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Thatâs in fact one of the major dualities around the great British 70s sitcom âMind Your Languageâ.
It focuses on an ESL class taught by Jeremy Brown (Barry Evans), full of minorities, all of whom have their issues and accents with learning the language, played up for comic effect.
The BBC canned the show after three seasons fearing racial backlash from the countries and communities mentionedâŠ
âŠwhich, ironically, turned outâŠ
âŠto be its biggest fans! And even today they still want more!
Why? Because the âstereotypesâ reflected their memories of the old country and harmonized with their experiences in the new one! (As they still do, and you need to be an ESL teacher â like my college âtwin sisterâ, now living and teaching in Orleans â to get this)
So maybe while Marlo Thomas and John Ritter have suffered the passage of timeâŠ
âŠBarry Evans, Albert Moses, Francoise Pascal and George Camiller will weather through.
(For more on cultural differences between the old and the new, watch âBob Hearts Abisholaâ)
Whoa. Iâm pretty sure that laying that on a kid is bad parenting. Though if I recall correctly (not quite 70 years later), I pretty much figured that all adults were too lame to pay attention to, unless there was a potential for punishment or foodâŠ
I was pondering this topic earlier. Like we will ban song of the South or F-Troop or part of Dumbo but Hoganâs Heroes is still on nd we ll still love âA Christmas Storyâ
Thatâs for sure. I didnât know the LGBTQA+ group didnât exist until years later since they werenât blatant with it in the kids shows I watched. It wasnât until Modern Family that I was shown that they form family units
Iâve read a lot of â40s comic booksâitâs weird how one can be nostalgic about an era that ended before one was bornâand WOW Iâve seen things. âIt was a different time,â indeed. But I understand (and, to a degree, accept) that, without condoning or making excuses for the truly deplorable stuff. And it wasnât all awful; even in wartime Batman or the Justice Society would park the jingoism for a brief moment and celebrate American diversity.
But this is also true of some of my favorite British TV comedies from years past. The Young Ones or Father Ted would get âriskyâ while making fun of racism, but Monty Pythonâs Flying Circus and Fawlty Towers would occasionally be straight-up racist. (And thereâs MY ultimate heartbreakerâseeing that John Cleese has aged over recent years into just another hypocritical reactionary bigot, and realizing that even back then he was probably the source of the uglier stuff in the aforementioned shows.)
So if MGM wants to tack a disclaimer to the beginning of Gone With The Wind, or Disney wants to keep Song of the South locked in the vault, or Warners doesnât want to release certain cartoons because of blatantly bigoted content, thatâs fine by me. Itâs theirs to do with as they pleaseâand I know the ones bawling âcensorshipâ the loudest are simply angry that society is growing up and they donât want to come with.
When I see this sort of thing come up, I always ask who it is that is really offended by whatever perceived slight is being made. The problem is that while some slights have been legitimately identified as being offensive to the people that are being slighted, others are simply the result of where a slight is imagined and is called out not by those that are slighted but by those that perceive some possible situation that, in the end, doesnât exist. Too often, especially these days, some cry-bully will kvetch about some word or other that they believe has an offensive meaning and insist we do not use it. The most recent example I came across was the word âboobâ. Somebody got really upset when they heard it. (My response was to enquire if they had ever seen The Beatles in Yellow Submarine, in particular the scenes featuring Jeremy Hillary Boob Phd.)
As an example of how any common truth can turn out to be misguided with more knowledge, I like to mention to those particularly militant, self righteous, in your face vegans that some scientists just recently discovered plants make a tiny scream-like noise only when damaged or harvested. Plus, that whole hectares-wide mushroom/forest tree communication thingâŠ.. just pointing out in this sinful world there is no such thing as a cruelty-free lunch. yeah, Iâm not proud, but it is a satisfying guilty takedown. hereâs a link https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-record-stressed-out-plants-emitting-ultrasonic-squeals-180973716/
The Flintstones existed in a time when commercials werenât kept separate from the shows, and they had commercials for cigarettes embedded in the show (along with incredibly sexist tropes).
Itâs also that as a child some of that stuff would go over your head no matter what decade it is. We didnât notice it because of what she explained but also because wellâŠwe were kids! lol
Since this comic addresses modern issues, I, myself, will address a modern issue: The word âhomophobicâ is used too much. By extension, âtransphobic,â as well as many other words that describe phobias against the LGBTQ, are also used too much. Way too much.
