Not fair comparing Adam’s post to the modern VP position. Adams was the opposing presidential candidate, so one would expect the president to be wary of delegating any tasks. Modern VPs are from the presidents party and (presumably) share the same platform. I also see Harris as being groomed for the top spot in 2024.
Too bad the U.S Vice President is seen as the “donut” spare tire. Certainly, that is true of most recent Republican Vice Presidents: Agnew, Rockefeller, Quayle, Cheney, potentially Palin (!!!), Pence. All except Bush. The Vice President is not a toy / No, my boy — not a toy.
Re: P51Strega above: VP was opposing presidential candidate.
One of a handful of things in the sausage that is our Constitution that did not make sense.
Recap: Your VP was the man who was dead set against everything you stood for as you ran for office. Where’s the synergy in that?
Add to that: An Electoral College to select the president. In its day it might have made sense, but today, first by tradition, now by Supreme Court decision, merely a rubber stamp gerrymander (as in, how dare a delegate to the EC vote his conscience).
While we’re at it – why a “state” has more importance that people within that “state” – from the county that is Rhode Island to the vast expanse of Wyoming, with less population than the city of Denver, let alone Cook County, Illinois.
To the rights of a “well-regulated” militia, a militia that was never defined, that ended up being the religion of gun ownership that has defied any attempt to reign in gun violence. (And don’t use Chicago as an example of “failed” gun laws – the only failure there is Chicago’s border with not one but two states that make it easy to shuttle around Chicago’s gun laws – thanks to no national gun regulation policy)
I could go on and on and on. But I think I’ll stop here for now.
I doubt Harris will be sidelined as VP. I believe she will be actively engaged as much as possible as she will be running for president in 4-8 years (and likely win).
It seems only fitting the “most insignificant office ever contrived” would be tasked with presiding over the least representative and most superfluous half of the Legislative Branch.
And I can think of no blander, less imaginative or more milquetoast an occupant than Kamala “The Good Roads President” Harris. She truly is Wonder Bread in human form.
What is it with The Repulsican Crime Cult? THE ORANGE MENACE is better than…a cement block?… a thunderstorm without an umbrella?…thinking for yourself? Wake up America!
Don’t forget that back then, the Veep was the man who placed second in the electoral college, so more of an opponent than team member. No wonder the President tended to push him to the back. Nowadays, it’s more common that the vice presidential candidate plays the bad cop leaving the presidential candidate to play the mediator (reversed by Trump/Penis during the 2016 campaign). And, once elected, tends to have less public jobs to do.
John was too, too right, but the system has changed since then, and evolved in addition. Not always wholesomely—under Bush and Cheney, it was often unclear who was actually the chief executive (how Cheney got the job is revealing, too, but for another time). Biden seems to have been a genuine “second in command” type, busy about the People’s Business, and not just sitting around waiting for the president to die.
Brian Carroll creator almost 4 years ago
Remember, we’re still socially distancing. Even in the comic.
Zev almost 4 years ago
A Harris-Pence debate should be entertaining.
P51Strega almost 4 years ago
Not fair comparing Adam’s post to the modern VP position. Adams was the opposing presidential candidate, so one would expect the president to be wary of delegating any tasks. Modern VPs are from the presidents party and (presumably) share the same platform. I also see Harris as being groomed for the top spot in 2024.
PraiseofFolly almost 4 years ago
Too bad the U.S Vice President is seen as the “donut” spare tire. Certainly, that is true of most recent Republican Vice Presidents: Agnew, Rockefeller, Quayle, Cheney, potentially Palin (!!!), Pence. All except Bush. The Vice President is not a toy / No, my boy — not a toy.
Masterskrain almost 4 years ago
Will “Mother” allow Preacher Pence to be on the same stage with “gasp” ANOTHER WOMAN during the V.P. Debates???
GaryCooper almost 4 years ago
That was fast.
Cheapskate0 almost 4 years ago
Re: P51Strega above: VP was opposing presidential candidate.
One of a handful of things in the sausage that is our Constitution that did not make sense.
Recap: Your VP was the man who was dead set against everything you stood for as you ran for office. Where’s the synergy in that?
Add to that: An Electoral College to select the president. In its day it might have made sense, but today, first by tradition, now by Supreme Court decision, merely a rubber stamp gerrymander (as in, how dare a delegate to the EC vote his conscience).
While we’re at it – why a “state” has more importance that people within that “state” – from the county that is Rhode Island to the vast expanse of Wyoming, with less population than the city of Denver, let alone Cook County, Illinois.
To the rights of a “well-regulated” militia, a militia that was never defined, that ended up being the religion of gun ownership that has defied any attempt to reign in gun violence. (And don’t use Chicago as an example of “failed” gun laws – the only failure there is Chicago’s border with not one but two states that make it easy to shuttle around Chicago’s gun laws – thanks to no national gun regulation policy)
I could go on and on and on. But I think I’ll stop here for now.
evanmarhews almost 4 years ago
wait Rd Brian. you’ll be eating crow !!
Fido (aka Felix Rex) Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Adams, fine. I prefer John Nance Garner’s definition of the office. (And the non-PG13 version, thankyouverymuch).
FWIT & Full Disclosure: VP Garner was a second cousin to my great grandfather
Radish the wordsmith almost 4 years ago
I expect Harris will be a very active vice president who will prosecute the Trump crimes with vigor.
Madzdad the bard almost 4 years ago
I doubt Harris will be sidelined as VP. I believe she will be actively engaged as much as possible as she will be running for president in 4-8 years (and likely win).
Pipe Tobacco Premium Member almost 4 years ago
Although I truly would have MUCH preferred Susan Rice as VP, I am hoping the Biden-Harris ticket can win in November! Please.
Andrew Sleeth almost 4 years ago
It seems only fitting the “most insignificant office ever contrived” would be tasked with presiding over the least representative and most superfluous half of the Legislative Branch.
And I can think of no blander, less imaginative or more milquetoast an occupant than Kamala “The Good Roads President” Harris. She truly is Wonder Bread in human form.
Jelliqal almost 4 years ago
In Adams period- Vice president was the runner up – The president’s opponent and not their team mate
cmxx almost 4 years ago
But Ms. Harris wasn’t the nation’s first vice president.
kentmarx36 almost 4 years ago
What is it with The Repulsican Crime Cult? THE ORANGE MENACE is better than…a cement block?… a thunderstorm without an umbrella?…thinking for yourself? Wake up America!
Godfreydaniel almost 4 years ago
I was hoping that Biden could get his duckworths in a row…..
DrDon1 almost 4 years ago
Please, a cartoon more relevant to the 21st Century!
Kip W almost 4 years ago
Well, if I’m the one to do it, they’ll run their quill pens through it
I’m obnoxious and disliked, you know it’s so…
Concretionist almost 4 years ago
Don’t forget that back then, the Veep was the man who placed second in the electoral college, so more of an opponent than team member. No wonder the President tended to push him to the back. Nowadays, it’s more common that the vice presidential candidate plays the bad cop leaving the presidential candidate to play the mediator (reversed by Trump/Penis during the 2016 campaign). And, once elected, tends to have less public jobs to do.
AndrewSihler almost 4 years ago
John was too, too right, but the system has changed since then, and evolved in addition. Not always wholesomely—under Bush and Cheney, it was often unclear who was actually the chief executive (how Cheney got the job is revealing, too, but for another time). Biden seems to have been a genuine “second in command” type, busy about the People’s Business, and not just sitting around waiting for the president to die.