Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for April 27, 2010

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    WoodEye  over 14 years ago

    At least they caught some real criminals this time….

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    rayannina  over 14 years ago

    Too true to be funny …

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    farflungfloyd  over 14 years ago

    Ooooooh, hot button topic. Put ‘em all in prison, I say. Let the system deal with them.

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    MeMow_MyCat  over 14 years ago

    Nah, I don’t want to feed them…shoot ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out. They deserve it!

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    rottenprat  over 14 years ago

    I’m so tired of this Too-Big-To-Fail argument…

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    lazygrazer  over 14 years ago

    Looking forward to the comments on your prophesy, Wiley….

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    Donna Haag  over 14 years ago

    Absolutely love the roman catholic numerals.

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    Allison Nunn Premium Member over 14 years ago

    Wiley is spot on as usual! (complete with the “Roman” numerals!) Love it!!

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    HappyChappy  over 14 years ago

    Substitute Boy Scouts/Brownies for the Church and their leaders for the priests. Then see how long it takes for the police and the justice system to take action against these peadophiles. Congrats on the cartoon Wiley for another example of comedy going where politicians dare not.

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    grapfhics  over 14 years ago

    It’s called “Stalling, the Men’s Room Game of Life”

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    TheWildSow  over 14 years ago

    Brownies are girls, and the leaders must be female.

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    cdward  over 14 years ago

    HappyChappy, the irony is that I’m a pastor who had to deal with the fallout of the Boy Scout leader of the troop that uses our hall being arrested for pedophilia. Still, the Boy Scouts deal much more quickly and honestly with this issue – and many denominations (not RC) have adopted their guidelines for child safety because they are so good.

    For an organization that is largely run by volunteers, they have their act muchmore together and are much more concerned about protecting their charges than protecting their leaders’ posteriors.

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    DolphinGirl78  over 14 years ago

    Good Morning to ALL!!

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    HidariMak  over 14 years ago

    It’ll be a long time coming for this day, as well. Unfortunately, it won’t be today, but thanks for doing a cartoon that is so relevant.

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    earodrig Premium Member over 14 years ago

    cdward: just to let you know: Many of the RC dioceses across the country have tightened the rules for laypeople working with children. There are now mandatory classes to be taken, and people have to get criminal background checks before they’re allowed to be catechism teachers, lead youth groups, etc. I’m not sure the ordained ones have to go through these steps.

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    Potrzebie  over 14 years ago

    Perhaps they aren’t pedophile suspects, rather the larger argument is surpressing science and education. Galileo, Copernicus and others must be smiling at Wiley now.

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    freeholder1  over 14 years ago

    Anyone else remember the Satanic Ritual Abuse scandals? They never found evidence of anything but the kids being misled by investigators and I suspect some or a lot of that goes on here, too, along with the sound of the church money gravy train. Figure out the agenda of the media “investigating” allegations with gossip for evidence and the police and authorities like the Roethlesberger DA who released the “evidence” including the info on what they DIDN’T find who have THEIR agenda and the Church that has THEIRS and then we can talk.

    Some of the problem likely does exist and the church is culpable for not dealing with it immediately and getting ahead on investigations since the Catholics have their own staffs to look into the accusations. From what can be gathered there may indeed be enough for the line-up Wiley portrays and that’s about it until the real evidence surfaces.

    Interesting that the entire Church is guilty until a few priests are proved innocent. I can hardly blame them for expecting the worst, though I can find fault in not dealing with the worst.

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    ChazNCenTex  over 14 years ago

    Very cogent cartoon.

    The “church” is guilty of protecting these priests. I doubt that their motives were pure - wonder how much the ‘church’ rakes in each month worldwide? Wouldn’t want to damage the ‘holy revenue stream’.

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    rmbdot  over 14 years ago

    Flagged ninmas, who is apparently the spammer of the day. Same comment in multiple strips.

    Hey, iamtxmilady - it’s roman numerals, not roman catholic numerals.

    cdward - “…many denominations (not RC) have adopted their guidelines for child safety because they are so good…”

    The RC dioceses in the US have adopted a strict set of guidelines to respond to allegations of abuse, including notifying law enforcement and removing the accused from assignments pending investigation.

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    Nighthawks Premium Member over 14 years ago

    littledutchboy, you asked about the lewreader/joe joust yesterday– it is confusing because by the time you got to it, lew had pulled his comment–which was along the lines of where is joe to explain this comic to us — so joe took offense and others commented on the comments and the comments to the comments…. it WAS funny, but I guess lew didn’t want the controversy

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    brewwitch  over 14 years ago

    MeMow_MyCat said,

    “…shoot ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out.”

    Interesting you should say that: it was a 13th century Catholic that came up with that expression – well the wording and language was a bit different, but the sentiment was the same.

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    DevXIII  over 14 years ago

    @rayannnina

    Indeed..

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    palos  over 14 years ago

    Wiley could have included a fifth suspect, the one that would have stood out in any other line-up, who doesn’t realize that he may be vindicated by virtue of the others in the line-up

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    i_am_the_jam  over 14 years ago

    And then there are the RCC’s coverups in Mexico…

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    ninmas  over 14 years ago

    “all sanity is lost.”

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    lonecat  over 14 years ago

    Brilliant cartoon, very sad situation. There are bad people in every institution, and the good people should not have to share the blame. The problem here is that the Church hierarchy tried to duck its responsibility – and even now the hierarchy seems only slowly and reluctantly to be facing up to the situation.