Iâll say right here right now that I disagree with everything the LGBTQ believes and stands for. As a practicing Catholic, the actions of the LGBTQ impose spiritual and moral law, ultimately contradicting Godâs holy plan. Rather than stopping to think about if their desires are physically, morally, and spiritually, they simply dive deeper.
Aside from the obvious boldness of my argument, did you notice anything else? I didnât say I hated anyone associated with the LGBTQ, nor do I hate allies, homosexuals, etc. I have plenty of friends who support that community. I make it clear that my beliefs are much different in a civil and friendly manner.
Getting back to the topical word, âhomophobicâ is a term that, in most cases, people would use to describe me. To be a homophobe is to hate or fear someone for being homosexual or having homosexual tendencies. Thatâs a basic form of the definition. Now, people often use it as a means of defining someone who disagrees with homosexuality.
What about âtheophobic?â To be a theophobe is to hate or fear someone for being religious. There are plenty of theophobic people in the world who openly proclaim their hatred of religion and people of religion, especially Judaism, Christianity, and Catholicism. Do they get called out? Yes, but only when itâs convenient.
Thereâs a call to hatred in this world, and so many people are letting themselves get riled up, doing all sorts of things to prove their points. Stemming from ridicule and sometimes, unfortunately, going as far as genocidal. They do what makes them feel good for the moment, whatever gets their dopamine levels maxed out, rather than whatâll help them and others in the long-run.
So, then, rather than getting made with each other and ripping each other to bits, letâs slow down, take a look at what happened yesterday, find out what went wrong, and fix it today. Rather than labeling everyone who disagrees with you as one big clot of you-a-phobia, shut up, get out of your head, and talk.
Itâs not a nice message, I know, and thatâs the way it should be. Everyoneâs too nice nowadays, and I, myself, have been guilty of this on many occasions. Niceness is letting a problem explode because youâre afraid of receiving ridicule for doing the right thing. Kindness is defusing a problem knowing that youâll receive ridicule, but will help someone along the way in doing so.
Iâm not someone who believes in the whole âcoexistâ movement. Itâs the tolerance of all belief systems. Not all beliefs systems are tolerable. However, I believe in tolerating people, and even more than that, helping them get on the right path. As a Catholic, it is my duty to spread the Faith to as many people as I can. Not everyone is going to agree with me, but that doesnât mean I canât treat them like people. That doesnât mean I canât help them in their darkest and hardest times, and do my very best to comfort them.
As I said, I have many friends who support or are allied with the LGBTQ, and I love them all very much. Yes, I acknowledge that Iâm being preachy here, but I needed to get this across. Donât look at people who disagree with you as the slime of the earth. Look at them as potential new friends whom you can help, and vise versa. Donât label them as mere âhomophobes,â âtransphobes,â âtheophobes,â what have you. Every good man can become just as evil, and every evil man can become just as good.
Averagemoe over 4 years ago
Well, acceptance is increasing. Maybe someday, unicorns will be able to show themselves to humans without the Shield of Boringness.
RuinQueenofOblivion over 4 years ago
Really not narrowing it down⊠wow we watched some messed up stuff when we were younger.
codycab over 4 years ago
âIt was a different timeâ applies to a lot of things. Mostly Disney movies where some characters smoked.
Michael Thorton over 4 years ago
Thatâs in fact one of the major dualities around the great British 70s sitcom âMind Your Languageâ.
It focuses on an ESL class taught by Jeremy Brown (Barry Evans), full of minorities, all of whom have their issues and accents with learning the language, played up for comic effect.
The BBC canned the show after three seasons fearing racial backlash from the countries and communities mentionedâŠ
âŠwhich, ironically, turned outâŠ
âŠto be its biggest fans! And even today they still want more!
Why? Because the âstereotypesâ reflected their memories of the old country and harmonized with their experiences in the new one! (As they still do, and you need to be an ESL teacher â like my college âtwin sisterâ, now living and teaching in Orleans â to get this)
So maybe while Marlo Thomas and John Ritter have suffered the passage of timeâŠ
âŠBarry Evans, Albert Moses, Francoise Pascal and George Camiller will weather through.
