholic numerals.
Allison Nunn Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Wiley is spot on as usual! (complete with the āRomanā numerals!) Love it!!
HappyChappy almost 15 years ago
Substitute Boy Scouts/Brownies for the Church and their leaders for the priests. Then see how long it takes for the police and the justice system to take action against these peadophiles. Congrats on the cartoon Wiley for another example of comedy going where politicians dare not.
grapfhics almost 15 years ago
Itās called āStalling, the Menās Room Game of Lifeā
TheWildSow almost 15 years ago
Brownies are girls, and the leaders must be female.
cdward almost 15 years ago
HappyChappy, the irony is that Iām a pastor who had to deal with the fallout of the Boy Scout leader of the troop that uses our hall being arrested for pedophilia. Still, the Boy Scouts deal much more quickly and honestly with this issue ā and many denominations (not RC) have adopted their guidelines for child safety because they are so good.
For an organization that is largely run by volunteers, they have their act muchmore together and are much more concerned about protecting their charges than protecting their leadersā posteriors.
DolphinGirl78 almost 15 years ago
Good Morning to ALL!!
HidariMak almost 15 years ago
Itāll be a long time coming for this day, as well. Unfortunately, it wonāt be today, but thanks for doing a cartoon that is so relevant.
earodrig Premium Member almost 15 years ago
cdward: just to let you know: Many of the RC dioceses across the country have tightened the rules for laypeople working with children. There are now mandatory classes to be taken, and people have to get criminal background checks before theyāre allowed to be catechism teachers, lead youth groups, etc. Iām not sure the ordained ones have to go through these steps.
Potrzebie almost 15 years ago
Perhaps they arenāt pedophile suspects, rather the larger argument is surpressing science and education. Galileo, Copernicus and others must be smiling at Wiley now.
freeholder1 almost 15 years ago
Anyone else remember the Satanic Ritual Abuse scandals? They never found evidence of anything but the kids being misled by investigators and I suspect some or a lot of that goes on here, too, along with the sound of the church money gravy train. Figure out the agenda of the media āinvestigatingā allegations with gossip for evidence and the police and authorities like the Roethlesberger DA who released the āevidenceā including the info on what they DIDNāT find who have THEIR agenda and the Church that has THEIRS and then we can talk.
Some of the problem likely does exist and the church is culpable for not dealing with it immediately and getting ahead on investigations since the Catholics have their own staffs to look into the accusations. From what can be gathered there may indeed be enough for the line-up Wiley portrays and thatās about it until the real evidence surfaces.
Interesting that the entire Church is guilty until a few priests are proved innocent. I can hardly blame them for expecting the worst, though I can find fault in not dealing with the worst.
ChazNCenTex almost 15 years ago
Very cogent cartoon.
The āchurchā is guilty of protecting these priests. I doubt that their motives were pure - wonder how much the āchurchā rakes in each month worldwide? Wouldnāt want to damage the āholy revenue streamā.
rmbdot almost 15 years ago
Flagged ninmas, who is apparently the spammer of the day. Same comment in multiple strips.
Hey, iamtxmilady - itās roman numerals, not roman catholic numerals.
cdward - āā¦many denominations (not RC) have adopted their guidelines for child safety because they are so goodā¦ā
The RC dioceses in the US have adopted a strict set of guidelines to respond to allegations of abuse, including notifying law enforcement and removing the accused from assignments pending investigation.
Nighthawks Premium Member almost 15 years ago
littledutchboy, you asked about the lewreader/joe joust yesterdayā it is confusing because by the time you got to it, lew had pulled his commentāwhich was along the lines of where is joe to explain this comic to us ā so joe took offense and others commented on the comments and the comments to the commentsā¦. it WAS funny, but I guess lew didnāt want the controversy
brewwitch almost 15 years ago
MeMow_MyCat said,
āā¦shoot āem all and let God sort āem out.ā
Interesting you should say that: it was a 13th century Catholic that came up with that expression ā well the wording and language was a bit different, but the sentiment was the same.
DevXIII almost 15 years ago
@rayannnina
Indeed..
palos almost 15 years ago
Wiley could have included a fifth suspect, the one that would have stood out in any other line-up, who doesnāt realize that he may be vindicated by virtue of the others in the line-up
i_am_the_jam almost 15 years ago
And then there are the RCCās coverups in Mexicoā¦
ninmas almost 15 years ago
āall sanity is lost.ā
lonecat almost 15 years ago
Brilliant cartoon, very sad situation. There are bad people in every institution, and the good people should not have to share the blame. The problem here is that the Church hierarchy tried to duck its responsibility ā and even now the hierarchy seems only slowly and reluctantly to be facing up to the situation.
