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Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for January 26, 2016
Transcript:
So what're ya hopin' to gain by occupyin' a fed'ral facility? t' force the guv'ments hand! Fahse theah hand about what? Over reach of fed'rul authority in takin' what the almighty ordained as belongin' to us!! Ok... I'm lost heah.. It means he doesn't want to pay any taxes You make it sound a lot less noble when you summarize it... oh
Varnes about 9 years ago
Heâs a member of Yaâll Queda
Pointspread about 9 years ago
I think she has him figured out.
The Old Wolf about 9 years ago
âOh, and they donât want to pay taxes. Ever.â
Defective about 9 years ago
Not to start a holy war, but Jesus said âGive back to Caesar what is Caesarâs and to God what is Godâs.â in reference to this exact thing. Money belongs to people, not God.
tripwire45 about 9 years ago
While I think the actual people involved in the incident this comic strip is based on have overplayed their hand and need to give up, please donât believe that the federal government would never, ever do anything wrong.
lovelandclay Premium Member about 9 years ago
I get what the artist is trying to do, but his heavy liberal bias shines through and kills the joke for reasonable minded readers. This topic is just not funny. If you know the facts of the story youâll see what I mean.
Aaberon about 9 years ago
Yaâll Queda, Vanilla ISIS: Iâm SO impressed with quick wit and twisted humor.
gmorse76 about 9 years ago
Oh, itâs noble; very noble. And moral.
Linguist about 9 years ago
Virgil Vigilante wants a free home on the range â probably near Buffalo, Rome, or points west of Maine.As weâd say in Northern Arizona: That cowboyâs all hat and no horse !
Tom about 9 years ago
Itâs about paying outrageous levels of taxes so that politicians can use that money to buy themselves votes. Wiley is a typical liberal who has to hyperbolize everything.
puddlesplatt about 9 years ago
minds me of the poor land our guv-ment, gave to our breathen Indians
Joken' about 9 years ago
GO HOME DON QUXIOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rcerinys701 about 9 years ago
If I remember the article correctly they want to let in loggers and more cattle than the land can support. The park already has leased land for grazing. I think there is also some miners that want in on this debacle.
Banjo Gordy Premium Member about 9 years ago
Love the word âcowaliphateâ, especially when spell check puts a red line under the spelling! Funny!
vwdualnomand about 9 years ago
are these the same jamokes who complain about govât, but are on govât assistance and aid? who has postal service deliver and receive packages and letters? who receive social security, farm subsidies, and 93% discount on grazing fees? who havenât paid any of their back taxes or back fees for decades? and, yet they deride the poor and minorities who are on govât assistance. and, no mention of corporations who are on govât assistance.
Dr_Zinj about 9 years ago
By the way, Iâm not too happy about paying taxes either. Especially since I just did my preliminary figures and itâs saying I owe another $2600 for the year.
euthuno about 9 years ago
Oregon is about the arrest of ranchers starting a back fire to protect their property from a huge blaze and charging them with terrorism.
strictures about 9 years ago
They just donât want to pay the incredibly cheap grazing fee of $1.69 per animal per month or a grand total of $20.28 per year for each cow if they graze on open range all year & few do.So 100 cattle would be maybe $1000 â $1500 a year. That far cheaper than buying hay or alfalfa!
dabugger about 9 years ago
Gimme, gimme, taking and showing off their arrogance revealing their lack of principles. Their only solution is one of occupying and stealing
nosirrom about 9 years ago
Theyâre just business men who are trying to MEAT a market demand for FREE RANGE BEEF.
JanLC about 9 years ago
And you see how well it is working in Oregon.
Red Ruffensor about 9 years ago
If you donât wish to pay taxes, feel free to exit civilization.
euthuno about 9 years ago
You all need to know what Oregon is really about.Here their U.S. Congressional Representative lays out the history of the ranchers versus the Bureau of Land Management.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcYg1f3NERc
euthuno about 9 years ago
And Wiley Miller is complicit with the media non-coverage in trying to skew the news to the liberal perspective â which starts with old white guys being angry, racist, homophobes who have no idea the wonder govât can do for you via Socialism.
whiteaj about 9 years ago
That land belongs to the STATE, not the Feds.