(For more on cultural differences between the old and the new, watch âBob Hearts Abisholaâ)
Concretionist over 4 years ago
Whoa. Iâm pretty sure that laying that on a kid is bad parenting. Though if I recall correctly (not quite 70 years later), I pretty much figured that all adults were too lame to pay attention to, unless there was a potential for punishment or foodâŠ
kaykeyser over 4 years ago
I was pondering this topic earlier. Like we will ban song of the South or F-Troop or part of Dumbo but Hoganâs Heroes is still on nd we ll still love âA Christmas Storyâ
Pedmar Premium Member over 4 years ago
A couple years ago I tried to watch an episode of ALF. All I could think was, âI canât believe this was one of my favorite shows in the 80s!â
sallyseckman over 4 years ago
Thatâs for sure. I didnât know the LGBTQA+ group didnât exist until years later since they werenât blatant with it in the kids shows I watched. It wasnât until Modern Family that I was shown that they form family units
Monster Hesh over 4 years ago
Iâve read a lot of â40s comic booksâitâs weird how one can be nostalgic about an era that ended before one was bornâand WOW Iâve seen things. âIt was a different time,â indeed. But I understand (and, to a degree, accept) that, without condoning or making excuses for the truly deplorable stuff. And it wasnât all awful; even in wartime Batman or the Justice Society would park the jingoism for a brief moment and celebrate American diversity.
But this is also true of some of my favorite British TV comedies from years past. The Young Ones or Father Ted would get âriskyâ while making fun of racism, but Monty Pythonâs Flying Circus and Fawlty Towers would occasionally be straight-up racist. (And thereâs MY ultimate heartbreakerâseeing that John Cleese has aged over recent years into just another hypocritical reactionary bigot, and realizing that even back then he was probably the source of the uglier stuff in the aforementioned shows.)
So if MGM wants to tack a disclaimer to the beginning of Gone With The Wind, or Disney wants to keep Song of the South locked in the vault, or Warners doesnât want to release certain cartoons because of blatantly bigoted content, thatâs fine by me. Itâs theirs to do with as they pleaseâand I know the ones bawling âcensorshipâ the loudest are simply angry that society is growing up and they donât want to come with.
Billavi Premium Member over 4 years ago
Itâs cyclical. The kids of today will be horrified at how offensive the entertainment of their children will be.
Brass Orchid Premium Member over 4 years ago
For tomorrow, your judginess will weigh you like a millstone.
StoicLion1973 over 4 years ago
Or, many people today are overly sensitive scolds incapable of seeing the humor in things from times past.
Neo Stryder over 4 years ago
The show business now is worst than in the previous century.
Happy, happy, happy!!! Premium Member over 4 years ago
I really like mom.
mistie710 over 4 years ago
When I see this sort of thing come up, I always ask who it is that is really offended by whatever perceived slight is being made. The problem is that while some slights have been legitimately identified as being offensive to the people that are being slighted, others are simply the result of where a slight is imagined and is called out not by those that are slighted but by those that perceive some possible situation that, in the end, doesnât exist. Too often, especially these days, some cry-bully will kvetch about some word or other that they believe has an offensive meaning and insist we do not use it. The most recent example I came across was the word âboobâ. Somebody got really upset when they heard it. (My response was to enquire if they had ever seen The Beatles in Yellow Submarine, in particular the scenes featuring Jeremy Hillary Boob Phd.)
Lucky loo over 4 years ago
This is starting to get boring
prairiedogdance Premium Member over 4 years ago
As an example of how any common truth can turn out to be misguided with more knowledge, I like to mention to those particularly militant, self righteous, in your face vegans that some scientists just recently discovered plants make a tiny scream-like noise only when damaged or harvested. Plus, that whole hectares-wide mushroom/forest tree communication thingâŠ.. just pointing out in this sinful world there is no such thing as a cruelty-free lunch. yeah, Iâm not proud, but it is a satisfying guilty takedown. hereâs a link https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-record-stressed-out-plants-emitting-ultrasonic-squeals-180973716/
Aladar30 Premium Member over 4 years ago
Probably the best advice ever!
Major Matt Mason Premium Member over 4 years ago
Preachiness, however, is eternal.
SociallyAwkwardDashite over 4 years ago
At least the 90âs showed some progress. Shows like Friends and Gilmore Girls tried to rectify some of the male domination.