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    RadioTom  over 14 years ago

    So many things that are just WRONG in the above comments… If I started in, GoComics would need to add another terabyte or six of drives… Folks, PLEASE do some research before you bash someone. The Church has ALWAYS denounced this behavior - although the definition of “child” has shifted over the centuries. What’s different NOW is that there are civil criminal penalties that weren’t in place in previous centuries…. to go along with the changing definition of “child”. Is a 12-year-old a child? was a 12-year-old a child in the 18th Century? The sixth? The first? (Hint: Mary, the Blessed Virgin, is believed to have been in her teens when she bore Jesus.)

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    cmugnier  over 14 years ago

    Let’s see a similar jab at “The Prophet,” eh? The Catholics won’t make a death threat, but guess who will?

    Hmmmmm?

    I do remember the one about the the Devil, the homicide bomber & the virgins with PMS, but how about a zinger on the REAL thing?

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    runar  over 14 years ago

    I was raised Catholic, even was an altar boy, and no priest ever laid a hand on me. Now I’m devastated, wondering why I wasn’t good enough for them.

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    Kaero  over 14 years ago

    I’m in agreement with freeholder, and I can’t…quite…choose the right way to build up runar’s self-esteem without getting busted by the Humorless Squad.

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    Can't Sleep  over 14 years ago

    YES!

    Brilliant cartoon and commentary!

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    worldisacomic  over 14 years ago

    III looks like Cardinal Roger Maphoney. GUILTY AS SIN ITSELF. Covers up for child molesting priests and yet calls the people of Arizona Nazis for passing a law to protect their citizens from violent illegal immigrants. His only concern is the drop in cash flow these aliens bring to the catholic church.

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    Jaroca2  over 14 years ago

    be prepared………………

    The BSA (Biggest Shame in America)

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    Wildmustang1262  over 14 years ago

    I laughed when I noticed the strip about priests, pope and others with the roman letters/numbers. How brilliant Wiley does the work on that strip? Wiley, you are way too brilliant for that funny strip. Thanks!

    By the way, these priests, bishops and others look clean with the halos above their heads, but behind their backs, they are just hypocrites for sexually abusing on the childrens. I don’t like the way they do the harms on the childrens but let God judge on them anyway.

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    interplanetarycop  over 14 years ago

    the Devil made me do it.

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    ninmas  over 14 years ago

    rmbdot, you could try to figure out what my post means instead of just flagging them. there is a reason why i’m doing this.

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    sufamelico  over 14 years ago

    Yes, I agree that there have been many abuses, some recorded and many ignored, in fact there is evidence of many such abuses by churches or other religious organizatons that were kept under wraps to protect themselves and others, (can you say “Rich Patrons”?) Kings, Royals and (you fill the blanks) and even today we best remember that the original sin was INVENTED BY THE CHURCH to scare the bleeep of everyone else, But we must also remember that some if at least one person within those church (es) did some good in their lifetime and we know very litlle of them, and they did not expected to be recognized That is called “Love for your Brethren”

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    bmonk  over 14 years ago

    earodrig said, about 8 hours ago

    cdward: just to let you know: Many of the RC dioceses across the country have tightened the rules for laypeople working with children. There are now mandatory classes to be taken, and people have to get criminal background checks before they’re allowed to be catechism teachers, lead youth groups, etc. I’m not sure the ordained ones have to go through these steps.”

    Yes, we do–if anything, we have even stricter rules now.

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    Varnes  over 14 years ago

    It doesn’t matter how many there were or are, for the life of me I can’t figure out why anybody, much less a bishop, would cover up such horrendous crimes. They should have been arrested and tried immediately. No other thought should have crossed anyone’s mind. It’s beyond disgusting…..As for the cartoon, we shouldn’t jump to conclusions. Maybe the charge was murder….

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    marvee  over 14 years ago

    Glad to hear it bmonk. The problem begins in seminary admissions and training.

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    Mythreesons  over 14 years ago

    Putting the really big hat on number III was brilliant.

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    runar  over 14 years ago

    Kaero, I was kidding. However, I was all set to write up the scenario as a fake news story and submit it to The Onion, but found out that they don’t accept work from freelancers. That really bothered me.

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    CatComixzStudios  over 14 years ago

    If they worked in ANY other kind of profession, people would never have even stopped to punish them. They would have been thrown in as much trouble with the law as Goldman Sachs.

    It isn’t a good thing that we let religious organizations get away with this stuff. They should be tried in court as any other person would be.

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    MatureCanadian  over 14 years ago

    What I have trouble with, is the fact that instead of ex-communication and legal punishment, many were just transferred and continue to abuse children in different locations.

    Another fabulous strip Wiley! You go where angels fear to tread.

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    Siberman  over 14 years ago

    Sorry dude. The AOG split off from mainstream Pentecostalism.

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    lindz.coop Premium Member over 14 years ago

    Radio- Forced sex is rape – doesn’t matter how old the “child” is. And when the molestations were taking place – 40s, 50s, 60s, etc., children were children until age 21.

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    Sluffo Premium Member over 14 years ago

    So our govt. in the form of the local draft board sent “children” to experience the horrors of war all those years?

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    HappyChappy  over 14 years ago

    Hey Wiley, looks like you really “put the cat among the pigeons” this time. Fantastic cartoon strip by the way. Never miss it myself.

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    Jumpstart  over 14 years ago

    There’s one suspect missing in the line-up that would make it even harder to choose the right culprit: the devil- who could tell them apart?. So I would suggest all the above in that case. “Bookem’ all, Dano!”.

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