Dtroutma about 9 years ago
1. These idiots at Malheure are NOT Oregonians, theyâre invaders from Nevada, Arizona and other parts.
2. They want all subsidies, but not taxes; BLM grazing $1.35 per AUM, if on private land $10-20 per AUM for equal development and forage. (In New Mexico as one guys example, the forage is so bad because of overgrazing for decades, he can only get 66 cows on 33,000 acres!)
3. After more than three decades working for NPS and BLM, Iâve dealt with good publics, and quite a few jerks like the Bundys and Hammonds, and donât forget the miners who get BILLIONS of dollars worth of minerals for a couple hundred dollars, or oil and gas folks who get their product for less than 10% of fair market value as well. Federal land resources, thanks to Congresses over the two centuries, ARE the pot (literally) of gold at the end of the rainbow for the folks with the most lobbyists!
4. The public domain has NEVER belonged to anyone but the taxpayers, the âgovernmentâ. (Nevada REFUSED to accept over 90% of the land they were offered on entering the union!!) Other public lands are to be managed for the benefit of all citizen taxpayers, thatâs what the Constitution actually says. The morons (actually pretty smart thieves) carry the Constitution in their breast pockets, but have NEVER READ IT!
5. Hmm, Ammon Bundy by the way runs a truck maintenance business, with federal small business loans, and isnât even entitled to wear that big âcabouyâ hat. Heâs Captain Eddy with a pistol and a pickup. His dad is more Clyde Barrow than Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns.
Sorry to go on, but the story is longer, and Wiley has UNDERSTATED the greed of these clowns and others who want to steal the public lands, National Parks, and Refuges from the real owners, the Taxpayers.
As another example; the Delaware North Corp. is now claiming they âownâ the trademark names of all the most loved features in Yosemite, like the Ahwahne hotel, and are demanding YOU the government, the taxpayers and users of YOUR public land, pay THEM for the use of place names they only rented as concession operators, paying nearly no actual fees, for years!
Go get âem Wiley, theyâre more disgusting, and sadly funny, than youâve shown in these last two âtoons!
Dtroutma about 9 years ago
BTW; âautocorrectâ really sucks, and makes proofreading even more difficult for old farts, so sorry for any spelling errors I missed because of the âhelpâ it provides.
Wiley creator about 9 years ago
I guess this needs to be clarified for some here.
1. This is NOT an editorial cartoon, it is topical humor. Yes, there is a fine line there, but a distinct line nonetheless, and done no differently than any of my other cartoons.
2. This series is not ABOUT the events in Oregon. If it was, I would have specified it as such. This series was done several weeks ago and I had no idea what would be going on with it this week. This is simply a satire on the MINDSET that produces such events, of self-styled âmilitiasâ, who are always comprised of angry White males pretending to be super-patriots, but are really only trying to get out of paying taxes.
3. A satirist can assess how well the work is on target by how loudly those who identify with the target yell. You guys are very loud today. Thank you!
Godfreydaniel about 9 years ago
Theoretically (and, yeah, I know itâs only theoreticallyâŠ..), federal land belongs to the people and is only administered by the government. So if you take over federal land youâre (theoretically) stealing from the taxpayers, not the âevil wicked government.â
Godfreydaniel about 9 years ago
@WileyWe always appreciate hearing from you, even though you might well feel that youâd rather let your cartoons speak for themselves. Of course, a satiristâs work is never doneâŠâŠ..
Dtroutma about 9 years ago
Wiley: I appreciate your comment on âgenericâ characters, and attempted to add just a few examples of others as egregious (anonymously and not). Satire is a difficult rope to walk, and those most rightfully âoffendedâ are first to make it the noose for their âdefenseâ.
Pointspread about 9 years ago
I thought Bundy sold shoes & lived in ChicagoâŠ
mr_sherman Premium Member about 9 years ago
This IS funny, including the comments.
evoroadster Premium Member about 9 years ago
The land in question belongs to the people of the United States. It is not there for a the select few to profit from. Fees are charged which goes to managing the land in question for all of us.
Moore 1 about 9 years ago
Huh, did not the the native Indians own that land??? gosh dam I going to get some weapons take back my granddad land. back home in Europe, opps that how WW 2 started ,
masterchip about 9 years ago
They want the government to give it back to the people they forced out. The white people they forced out. Funny how they forget about the Indian people they killed to get it.