Better than Dion releasing a song in the early 60âs thatâs casually misogynistic (though The Wanderer still kind of slaps).
TheBetterYouTuberNamedLogan over 4 years ago
What if thereâs a story arc where Phoebe & Marigold use magic to travel to the future and they meet âAdult Phoebeâ?!
InquireWithin over 4 years ago
The Flintstones existed in a time when commercials werenât kept separate from the shows, and they had commercials for cigarettes embedded in the show (along with incredibly sexist tropes).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c
Nicole â« â±âż ââżââżâ°â« Premium Member over 4 years ago
Itâs also that as a child some of that stuff would go over your head no matter what decade it is. We didnât notice it because of what she explained but also because wellâŠwe were kids! lol
MAGA Premium Member over 4 years ago
In other words: the powers that be decided everything is offensive. So the alphabet group gets their collective panties in a wad over notheing.
C: almost 3 years ago
Just LOOK at her dadâs expression while her mom was saying âGO MY CHILD! Luxuriate in your blessful ignorance!â
jerrica.benton333 over 1 year ago
they must be watching the dana carvey show
Joseph comicinthestrip 4 months ago
Since this comic addresses modern issues, I, myself, will address a modern issue: The word âhomophobicâ is used too much. By extension, âtransphobic,â as well as many other words that describe phobias against the LGBTQ, are also used too much. Way too much.
Iâll say right here right now that I disagree with everything the LGBTQ believes and stands for. As a practicing Catholic, the actions of the LGBTQ impose spiritual and moral law, ultimately contradicting Godâs holy plan. Rather than stopping to think about if their desires are physically, morally, and spiritually, they simply dive deeper.
Aside from the obvious boldness of my argument, did you notice anything else? I didnât say I hated anyone associated with the LGBTQ, nor do I hate allies, homosexuals, etc. I have plenty of friends who support that community. I make it clear that my beliefs are much different in a civil and friendly manner.
Getting back to the topical word, âhomophobicâ is a term that, in most cases, people would use to describe me. To be a homophobe is to hate or fear someone for being homosexual or having homosexual tendencies. Thatâs a basic form of the definition. Now, people often use it as a means of defining someone who disagrees with homosexuality.
What about âtheophobic?â To be a theophobe is to hate or fear someone for being religious. There are plenty of theophobic people in the world who openly proclaim their hatred of religion and people of religion, especially Judaism, Christianity, and Catholicism. Do they get called out? Yes, but only when itâs convenient.
Thereâs a call to hatred in this world, and so many people are letting themselves get riled up, doing all sorts of things to prove their points. Stemming from ridicule and sometimes, unfortunately, going as far as genocidal. They do what makes them feel good for the moment, whatever gets their dopamine levels maxed out, rather than whatâll help them and others in the long-run.
Joseph comicinthestrip 4 months ago
So, then, rather than getting made with each other and ripping each other to bits, letâs slow down, take a look at what happened yesterday, find out what went wrong, and fix it today. Rather than labeling everyone who disagrees with you as one big clot of you-a-phobia, shut up, get out of your head, and talk.
Itâs not a nice message, I know, and thatâs the way it should be. Everyoneâs too nice nowadays, and I, myself, have been guilty of this on many occasions. Niceness is letting a problem explode because youâre afraid of receiving ridicule for doing the right thing. Kindness is defusing a problem knowing that youâll receive ridicule, but will help someone along the way in doing so.
Iâm not someone who believes in the whole âcoexistâ movement. Itâs the tolerance of all belief systems. Not all beliefs systems are tolerable. However, I believe in tolerating people, and even more than that, helping them get on the right path. As a Catholic, it is my duty to spread the Faith to as many people as I can. Not everyone is going to agree with me, but that doesnât mean I canât treat them like people. That doesnât mean I canât help them in their darkest and hardest times, and do my very best to comfort them.
As I said, I have many friends who support or are allied with the LGBTQ, and I love them all very much. Yes, I acknowledge that Iâm being preachy here, but I needed to get this across. Donât look at people who disagree with you as the slime of the earth. Look at them as potential new friends whom you can help, and vise versa. Donât label them as mere âhomophobes,â âtransphobes,â âtheophobes,â what have you. Every good man can become just as evil, and every evil man can become just as good.
So, then, who will you be?