RadioTom almost 15 years ago
So many things that are just WRONG in the above commentsā¦ If I started in, GoComics would need to add another terabyte or six of drivesā¦ Folks, PLEASE do some research before you bash someone. The Church has ALWAYS denounced this behavior - although the definition of āchildā has shifted over the centuries. Whatās different NOW is that there are civil criminal penalties that werenāt in place in previous centuriesā¦. to go along with the changing definition of āchildā. Is a 12-year-old a child? was a 12-year-old a child in the 18th Century? The sixth? The first? (Hint: Mary, the Blessed Virgin, is believed to have been in her teens when she bore Jesus.)
cmugnier almost 15 years ago
Letās see a similar jab at āThe Prophet,ā eh? The Catholics wonāt make a death threat, but guess who will?
Hmmmmm?
I do remember the one about the the Devil, the homicide bomber & the virgins with PMS, but how about a zinger on the REAL thing?
runar almost 15 years ago
I was raised Catholic, even was an altar boy, and no priest ever laid a hand on me. Now Iām devastated, wondering why I wasnāt good enough for them.
Kaero almost 15 years ago
Iām in agreement with freeholder, and I canātā¦quiteā¦choose the right way to build up runarās self-esteem without getting busted by the Humorless Squad.
Can't Sleep almost 15 years ago
YES!
Brilliant cartoon and commentary!
worldisacomic almost 15 years ago
III looks like Cardinal Roger Maphoney. GUILTY AS SIN ITSELF. Covers up for child molesting priests and yet calls the people of Arizona Nazis for passing a law to protect their citizens from violent illegal immigrants. His only concern is the drop in cash flow these aliens bring to the catholic church.
Jaroca2 almost 15 years ago
be preparedā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦
The BSA (Biggest Shame in America)
Wildmustang1262 almost 15 years ago
I laughed when I noticed the strip about priests, pope and others with the roman letters/numbers. How brilliant Wiley does the work on that strip? Wiley, you are way too brilliant for that funny strip. Thanks!
By the way, these priests, bishops and others look clean with the halos above their heads, but behind their backs, they are just hypocrites for sexually abusing on the childrens. I donāt like the way they do the harms on the childrens but let God judge on them anyway.
interplanetarycop almost 15 years ago
the Devil made me do it.
ninmas almost 15 years ago
rmbdot, you could try to figure out what my post means instead of just flagging them. there is a reason why iām doing this.
sufamelico almost 15 years ago
Yes, I agree that there have been many abuses, some recorded and many ignored, in fact there is evidence of many such abuses by churches or other religious organizatons that were kept under wraps to protect themselves and others, (can you say āRich Patronsā?) Kings, Royals and (you fill the blanks) and even today we best remember that the original sin was INVENTED BY THE CHURCH to scare the bleeep of everyone else, But we must also remember that some if at least one person within those church (es) did some good in their lifetime and we know very litlle of them, and they did not expected to be recognized That is called āLove for your Brethrenā
bmonk almost 15 years ago
earodrig said, about 8 hours ago
ācdward: just to let you know: Many of the RC dioceses across the country have tightened the rules for laypeople working with children. There are now mandatory classes to be taken, and people have to get criminal background checks before theyāre allowed to be catechism teachers, lead youth groups, etc. Iām not sure the ordained ones have to go through these steps.ā
Yes, we doāif anything, we have even stricter rules now.
Varnes almost 15 years ago
It doesnāt matter how many there were or are, for the life of me I canāt figure out why anybody, much less a bishop, would cover up such horrendous crimes. They should have been arrested and tried immediately. No other thought should have crossed anyoneās mind. Itās beyond disgustingā¦..As for the cartoon, we shouldnāt jump to conclusions. Maybe the charge was murderā¦.
marvee almost 15 years ago
Glad to hear it bmonk. The problem begins in seminary admissions and training.
Mythreesons almost 15 years ago
Putting the really big hat on number III was brilliant.
runar almost 15 years ago
Kaero, I was kidding. However, I was all set to write up the scenario as a fake news story and submit it to The Onion, but found out that they donāt accept work from freelancers. That really bothered me.
CatComixzStudios almost 15 years ago
If they worked in ANY other kind of profession, people would never have even stopped to punish them. They would have been thrown in as much trouble with the law as Goldman Sachs.
It isnāt a good thing that we let religious organizations get away with this stuff. They should be tried in court as any other person would be.
MatureCanadian almost 15 years ago
What I have trouble with, is the fact that instead of ex-communication and legal punishment, many were just transferred and continue to abuse children in different locations.
Another fabulous strip Wiley! You go where angels fear to tread.
Siberman almost 15 years ago
Sorry dude. The AOG split off from mainstream Pentecostalism.
lindz.coop Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Radio- Forced sex is rape ā doesnāt matter how old the āchildā is. And when the molestations were taking place ā 40s, 50s, 60s, etc., children were children until age 21.
Sluffo Premium Member almost 15 years ago
So our govt. in the form of the local draft board sent āchildrenā to experience the horrors of war all those years?
HappyChappy almost 15 years ago
Hey Wiley, looks like you really āput the cat among the pigeonsā this time. Fantastic cartoon strip by the way. Never miss it myself.
Jumpstart almost 15 years ago
Thereās one suspect missing in the line-up that would make it even harder to choose the right culprit: the devil- who could tell them apart?. So I would suggest all the above in that case. āBookemā all, Dano!ā.