GiantShetlandPony about 9 years ago
Mark_S your answer lies in the last several days of comments. Big difference.
route66paul about 9 years ago
While I am sympathetic to their cause, how much value is the grazing land? If they had to buy feed how much more would it cost. The goverment needs to charge somthing, after all the ranchers get the profit, but how much is correct?
GiantShetlandPony about 9 years ago
Just going to do one more long post, rather than address individuals. Not sure why, as I doubt this will sway anyone and not likely to change the world in a comic comment section, but oh, heck, Iâve got a cold and some time to kill. First: Wiley! Your not psychic? Thanks for the great comics,especially the ones with Lucy. :D And yes, these yahoos and situations are not new. This one has received more attention than most. Memory time.When I was in basic training at Lackland AFB we evacuated a building due to a bomb threat. The threat was made when a recruit was being removed from service upon discovery that he was part of some Nazi group. Yeah, sadly they are still around, but thankfully not welcome in the USA military. Of course, he threatened a bomb and we had to go sit outside for a bit. There was no bomb, but Iâm sure it made him feel tough or whatever for a moment or two.BTW, most of these guys likely canât join the military, because of ties to groups like this. Any that are in the military, may have put those careers in jeopardy, as this action from a military member can be viewed as treason and perhaps a few other charges as well. Any vets or retired military there should be ashamed of themselves.About the jerks in Oregon, since that is the direction this cartoon comment section has taken.The real story.As for the man and son who are in prison, where they should be They were not doing a control burn to maintain, preserve, or manage the land. They were trying to increase the grazing land by burning down the forest. Which of course, got out of control, nearly killed one of his sons (the one not in jail) and had the potential of killing the first responders that had to risk their lives to put it out. At tax payer expense.The terrorists. As for those yoyoâs in Oregon, they donât want to be martyrs. They are cowards hiding behind their own children. They want their photo shoot with their guns, pretending to be tough. âLook we held off the USA government..look there I am in the paperâŠâ. which, OK, they mostly sat in hotels and took down our license plates, photos to identify them with later, etc.â Seriously, are any of these guys on disability? Unemployment, Welfare? Who has time for this nonsense? Did you see that video of that loser explaining to his son that he couldnât be with him Christmas because heâs such a great patriot? You know, private video that he posted for the world to see, because of his delusions of grandeur. This man and his little buddies are not patriots. They are closer to being Islamic State Insurgents than patriots. Sorry kid, your dad missed Christmas because heâs crazy.. As for the reality, their problem isnât the one they sell it to be, the fees they pay for grazing are so ridiculously minimal itâs not funny. Unless you are like Bundy and just stop paying. Why his non payment was allowed to go so long, should be investigated in itself. As for the federal land and buildings they are vandalizing and looting, that is owned by all Americans. The Government does not own it, we do. The government has the responsibility and authority to manage it, make rules for use, and keep thugs like these guys from destroying it. In fact, the majority of the people from the town near the facility are not happy with these guys at all.Last. for now. The Dumb and Dumber Bundy crew is wracking up a hell of a tax bill that we are all paying for, so when this is over, arrests better be made, jail time spent, and reparations best be paid by this group when all is said and done. If not, there will be no end to this kind of nonsense.Will come back later for the"I know you are, but what am I?" non arguments that are likely to follow from some Good thing I do this for the humor, not because I think I can change the world from a comic strip comment section. BTW, Iâm sick, which is the only reason Iâve spent way too much time on this. ;)
K M about 9 years ago
And whatâs wrong with trying to reduce the bite taken by our immoral, tyrannical government?
lindz.coop Premium Member about 9 years ago
Maybe less noble, but sheâs right. The latest martyr wannabes looking for their 15 minutes of fame. If the land is to be âgiven backâ to itâs rightful owners, that would probably be the Native Americans who were there first.
Say What? Premium Member about 9 years ago
This just in: Ammon Bundy and multiple other militants arrested after shootout with FBI. Two militants reportedly shot, one of them dead. Details are still coming in.
Say What? Premium Member about 9 years ago
Given the news, I imagine this plot of the comic will continue for the remainder of the week as cartoonists usually draw these comics multiple weeks in advance.
GiantShetlandPony about 9 years ago
If I remember right the ATF was in charge at Waco, not the FBI.
BRI-NO-MITE!! Premium Member about 9 years ago
âRender unto CaesarâŠâ